The Ways and the speed difference

[FallingBullets]

yeah, read EotW again. noticed that they made a point of the speed difference between the outside and the inside. so I was just wondering:

 

A length of rope (twice as long as half its length :D) is outside a waygate. just on the floor, nothing special, just normal rope. One end is taken through the way gate and then the rest is pulled into the ways. what would happen????

 

cause if you think about it. time in the ways is faster? so the speed in the ways is faster than the speed outside the ways, so then the speed outside the ways would have to be increased to compensate.

 

Say the ways is twice as fast as outside, or the outside is 1/2 as fast as the ways. so the relative speed is also doubled. so the speed of something inside the ways would be twice the speed outside.

 

The rope being pulled at 1 m/s inside would appear to be travelling at 2m/s outside the ways, so it would be pulled into the ways at 2 m/s. but wait... that would mean that it would be appearing in the ways at 2 m/s would it not? ARGH!!! *brain explodes*

 

FB

[Luckers]

There is a dilation effect in the event horizon of the waygate--that watery, slowing feeling.

 

Time on both sides remains constant. Incidently, functionally mass is effected by time, and as such the variance is not irregular--same basis as Einstein's theory of relativity. Althought we don't know the math for this.

[Thorum]

You should really read Einstein. It is a true-world explanation of a similar phenomenon. No fantasy. (You can find an online text here)

[FallingBullets]

i have read it :) an Alevel in physics and an interest besides ;)

 

So when they say that it looks a different speed, it isnt, its just them percieving it. kk thanks :)

 

FB

[Thorum]

speed means nothing.

 

Let me say it differently. Distance and time are the same (in fantasy, you can disregard the energy. Ever seen Frodo going to take a pee?), so speed means nothing.

 

The extra meter comes from converted energy.

[FallingBullets]

what meter? I guess I dont get you still...

[ROB_88]

i wonder, if you saty in the ways for lets say a week just for fun, will there have gone a week outside aswell or just a day or two?

[lt;(^-^)gt;]

i wonder, if you saty in the ways for lets say a week just for fun, will there have gone a week outside as well or just a day or two?

Enter the gate on the 1st of the month.  Spend a "week" (from your POV).  Exit the waygate at the same location and it is only the 3rd or 4th.  Of course the actual time-saving factor is unknown.

 

The way the Ways are described I think the rope would not have a problem.  I believe that as you pulled the rope through the gate it would become slack.  In other words the perceived length of the rope would change depending on what side of the gate you are on.  However, all other perceived distances are also affected in the same way, so no one notices the difference.

[Kaznen]

I think the ways are like hyper-space, the back door through space and time.  So when you travel via waygate from one place to another you're moving through the space between spaces.

 

And while you appear to travel distance in less time then you could by conventional means you experence the full time while traveling.

 

Remember RJ had a degree in Physics.

[mb]

The Ways I think is an alternate dimension.

Like the other dimensions in this series, it gives a different perception of distance and/or of time.