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During the fighting between Rand's forces and the Seanchan, Rand and all of the asha'man notice that Saidin is acting very strangely, almost like it is eager. Was it ever explained as to why Saidin was weird in that area?

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It was caused by overuse of the Bowl of the Winds. The Bowl had been designed to manipulate only a small area of weather, but Elayne and the Sea Folk pushed it to alter the entire worlds weather, thus overstraining it. The result was the One Power wierdness around Ebou Dar (and it effected both saidin and saidar).

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When Elayne fled the Seanchan and let go of the gateway that was unraveling between Ebou Dar and Andor, it exploded. This explosion somehow caused it; the closer to ground zero of the explosion, the more "eager" Saidin got. The how or the why, i really don't know. It was given so much signigance at the time, maybe it will be part of the answer to seal away the DO- more likely it is just a red herring.

 

EDIT: It may have been what was done with the Bowl. The text doesn't really say which event did it. I just thought it was the explosion. I never even tought of the Bowl till now.

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Oh yeah, I totally forgot about the bowl. Well, mostly I forgot that it used saidin when it was used. xD Thanks for the quick response guys.

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No, the explosion of the gateway had nothing to do with it. Saidar was already strange before Elayne wove the gateway, and there was no strangeness in Andor. Besides the gateway utilized no saidin, so how would it effect saidin? The Bowl did however.

 

And besides, RJ said so at a post WH signing. He added, in case int interests anyone, that there would have been a lesser wierdness experienced along the lines of the weave that extended out from Ebou Dar too.

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The explosion itself was caused by using the bowl, since Saidar was also affected, and that is why Elayne lost control of the threads while unraveling the gateway. She describes how the threads feels weird.

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The explosion itself was caused by using the bowl, since Saidar was also affected, and that is why Elayne lost control of the threads while unraveling the gateway. She describes how the threads feels weird.

 

Aviendah said that the threads would grow slick with time.  I assumed that Elayne lost control because she waited so long after pulling the first thread, and that she took so long to actually do it.

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Also, it was Elayne's first attempt at unraveling a weave.  Unraveling a weave is, as Luckers said, an insanely hard skill to master.  Aviendha spoke of being giving a simple knot of Air for her first task.  Essentially, Elayne dived into the deep end before she learned to swim.

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The explosion itself was caused by using the bowl, since Saidar was also affected, and that is why Elayne lost control of the threads while unraveling the gateway. She describes how the threads feels weird.

 

I'd tend to disagree with this, as no one else experienced anything strange with Saidar at that point.  It did what she wanted it to do to create the gateway, and exactly what Ahvi explained to her would happen when she began picking it apart.  All indications at that point suggest that it was her inexperience to perform the task at hand.  As was stated, it's extremely hard to pick a weave apart.

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If you read that scene carefully, you will find that Elayne still had control of the half picked apart weave.  The explosion came because the Damane that came through the gateway cut her off from the source.  Aviendha saw it coming and that is why she leaped from her horse and pulled Elayne off of hers.  She was maintaining the Gateway up til then, which is why Birgette put her on her horse backwards.

 

And Elayne DID notice the strangeness of Saidar.  The weave almost didn't form, and then snapped into place.  Elayne thought it was because she was exhausted.  Well, she had no reason to think otherwise.

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I'd tend to disagree with this, as no one else experienced anything strange with Saidar at that point.  It did what she wanted it to do to create the gateway, and exactly what Ahvi explained to her would happen when she began picking it apart.  All indications at that point suggest that it was her inexperience to perform the task at hand.  As was stated, it's extremely hard to pick a weave apart.

 

Well no, Maj is correct in that the One Power wierdness was experienced immediately after the use of the bowl and before the weaving of the gateway--Elayne is in fact the first to describe the sensation of the weaves not wanting to fit, and then suddenly snapping into place, but even before that the women described saidar as being eager, almost as if they could pluck it from the air.

 

But still, why would the one power wierdness effect Elayne in Andor? Given that she was tired, and that unravelling is so hard--and almost impossible during your first tries even with simple weaves--then I'd say we have more than enough reason for it to have happened.

 

Still, its possible.

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It wasn't the threads, it was the One Power itself. Around Ebou Dar it was quivering, but Elayne wasn't in Ebou Dar. No quivering.

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And Elayne DID notice the strangeness of Saidar.  The weave almost didn't form, and then snapped into place.  Elayne thought it was because she was exhausted.  Well, she had no reason to think otherwise.

 

Right, but that was the actual forming of the gateway, in Altara.  As Luckers pointed out, Elayne was unraveling the gateway from Andor.  She didn't notice any weirdness there.

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