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Rand's Early Channelling


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Fain is too evil to survive

 

DOn't be too sure: something akin to the Breaking will have to happen to go to the next Age. With only good guys left that looks hard to me. We don't wanna end up with "only" another Hundred Years War

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The wound from Fains dagger was infected by its evil, and that evil struggled against the evil of the Ishamael wound. Both evils countered each other to a point, fighting each other and so not infecting Rand as much as they would otherwise.

 

And thinking about the Rand Traveling and Fain following him thing, Fain gets about by gateways. Rand Travels wherever he wants, whereas Fai is limited to so many locations, and by the time he gets there Rand could have Travelled somewhere else already.

 

A lot of people think Fains role in Tarmon Gaidon will be like Gholams in Lord of the Rings. Not me

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Fain is too evil to survive
So is there a scale of evil to determine that? A picture of Stalin and a note saying "must be less evil than this to survive the story"?

 

I don't remember, but why didn't Rand die from his cut, was it because he cut right on top the wound Ishy gave him? The power of the dagger acts quickly so Rand should of been dead before getting anywhere near the city.
Cadsuane attempted Healing. This buys time for Samitsu to try Healing (she is the best AS Healer). Then Flinn has a go a bit later.
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Fain is too evil to survive
So is there a scale of evil to determine that? A picture of Stalin and a note saying "must be less evil than this to survive the story"?

 

I don't remember, but why didn't Rand die from his cut, was it because he cut right on top the wound Ishy gave him? The power of the dagger acts quickly so Rand should of been dead before getting anywhere near the city.
Cadsuane attempted Healing. This buys time for Samitsu to try Healing (she is the best AS Healer). Then Flinn has a go a bit later.

 

I seriously laughed out loud on that one!

 

But a cut from that blade works quicly, and I don't know if someone that knows HEaling that stood right besides him could have saved him.

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But a cut from that blade works quickly, and I don't know if someone that knows Healing that stood right besides him could have saved him.
Someone that knew Healing was standing right beside him. She wasn't very good at it, but she bought time for Samitsu to try, who bought time for Flinn to stabilise him.

 

But I will tell you this. I think if I had been one moment slower, perhaps if you had not tried first, he would be dead now.
Close run thing. You're right, it does work fast. In this case, not quite fast enough.
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Considering how Fain is can you really see him just hiding till after the last battle?  I see him biding his time and striking when Rand is occupied during the fight. Plus he has way too many enemies, Rand, Forsaken, Luc, etc....

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Trying to predict Fain is impossible. He is literally in the books as a symbol for chaos. He is randomness, a force of neither the good guys or the bad, for all that he's probably worse than even most of the Forsaken.

 

Myself, I could see him doing anything from killing Forsaken, to killing one of the ta'veren. Some people even suggested he might replace the Dark One in the next Age--like, Rand kills the Dark One and Fain replaces him, becoming the Dark One for the next turning of the Wheel. Others have suggested that he will kill the Dark One himself, as well as Rand.

 

I never held with any of that, but there is nothing we can use to predict him.

Guest Dreadlord
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I can see Fain hiding from the ammount of channelers Rand will have with him near the end. Saying that, I want Fain to kill someone high up on the good side. If he killed...oh I dont know, lets say Faile, I would be happy.

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Or maybe if he killed Min.  Can't shake the feeling she will die.  Think he knows he can't beat Rand in a direct one on one fight, so most likely he will jump from the shadows at him.

 

 

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Or maybe if he killed Min.  Can't shake the feeling she will die.  Think he knows he can't beat Rand in a direct one on one fight, so most likely he will jump from the shadows at him.

 

Well, that is Fain's modus operandi.  He works from the shadows, turning people against Rand and ambushing Rand when he can.

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That was never one of my theories, so if you want full details you'd have to look it up. As far as I recall though, people suggested that Fain's growing powers and evil nature seemed akin to the chaotic nature of the Dark One, and that the Dark One would indeed be killed by Rand, during which in a gollum like moment Fain would fall into the bore to become the next Dark One.

 

It always seemed a fairly silly theory to me, but there are all sorts out there, and thats the point. Fain is so unknowable, so unpredictable that RJ could virtually intend anything for him.

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Laaaaaaal, that is silly, but you never know what RJ intended with Fain, until we get our hands on that last book. I am so looking forward to getting AMoL!!

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