Good vs. Not so Good- Newbie Mafia

[Minuet]

You tease! I thought you were going to make our job easy here.

[False Dragon]

Would you believe him if he named names?

[Kryos]

Honestly, I'd then know who would likely be people not to view so it would've been nice. lol

[SBoydW]

1.Kryos

2.Sorandha

3.Dark Justice

4.Tigara

5.Thorum

6.Gryphan_Crymsonstarr

7.bcxanth

8.Mirlishea

9.ilgross

10.False Dragon

11.Minuet

12.Loreina

 

When the sun rises Mirlishea, the innocent, is found flattened by a steam roller.

 

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

[ilgross]

So unless Kyros found a guilty last night (in which case it is obvious what we do)

 

We have six alive.

 

1 is Kyros the Cop

1 is the healer who Kyros can vouch for.

 

Now Kyros must of investigated 2 other people over the last 3 nights.

 

If they are both still alive, that means we have 2 other innocents

 

Which means we have 4 innocents + 2 mafia, and it should be game over for the scum.

 

If 1 is still alive

 

We have 3 known innocents + 2 out of three mafia

 

If none are still alive we have 2 known innocents one of which is secret. And should stay that way.

 

Without naming names, can Kyros tell us what he knows?

[Kryos]

Well, let's see, got my info back, person I viewed is innocent. I kind of fibbed when I said I viewed the healer, the first night Loriena was who I viewed, but I have a huge suspicion of who the healer is so that person would be left out of any of my thoughts I suppose. If I'm wrong about that suspicion, then we have a problem. I suppose I should be thankful, almost viewed Mirlishea last night, that would've really sucked, at least over the night, two names got knocked off the list as opposed to just one. Either way, this can pretty much be our final day to attempt to get a mafia. Since the mafia already know what is what, we have a 50% chance going with my hunch. But I won't ask everyone to blindly follow suit on this one.

 

[glow=red,2,300]Minuet[/glow]

 

It's a chance in the dark, and I am so hoping that it is the right thing to do. I apologize for not finding an evil and being able to just come outright and say we have our evil found.

[Kryos]

If anyone else has any other thoughts, by all means, let me know what you think. It's 5am, I'm going to go lay down, I'll be back later and fully go over everything and possibly change my thought.

[Mirlishea]

Ouch! *slides smoothly away* LOL

It was fun! Good luck everyone!  :D

[ilgross]

[glow=red,2,300]Mirlishea[/glow] I believe just admitted her guilt without fully reading Kyros's message.

 

BTW Is there a godfather in this mafia?

[False Dragon]

Mirlishea was just NK'd, ilgross...

[ilgross]

I am an idiot. Forget my last post.

 

[glow=red,2,300]unvote[/glow]

[Kryos]

Tsk tsk tsk. What are we going to do with you Ilgross?

[Dark Justice]

Ill just go with you Kryos, and vote[glow=red,2,300]minuett[/glow]

 

If we dont get an evil now, we are pretty much done for.

 

And Ilgross. That was just weird...

[Kryos]

Yeah, ilgross can be like that. I've grown used to it.

[False Dragon]

Kryos, I've read your post where you voted Min, but I can't find where you told us who the person you viewed last night was.  Loriena was Night One (Not the Finder apparently from what you said), Thorum Night Two.  Who was Night Three?

[ilgross]

Is there a mafia god father?

[Kryos]

I'm sorry False, I am not going to divulge the information of whom I viewed. If people try to vote for that person, I'll let it be known. If we get a mafia today and go into the following day, I do not want them to know who I viewed in case I get another innocent viewed, that way there is a chance the process of elimination makes it that much easier for us.

[SBoydW]

No.  This game only includes the basic roles.

[False Dragon]

That makes sense.  I would like to know who else is on my side, but I see your point.

 

I'm reluctant to vote Min as of now though.  We can't go by randomness this late, especially in this situation!  We can't afford it!

 

We have to use our brains and not follow blindly, not even the Finder.  We have to think for ourselves and use logic.

 

Voting for Min or anyone just because the Finder is voting for them (with not even the slightest suggestion that she has been suspicious I might add) is not logical nor a good reason.  C'mon.  Let's play the game how it is supposed to be played.

 

I don't mean to call Kryos a liar or anything, he did say that he is not asking anyone to follow him blindly, which is exactly what we shouldn't do.  I'm just scared that people are just following like sheep.  It's happened in nearly every game I've read.

 

If this is offensive in any way, I apologize, but I think you all need to realize that maybe the reason the innocents keep losing is because the innocents are following people who have convincing arguments.

 

"The greatest lie is found in truth."  This isn't the exact quote, but it's close enough.  Just keep that in mind.

 

Now, I'm going to do a re-read and try to find anything that I can.  I'll probably do a casing of everyone when I'm done.  I invite you all to do the same.  My views are not the same as the rest of you.  And I also invite someone to case me as well.  Good to know what others think of your actions (or in-actions in some cases).

 

Alright.  That ends my little rant.  Let the re-read begin!

[False Dragon]

I'm too tired to write it all up.  I have notes, but you'll all just have to wait until tomorrow.  G'night.

[Kryos]

Night FD, I look forward to reading your notes when you have them.

[ilgross]

Lets look at who Thorum votes for:

 

Day 1: Gryphn, Tigara

 

Then after Thorums changes to Tig, 3 others False Dragon, Dark Justice and me all change their votes

 

Tig Claims healer.

 

People following Thorum on the Kyros lynch:

FD, bcxanth, Loreina, Thorum, Dark, Gryphan

 

People who didn't unvote after a told them to:

FD, Thorum, Dark, Mirlishea, Gryphan

 

(maybe off-line, maybe pretending not to be there)

 

I am going to vote for [glow=red,2,300]Gryphan[/glow]

 

 

 

 

 

[Kryos]

Ilgross, I had a nasty idea, no matter what, two days are all we have left. I want to see how this works. Everyone claim their role. I know one other person and will know if they are telling the truth, and I'm sure only one will claim doc and that will be the real doc, and anyone who refuses will most likely be mafia. If you are innocent, you have nothing to lose but a lot to gain. We have but two days left, the only way to go.

 

I am the Finder as we all know.

[Kryos]

And remember, only one night left, so even if the doc claims as some may be worried about, at worst he'll die in the night and we either win or lose the following day, so either way, in my opinion it is about the best method to take. At least that's my opinion. I'm sure some will be of another opinion, but I implore you all this will help cut down things a bit more giving us even fewer choices to choose from.

[ilgross]

OK here is the plan:

 

What we have:

1 Cop (known)

1 Doc (unknown)

1 Innocent (known)

1 Innocent (Unknown)

2 Mafia (Unknown)

 

Assumption every tells the truth, except the mafia.

 

1) The Scum claim as innocent.

 

We have 1 Cop, 1 Doc, 1 Innocent (confirmed by Kyros).

 

3 Claimed Innocents, 2 of which are scum.

 

We lynch one.

 

If we lynch a mafia, then we have one left that can be investigated by Kyros, who is protected by the cop, which gives us the identity of the last scum who we then lynch.

 

If we lynch a townie, then we know who the last two scum are, and lynch them with Kyros and the Doc protecting randomly and Kyros confirming their guilt.

 

2) One Scum claims as Doc.

 

We have:

 

1 Cop

1 confirmed innocent

2 Docs (1 is scum)

2 claimed innocents (1 of which is scum)

 

We lynch one of the innocents, while Kyros investigates one of the docs, while being protected by the real doc. Thus depending on the result of the lynch and investigations, we can figure out the identity of the remaining scum.

 

Unless people are lieing, this plan should work flawlessly.

 

I am a roleless innocent.

 

[glow=red,2,300]Unvote[/glow]

 

I will vote for whoever fails to claim in the next little while.