FIDDLETON-UNDER-LYME ~ Werewolf mafia game

[damane]

who's to say that the Dude and Dsage are both symp and werewolf and neither of them finder? i thought maybe the Dude was truly the finder because he knows that i'm innocent, but maybe just maybe, because i voted for him thinking he was a werewolf he just said that to throw us all off. If he is a werewolf then of course he knows i'm innocent, he knows who is innocent and who is a werewolf already.

Well played i might say. Not gonna work though.

[glow=red,2,300]unvotes Dsage[/glow]

 

[glow=red,2,300]Votes the Dude[/glow]

 

i'm telling ya the Dude is a werewolf, not a symp.

[Toy and Minion]

Well, I'm going to school again.  >.<

 

Be back in about 8 hours again.  Please, dont lynch anyone until I get back.  I would like a say in matters.

[the dude]

um, damane, please unvote me.  we'd made so much progress.  ;)

 

lynching someone else is a viable option too.  for once we agree on something, Dsage.  do we have any good candidates.

 

for the record, though, damane, the reason i viewed you last night was because there had been a couple of comments that perked my ears up, and even though you weren't really my top suspect, i wanted the suspicion out of the way.  i know that you're on the good side now, so i'd really like to trust you, but it's hard when you're pointing that loaded vote at me.  :P  c'mon, baby, why you gotta be that way?  8)

 

EDIT:  and i think that the prospect of there being a third finder claimant out there to be dubious at best.  the tricky thing with these games is always knowing just how much to read into things.  it can get wicked convoluted, but i assure you that this time around, it's a simple finder vs. impostor.

[damane]

why should i believe you or Dsage, and i don't think the third option is any good either cause i have my suspicions about that person as well.

[Amethea]

I'd be tempted to look for people who haven't posted as much as usual, as I did at the beginning of the game, or for people whose words don't quite ring true.  I don't know what to think about my idea last night that one of the four newest players might be a werewolf (and whether it was Vemy's generosity that they should survive past the first night, or to make sure that one of them survived - as a werewolf).  Likewise, I've got hunches about a couple of people, too, but not much to back them up.

 

I'm not going to give my vote until I get something more solid, though.

 

[damane]

okay then Dude what were those comments exactly that perked you up into looking at me?

[the dude]

i'm planning on doing a readthrough later today and i'll make a note to include those comments in my breakdown, damane.  i can't say that i have the specifics at my fingertips right now, but i'll make an effort.  you're pretty much the only one i know for a fact i can trust, and i'd like that to be reciprocated.  just bear with me in the meantime, cool?  ;)

[damane]

Whoa waite a minute stop the bus!*comes back from a well deserved long hot shower* Just got to thinking about something. If the Dude were the real finder then why didn't the werewolves take him out, i know they got the healer, but they didn't know who the healer was, no one did, so why wouldn't they take out the known finder? Is it me or does everyone else see a smoke screen?

[the dude]

that's pretty standard procedure. 

 

after a finder reveals, it's highly likely that the healer, if still active, is going to protect the finder overnight.  i believe that dark justice probably protected my rather than dsage, after i helped take down vemy. 

 

that the werewolves took out dark and that he was the healer is a really, REALLY unfortunate coincidence.  i don't think they had enough info to infer that he was the healer, but he was a safe bet as a kill, since he wasn't one of the 2 finder claimants.

[the dude]

for the record, i'm re-reading right now, and i highly suspect it's going to take the rest of the day...... 

[Amethea]

I'm having a reread myself, trying to find something to back up a hunch.

[Kryos]

Well, I need to reread as well... just had to jump on the bandwagon I suppose.

 

And about voting someone else out and seeing what comes of the two finders over night is a plan I would suggest as well, but unfortunately, most of the leads towards anyone else right now is fairly thin. And honestly, if the dude is the finder, I could see why he would choose damane.. Damane has definitely been rather forceful in some of the reversals made in votes, and as well, voted right off the bat for someone who ended up being an innocent that was lynched. So in a way it does make sense, so that couldn't be faulted. But I definitely suggest we find someone else to go after to lynch... it'll just take an awful lot of digging to figure out someone whom we can choose.

[the dude]

Yeah, I'm making a somewhat exhaustive read-through right now.  I have no idea how Sirayn was able to put together like 5 of these per game.  I hate it.

 

The other thing with damane, to be perfectly honest, is that she was gunning for me a little, and I just thought I'd check her out in case.  Taking out a werewolf that was also all up in my grill would have been nice.  Alas.

[Xefan]

Okay, [glow=red,2,300]unvote[/glow] for now.  Now I'm not sure who is the real finder.  But I support lynching someone else.  sounds good.

 

Current Players:

 

the dude (claims finder)

DSage (claims finder)

 

Raena

Kryos

Amethean

Xefan

Loreina

Naeann

damane (dude claims her innocent, but with DSage possibly being the Finder, that's not enough)

[Amethea]

My reread has come back without too much proof of guilt for my hunches, although I do have a couple of points to query.  Firstly, why did Naeann take her vote off Vemy at the eleventh hour, just before his lynch?  (even though Talya still counted it as a vote, as it came in too late).  Seemed a bit odd to me, although I'm clutching at straws a bit.  Also, Xefan has been pretty quiet, although there are all manner of reasons to explain that.  Loreina started off being quite vehement in her accusations, but that could just be her style of playing the game, likewise for Kryos and his very logical style.  In other words, I haven't turned up very much.

 

I'm going to wait and see what other people come up with, and see if anyone's views match my own.  Sorry if it seems like I'm trying to hedge my bets:  I'm not really sure of my hunches this time.

[Kryos]

I'm definitely wait and see what others decide for the most part... the waiting may draw someone to fumble and such, so then we could hopefully catch someone.

[Naeann]

I think its a good idea.  I was unsure which of those two to pick because I still can't decide which one is telling the truth and we already lost our healer and I'm worried we might pick the wrong one and loose our finder too.

[Raena]

Right now my strongest hunch is for Loreina. Don't really have any evidence, since it's just a hunch...

[damane]

well i'm gonna [glow=red,2,300]unvote the Dude[/glow]for now, and i will not be voting until i'm sure who i am going to vote for, of course i thought i was sure the other times...lol

 

Anyway, i think we should lynch Dsage. Regardless. we've all had this feeling about Dsage from the get go. If the Dude is the finder then he is next anyway, if he isn't we can always lynch him next.

 

Dsage claims he's the finder but what info has he shared with us about who he has viewed?

 

i don't do rereads. i figure if anyone finds anything useful they'll let us know.

[the dude]

Okay, I'm going to take a stab at this read-through.  Bear with me here; I'm typing as I read, and I hate doing read-through's.  It's counter to how I normally run, and it's damn time-consuming... 

 

Those of you who want to skip what promises to be some exruciating reading, scroll down to the bottom for conclusions.

 

Anyway, here we go.  My starting point is going to be interactions with Vemy, as he's the only known werewolf.  Dsage is in the air a bit, because he's either a symp or a werewolf. 

 

In some ways there would be advantages to knowing this.  The reason is that, if he's the symp, then Vemy et al didn't actually know that he was the symp on day 1, and they were just picking a target at random to get lynched.  Just to be clear, the rules clearly state that the symp knows who the werewolves are, but the werewolves do not know who the symp is.  This is something that didn't occur to me right at first.

 

In other words, the werewolves almost unwittingly killed their symp on day 1.  ;D  Which is, like, pretty funny.

 

Unless, of course, Dsage is in fact a werewolf, and the symp is still under the radar somewhere.

 

Now, to the read-through.

 

Reply # 5, Page 1.  Vemy asks that we let the newbies live through day 1.  List includes Kryos, Xefan, Loreina and Damane. 

 

Then he votes for Raena. 

 

Now, this could be pure altruism for the newbs.  I think it would be naive to assume that none of these are werewolves though.  Just by sheer math, that's 4/13 players, in a game where there are likely (by precedents) 3 werewolves.  Odds are very strong that at least one of them is a werewolf, and that this is a convenient way for Vemy to protect a compatriot through day one on a free pass.  He also posits that at least one of the werewolves is an experienced player, pointing out Raena and I.

 

Voting Raena could be random (not 100% sure why he voted Raena and not me), or it could be a distancing tactic.  If, say, he knew that Raena was evil, and was continuing in the above tactics, then voting for Raena would distance himself from her, while possibly suggesting a connection with me. 

 

All this is just to keep in mind for future posts, to see what connections come out. 

 

Since I know damane is innocent, I won't worry much about her from here on in; she simply got lumped in.  So, people I'm looking at from here:

 

Kryos, Loreina, Xefan and Raena. 

 

No offense to the innocents in that list; this is the only way I can proceed, and hopefully it'll come out in this thing which of you are on the level.

 

Reply # 7, Page 1.  Raena explains symp role that Vemy asked about.  Suggests that the assassin is the same as a vigilante role.

 

Reply # 8, Page 1.  Vemy unvotes Raena.  Not sure what to make of that right now.  Then he starts going into some numbers breakdowns about whether the symp counts towards the number of werewolves, as well as whether or not the symp registers as such under investigation. 

 

Then in the next post or 2 there are some projections of kill scenarios, and how long the innocent team has to catch a werewolf before they lose.  Mentions the assassin role as not sounding pretty for the innocent team.

 

Raena replies, explaining some more about the symp from previous experience, as well as about the assassin role.

 

On Page 2, Loreina does some harmless spamming; nothing really to see there.

 

Reply # 20, Page 2.  Dsage shows up.  Mentions that his "minion-ness" to Raena is lifted, and he can vote for her if needed.  Probably inconsequential, but still...  Distancing tactic is possible here, if Dsage is symp.

 

I skip over a couple of posts here from my list, since there's little of consequence in them.  Check them out for yourself if you want to verify. 

 

Reply # 24, Page 3.  Loreina questions the viability of experienced players arbitrarily assigned to evil roles; says it's a bit too obvious.  Mentions Raena and I by name.

 

Vemy replies directly after explaining some metagame reasons why he thinks this.  The arguments make a certain amount of sense, but are later defeated.  More on that later.

 

Reply # 30, Page 3.  Amethea shows up, asking if this is a coroner game.  Vemy replies right away saying he hopes so.  Xefan and Dsage both pipe in right after in agreement.

 

Vemy is then showing some impatience for players who haven't posted yet.

Replies # 40 and # 41.  Dsage and Amethea are happy that this is a coroner game.

 

Reply # 44, Page 4.  Kryos posts, explaining his absense.  Votes for Vemynal without explanation.

 

In the next few replies, Kryos and Loreina exchange some banter about being a werewolf; nothing concrete, just some color commentary.  Or is it to set each other up as being unconnected?  We'll see.  They both make a point of mentioning Vemy , oscillating between "he's probably evil" and "he's probably not."  Hmmmm...  it is worth pointing out that they're making a point of being slightly adverserial.  Nothing major, but still.

 

In reply # 50, Page 5, Loreina points the spotlight on Dsage.  Again, there's no real reasoning behind it; it's simply color commentary, but worth mentioning nevertheless.  She picked Dsage a bit out of nowhere.  If Loreina's a werewolf and Dsage is symp, then this is likely coincidence (a funny one at that).  If they're both werewolves, then this is some more distancing tactics.

 

Page 5, Reply # 54.  Vemy justifies Kryos's vote for him to Loreina.  In the very next post, he also asks Dark Justice to give advice to the finder.  I think that Vemy is hoping that Justice will give good advice, and then the wolves can act to circumnavigate that advice.

 

Page 6, Reply # 62.  Vemy votes for me as a "welcoming present."

 

Page 7, Reply # 72.  Talya confirms that roles are assigned randomly.

 

Next, Vemy asks Dark for more viewing advice (probably didn't like that Dark said to investigate Vemy  :P), and makes sure that his vote on me is registered.

 

Page 7, Reply # 77.  Kryos spams a bit, and then also starts to question me with some color commentary.  Also states (again) that he's still suspicious of Loreina.

 

Page 7, Reply # 82.  Vem unvotes me.  Not sure why.

Page 8, Reply # 88.  Dark votes for Dsage.  Dsage had no votes before this.  (well maybe he had one and it got unvoted; i don't remember and this is taking too long already, so i'm not going to go back and look).  The votes so far are:

 

Leelou (1) by damane

Vemy (1) by Kryos

Dsage (1) by Dark Justice

 

Dsage shows back up.

 

Reply # 95, Page 8.  Vemy votes for Dsage.  What that means depends on what Dsage is (symp or wolf).

 

*weeps because i'm only on page 9 of 40....*

 

At this point, Vemy starts talking about his 10-page analysis.  Dsage, Raena and Kryos express interest.

 

Xefan has been busy.

 

I question the validity of an analysis at this point.  Loreina backs me up.

 

I'll be honest.  At this point, this post is cursedly long, and I'm trying to trim the fat...

 

VEMY'S ANALYSIS.  This should be good.

 

Kryos - (I'm paraphrasing here).  Loreina suspects Kryos.  Kryos suspects me.  I think Kryos is innocent.

 

(I'm skipping known innocents in this)

 

Vemynal (on himself) - I'm experienced.  I'm not evil.  I think Dsage is eveil.

 

Amethea - this is pretty non-committal.  Not much to really see here.

 

Dsage - this one is a long one that has little basis in my mind.  Really, he's calling Dsage out over a song.  A song.  He also thinks it's a little suspicious to be happy that the game is a coroner game.  Um, Vemy expressed that same sentiment earlier himself.  He's happy that we're not bandwagoning.  Maybe he is, maybe he isn't.  Depends on what Vemy knows about Dsage at this juncture.  Vemy sums up this analysis with a firm "I'm voting for Dsage, he's a murderer, and I'm probably not going to change my vote."  Mmm-Hmmm....  Again, what this really means depends on what Vemy knew or was able to infer.

 

Dude (me) - In effect, this is a really chummy analysis.  He says he doesn't really suspect me but wanted to see my reaction.  Says Dsage copied my reaction to being voted for.  Likes me, hopes I'm good.  Translation:  "Hey everybody!  Dude and I are friends!  We're on the same side!  I don't want him lynched!"  Setting up in case he gets lynched?  Hoping someone remembers this post and draws the hoped-for conclusion?  I think so.

 

Raena - "I think that Raena is awesome and also innocent."

 

Xefan - nothing of substance whatsoever.  Non-committal.

 

Reply # 122, Page 11.  Raena asks if Vemy is voting for Dsage because he wants a coroner, or because he couched said desire in song.  Right after, Vemy confirms that it was Dsage's singing that bugged him.  Spurious much?  Vemy and Raena agree that coroner games are good.  Vemy really wants some "explanations" from Dsage.

 

Reply # 27, Page 11.  Dsage says Vemy's got nothin'. 

 

Reply # 29, Page 11.  Vemy is adamant.

 

At this point, I'm not even close to finishing Day 1.  There is no god.

 

Reply # 134, Page 12.  I state that Day 1 is a crapshoot and that statistically, Dsage probably isn't guilty.  Funny comment considering.  I point this out so you know I'm not trying to hide anything.  Please, all, feel free to point out ANYTHING I've missed.  Anything of significance, leastwise.

 

Reply # 145, Page 13.   Raena isn't so sure about Dsage.  Is leery of Vemynal, but won't vote for him.  Votes for Leelou (innocent) because she seems to be keeping low.

 

Reply # 151, Page 13.  Dsage is "fed up" with being persecuted by Vemynal.  He votes for Vemy.

 

Vemynal stays solid on his vote.

 

Dsage is still fed up.  Sounding a little pissed at this point, actually.  Exasperated symp, or more chicanery between wolves.

 

Reply # 154 Xefan votes Dsage.

 

In my growing despair and laziness, I've missed some votes and unvotes.  As of Reply # 161, the vote count is:

 

Leelou  (2): Damane, Raena

Dsage (4): Dark Justice, vemynal, leelou, Xefan

Vemy (3): Kryos, Dsage, Cloudcrono

Naeann (1): Amethea

 

Reply # 162, Page 14.  Dear god I'm only on page 14.  I will never ever do a read-through like this again.  Cromwell approval from now on.  The highlights in this lengthy post are that Vemy again stresses the contention between Kryos and Loreina, and mentions that he doesn't think Raena and I are evil.  Reiterates his request for newb immunity for day/night 1.  More on Dsage, and MUCH MORE on cloudcrono.

 

Next post, Dsage is still frustrated.

 

I again question motives for kiling Dsage, and vote Leelou based on numbers....

 

Then a bunch of stuff is posted.  I'm so sick of this, as is anyone else reading this I'm sure......  8)

 

Reply # 182, Page whatever it is I don't care.  Dsage unvotes Vemynal.  At this point, Vemy had 3 votes, and Leelou and Dsage had 4 each.  Maybe Dsage is sucking it up and being a good symp?

 

Reply # 203.  Raena reiterates a previous statement from Cloudcrono that people shouldn't give advice to the finder about viewings.  You know, this goes a really long way to making me trust Raena.  That's a very good piece of advice that a werewolf would be silly to offer.

 

Around this point I unvote Leelou, feeling sorry for her.  Vemynal would really like to see her lynched though, and tries to encourage me to re-vote.  I don't, but a number of other votes come in for her. 

 

Reply # 242.  Dsage puts the final vote on Leelou.

 

Post # 246.  Another Vemy analysis.  The death scene hasn't been laid down yet, but well, Vemy knew Leelou was innocent, so he didn't really have to wait, now did he?

 

Vemy's second analysis:

 

Kryos - Vemy reiterates the tension between Kryos and Loreina.  Points out that Kryos has voiced suspicions that Vemy is evil.  Vemy thinks Kryos is innocent.

 

Naeann - this one is somewhat rambling.  He links Naeann to Dsage and Amethea.

 

Amethea - He says that if Naeann is evil, then he thinks Amethea will be evil too.  He thinks she's innnocent though.

 

Leelou - "I'm a little suspicious of her but I'm still voting for Dsage"  Yeah I bet you are, since Leelou has already received the killing vote.

 

Cloudcrono - "If Dsage is evil then crono is my prime suspect."

 

Dsage - more of the same.  At this point I think that Dsage is the symp and Vemynal hasn't picked up on it.

 

Raena - not much to say here.  He basically pegs her as an innocent.  So far, I think I agree, but I won't make any final judgments on that.

 

Xefan - "followed my lead on Dsage.  Not enough information."

 

Loreina - Again with the dustup with Kryos.  Vemynal also links these two with me.  Says he doesn't believe that Kryos and Loreina are really beefing.

 

Damane - inconclusive

 

DONE ANALYSIS-ANALYSIS.

Reply # 248.  Dsage says that he doesn't think Vemy is evil.  A symp covering the ass of a werewolf who's unwittingly trying to get him killed.  Poor guy; he's just trying to be a good trooper.

 

Then Dsage and I banter about the Double Blind.

 

Then some time passes as we wait for the lynch scene.  I want to die.  I haven't even gotten to the end of Day 1 yet.  Kill me please.

 

So anyway, Leelou dies, she's innocent.  Everyone feels bad.  People spam some.  '

 

Sweet merciful heaven, the spam goes on and on.  Awesome.  That much less I have to read carefully.

 

Finally, on Reply # 329, we're back to day.

 

I'd since received my viewing of Vemynal.  I viewed him for the obvious reasons that everyone had already stated.  He was active, and influential, and if he was evil, he had to go right away. 

 

Vemynal jumps in quick on Reply # 333 to say that cloudcrono was surely killed to make Vemynal look suspicious.  He then recants on his suspicions of Dsage, because cloudcrono was a supporter of Dsage on Day 1.  Has someone clued Vemynal in that Dsage is on their side?  I wonder.  Vemynal also mentions that he's certain that Kryos is innocent too.

 

Your name keeps popping up, there, Kryos.  I'm starting to wonder...

 

Raena points out the convolutions that often occur in these situations, in Reply # 234.

 

Then Vemynal starts saying he thinks he's gonna go down.  A little later Loreina agrees but doesn't vote.

 

Reply # 338, Dsage votes for Vemynal.  This is an odd move.  Weird for a symp to do this.  I'm really not sure about this guy; werewolf or not!?

 

Vemynal plays the world's smallest violin, just for himself.

 

Reply # 343:  Kryos votes Vemynal after a longish post saying Vem is probably evil.  Hmmmm......

 

Reply # 355.  Vemy calls Kryos out, saying he doesn't have a leg to stand on.

 

Kryos replies a couple posts later in a conciliatory fashion, but doesn't unvote.

 

Xefan votes Dsage, saying he's running a ploy to take down Vemy.  That's in Reply # 360.

 

My eyes are bleeding.

 

I show up on Reply # 362.  I know Vemynal is evil.  I vote for him.  I don't reveal, because honestly, at this point, it didn't really look like I needed to.  Things were moving along quite nicely without me.  You'll notice that my vote glows green.  What?  No reason.

 

Kryos unvotes immediately.  Next post.  Right before this unvote, Vem had 3-4 votes.  Too many for comfort perhaps?

 

Several people at this point begin debating the Dsage vs. Vemynal kill.

 

Dark Justice, who had unvoted, re-votes for Vem.  Then unvotes.  Then revotes.  8)

 

Reply # 388 and on....  Loreina starts saying that the debate between Dsage and Vemy is a smokescreen for the werewolves.  Y'think?  You know, I do believe you're right, Loreina.  She also reiterates this a couple times on the same page.

 

16 pages to go and then I can stop.  Just 16 more pages...

 

Reply # 396:  Xefan says that killing either of Dsage or Vem will give us info on the other potentially, but thinks we should kill Dsage rather than Vem because of Vem's active status.

 

Xefan also, a couple posts later, says the same thing as Loreina; this is all a setup.  Yup, it sure is.

 

Reply # 406.   Kryos says that Vem is obviously evil, but it's too obvious so he can't be.  OK.  He votes Dark Justice.  Doesn't explain.  "I'll explain later."  We'll see.

 

At this point, I think I should point out that both Vem and Dsage each had 4 votes.

 

You know what, until I see something else, I vote for [glow=green,2,300]Kryos.[/glow]

 

Reply # 407:  Vemy's getting a little antsy right now.  He starts talking really fast.  "Where's the finder claiming I'm evil?"  (Um, waiting in the rafters, hoping I don't have to reveal).  He points fingers at Kryos, Dsage, Raena, and Dark Justice.  He asks to be given a chance to do a new analysis.  Claims he needs time before he can do it due to real life.

 

By Vem's count, here are the votes at this point:

 

Vemynal(4): Dsage, Dude, Dark, Nae

Dsage(2): Xefan, Amethea,

Dark(1): Kryos

Not voting: Vemynal, Damane, Raena, Loreina,

 

Reply # 408:   Raena also states that she's reluctant to vote for Vem despite her suspicions.  We'll just keep this in mind for now.  I haven't seen as much suspicious stuff from Raena as Kryos, so I'm willing to let it slide, but this loses some points.  She doesn't vote.

 

Reply # 410.  Now, Kryos really doesn't want to have Vem killed.  He pleads with us all to not kill him.  "If I'm not voting for him, then he must be innocent."  Uh-huh.  He still doesn't explain his vote for Dark Justice.

 

Dsage unvotes directly afterwards, saying he acted too soon.

 

Directly afer this, damane votes for Vemynal.  Good girl.

 

I'm getting annoyed at this point, and just want the damn werewolf killed.  In retrospect, I should have kept my mouth shut.  I start pushing a bit, still not revealing, but getting insistent.

 

Damane doesn't like this, and unvotes Vem and votes for me.  Dammit.

 

By Reply # 421, people are wondering why damane voted for me.  Somewehre in here apparently Kryos voted Dark Justice.  I missed that I guess and there's no way in hell that I'm going back to look.  Screw that with a rubber hose.

 

Now I'm trying to get people on board, dropping hints like crazy, hoping that the innocents will pick up on it.  Damn it, pick up on it! ( :P).

 

Dsage votes for Vem again on Reply # 428.

 

Reply # 435.   Sick of the debating and wanting to get on with the business of offing a werewolf, I reveal.

 

Dark Justice agrees that it is early to reveal, but understands that there was a reason.  He asks if there's a counterclaim.  I sort of wish he hadn't, but honestly it's very likely that the werewolves would have come up with the strategy anyway.  This group of evils seems willing to take risks and try some more exotic strategies.

 

Right on schedule on Reply # 438, Dsage comes on with a counterclaim.  This amuses me, because now I've got the names of 2 evils.  It doesn't immediately occur to me that he could be the symp.  I start getting sassy, as is my wont at times.  Dsabe is skating real fast over the thin ice, but I personally don't think he's selling it very well.

 

Reply # 451:  Dsage's famous slip where he basically says he's the symp, under the guise of saying that I'm the symp.  I love it.

 

Kryos makes some innocent-sounding comments on Reply # 458; he backs up what I have to say, while not voting for anyone.  In fact, he unvotes.  Basically, sinking into the "Dsage what is wrong with you crowd" without having to hurt his team mate, I suspect.

 

Reply # 462:  Raena votes Vem off, stating the obvious logic that I can easily be killed the next day if I'm lying.

 

# 464:  Amethea votes Vem.

 

# 465:  Dsage votes Vem.  Bad symp!

 

10 pages to go.  I miss my wife and daughter... 

 

Kryos votes for Vem.  The ship is sinking.  Abandon ship.  Every man for himself.

 

Vemynal is doing some real fast talking now.

 

Dsage unvotes.  That's # 478.  Above incidents are very shortly before this.

 

Naeann unvotes, but Talya carries on with the kill anyway.  And, what do you know?  Vem's evil.  Just like I said. 

 

And now, in Reply # 486, Dsage was sure Vem was evil all along, but of course he can't have a fake finder claim when clearly he's the finder.  Clearly.  ;)

 

Now, at night, Dark starts talking a lot about how he's worried he's going to get killed.  Like, a lot.  He was pushing for the lynch, yeah, but I think that his over-vocalization of his worries is what drew the wolves to him.  The wolves had to know that either Dsage or I was gonna be protected, depending on who the healer believed.  At this point, obviously, if Dsage is the symp, the wolves know it.  They're not going to try to kill him, and it's too risky to attempt killing me.  So why not go after the fellow who's worried and who has no reason to be protected?  Poor bastard.

 

Banter during the night reveals that most people aren't really buying Dsage's story now that Vem has been revealed as evil.

 

I liked this quote right here:

 

I think you will. More conserned about me. Pretty sure they are pissed about my entire "lynch Vem" campaign.

 

As in, you know I will, right?  ;D  Thanks, man.

 

I also enjoyed this:

 

Well' date=' all I can say, is I believed Vemy to be evil, but unfortunately, everything was laid out in a manner that made things just too surreal. And my true reasonings for then voting for Dark Justice of course were just a whim really. But oh well. We have one evil down, now to get the rest... And I fully do believe that DSage is the symp, mainly due to the fact of how adamant he was in trying to keep Vemy from being lynched, so we still have two werewolves to dig out, time to reread... and a lot of rereading it is.[/quote']

 

Way to say nothing at all there, Kryos.  "I knew Vem was evil but didn't want to vote for him.  It's ok to say that Dsage is the symp because everyone knows it, and better him than me."

 

Did I mention I'm voting for [glow=green,2,300]Kryos[/glow]?

 

Honestly, I've still got like 5 pages to go, but I just can't be bothered.  This is what I've found.  Loreina, I'm a little suspicious of, but Kryos I'm pretty sure is a well-camouflaged werewolf.  Seriously, he's done a good job, but I'm pretty sure we've got one there.  Others never really stood out enough to make me wonder too much.  Everyone's bound to do at least one suspicious thing.

 

I need a cigarette....  I'm never doing one of these again.

 

[Amethea]

That's a pretty impressive review, and well done for getting through it!  I know my eyes were glazing over a bit towards the end of my (I've forgotten how many times it was) reread.  I think I'm going to wait and see what Kryos has to say to this, but he was one of the ones I had a hunch about, so it'll be interesting to see how he responds before I vote.

[damane]

please, please, please never ever do that again....my eyes, ears, nose, throat, and skin are all bleeding....

[the dude]

Yeah.  I'm still open to killing Dsage too, to see if he is in fact a symp, or actually a werewolf.

 

And damane, I apologize.  You have my sincere promise that I will never put myself or anyone else through that again.  That sucked.  Hard.

 

Do you believe me now though?  8)

[Raena]

Oh. My. God. Long. Post. I admire you, dude.

 

I'm also going to wait for Kryos to respond to this.

[the dude]

Heh, admire or pity?

 

And by all means, I do want to hear what Kryos has to say.  It's easy to read to much into stuff, but, like, if you look at what's up there, his name pops up a LOT in comprimising situations.

 

In effect, I'm just trying to get as much info out as possible, cuz I'm pretty sure I'm dead tonight.