Fiddleton Fortress- Vampire Mafia

[SBoydW]

Alright.... so what does this tell us.... cloud and amethea......

 

 

hmmm.... absolutely nothing....

 

Oh and to answer your question earlier Vem....with 11 players...... there could be 3 evils... though since there weren't 12 players to start, it's possible that there are only 2. I've seen games this size go both ways.

[Vemynal]

Yellow: unknown role

Purple: Dead, unknown role

Red: Murderer

Blue: Innocent

Teal: Rolled innocent

 

Review updated!^^

Amethea Killed Night 1-Same play style as last time. Constantly asking questions. Amethea votes for Safir. Finds it strange Zylazlo revealed so soon. in an attempt to keep the day from getting to long unvotes Safir and votes cloud. Nothing important posted during the night before she died. So why was she killed? the choices are: a random chosen death, She was specifically killed because the murderers knew it wouldn;t give us any information (which leads me to suspect an at least partially experienced player is involved), or she was killed to frame someone. As she voted for Safir then likely the murderer either *is* min or wants us to think its Min. Min voted for cloud meaning the death of Amethea could be revenge for killing off a murderer. But thats getting pretty deep there and simply adaptable moves are often best. For no i choose to believe an at least semi-experienced player thought of the idea that killing her would not give us any info to go on.

 

cloudcrono Lynched Day 1 by: Minuet, boyo, vemy, amethea, safir, Naeann- Safir votes for him, then unvotes and cloud has no problems with this. Then votes Min (whether as a random vote or to see her reaction i don't know). Eval of people who lynched Cloud- Min because he voted for her. boyo for no good reason. Myself because he voted for min & I said I trust boyo's opinion. Amethea, Safir and nae bandwagon because the day took so long. Cloud then doesn't post till after all 6 votes are on him and claims his innocence and tells us that Dark Justice is really suspicious to him. After death claims his innocence.

 

Dark Justice- Doesn't vote day 1. makes an entrance post, is the last to show up. a spam post, implies we could hunch lynch. but says he lacks the skill at that. Asks for a confession from the vamps. Agrees that oen of the experienced players is likely a vampire but comments its to risky. Thinks leelou's vote is odd. Thinks Zylazlo's reveal so early is weird. proposes going straight to night. then a sec later posts that we should wait for min. Holds to his idea of we might as well go to night. Hasn't posted since before the lynch finished.

 

Danya- Joins the game in her first post^^ (/snuggles his BoP&G^^). Comments that shes an experienced player, comments that we shouldn't lynch an experienced player because theres no proof one of us is evil. After I vote for her she comments she's only posted 3 or 4 times (this is her 6th) and asks what my reason for voting her is. Posts asking in what way she defended sboyd. Comments she was only questioning my reasoning. Comments wasn't defending sboyd but all 3 experienced players. Never votes on day 1. Has only made 2 spam posts, one right after our lynch during the night. Has not posted since the beginning of day 2

 

Leelou-3rd person to show up. Asks what they do now in her second post. Responds to my "2 special good, 3 bad and 6 innocent" post with a "we already know". Comments that she thought the first day is usually random. Votes for dark justice for being really quiet even though she's only made 3 more posts then him (and he's made 1 more post then a couple of others). Kinda fishy, keeping my eye on this one as well. Soon unvotes Dark Justice after my 1st review. Makes a post during night after we lynched cloud but hasn't posted since night.

 

Min- Very adamant about not killing her, as you'd expect a newbie murderer to be. Someone who would go over the top being voted for. But Calyn reacted this exact same fashion in the wild wild west game and i know Min doesn't have a clue whats going on since this is her first game so I doubt she's evil. Min votes for cloud first in response to his voting her and then calls for me and nae to lynch him. Makes another post calling for us to lynch cloud but admits she has no solid evidence. does not claim healer. Min then asks after Cloud has 6 votes whether he admits his role and is now "dead". After Amethea is night killed says she thinks Amethea wasn't evil (which i agree with btw, but we don't *know* that).

 

Mr. Soy Boyo-I vote for sboyd and then a bit later he inquires as to why I voted for him instead of danya. He also agrees with cloud that he's willing to lynch Min. Votes for cloud commenting that he forgot to do that way back (but rather he had commented that he was up for killing min & agreed with cloud). his reason for cloud is "Why not?" a *very* different play style then last game. Doesn't want to go to night because its too risky. makes another 2 spam posts (and they were kinda funny sboyd^^) Again comments his reason was "why not" for voting cloud. Posts after the night has ended saying "What does cloud and amethea tell us...nothing" and goes on to say that there could be 2 or 3 evils. Sboyd your back at the top of my list as suspects. Your playing entirely different from the wild wild west game AND i still think that the evils will have an experienced player on their team. Especially since the night kill gave us *NO* conclusive information, which only an experienced player would have seen would have the highest advantage for themselves. And you had *NO* reason to vote cloud! you didn't even bandwagon really as he only had 1 vote (same as everyone else) on him at that time. Min counter voted, I voted because she asked me too/he had 2 votes on him and we needed night information. But at the point where he only had 1 vote on him the idea of "well hes got one more so might as well jump on him" doesn't apply. Different game play, no reason for voting, quiet & inactive, experienced player, and the evils made a very experienced night kill. Hell, leelou, Safir, nae he's not playing the same as last game even remotely! help me out here =/

 

Naeann- 1 entrance post, 1 spam post, didn't like the Saturday time limit, inquires whether I am offering myself up as a possible lynch when i said "myself or sboyd" (and the answer is yes nae, not like I could stop you). Comments after my review she was kidding about wanting the due date for day 1 pushed back and says she thinks it will be over by then. Also mentions she still has no idea who to vote for. Then comments that it may take longer then Saturday. Later is the last vote on cloud. Comments she thinks Safir is acting a bit weird because he was almost happy about cloud dying. then has a bunch of spam posts w/ safir. Posts during the night and at the beginning of day 2 rather frequently XD. Nothing here to see from what I can tell.

 

Safir- he's playing an entirely different way this time, being open and vocal about his opinions. Very active this time. Normally a change in play style is a red flag, and while I know this is meta-gaming. The end of the wild wild west game we told him to try to be more active, it was because I was more vocal that people didn't believe him. So I don't think he's evil, it just happened to catch my eye. Doesn't vote for Zylazlo because not sure he can trust me (and after WWW who can blame him XD) defends leelou and comments and flames random voting. says min, leelou and zylazlo are most suspicious to him. Hates day 1. Says he's given it though and votes Zylazlo. Unvotes until someone counterclaims. ton of spam posts. Eventually votes for Min (while he doesn't give a reason he also had commented earlier that was suspicious to him). Comments how he thinks the game will go. Says its strange that Dark Justice says go to night now but says he's low on the suspect list. Eventually (after much spam XD) votes for cloud but says he doesn't want too. He just doesn't want to stretch the day out. is sad to see cloud go. Defends himself against nae who says he's suspicious. more spam w/ Nae XD. More spam with alys. And his first post for day 2 is slightly over dramatic. *VERY* active during day 1, and night 1.

 

Vemynal- I'm me, what you want? My plans i shall keep to myself for the time because if others knew them then they wouldn't work now would they? I'll leave it to someone else to review my posts (sorry for all the spam posts^^).

 

Zylazlo- First game post. 2 spam posts. calls for us to begin but its before everyone has shown up. Calls for a random vote and someone to sacrifice themselves, comments that we might as well random vote since we are at a stalemate anyways. Is happy he is not an experienced player, uses the random vote method known as the "Loki Opener" where everyone lynches the 8th person on the list (happens to be naeann). Hints that it would be a bad idea to kill him and then when I press him he comes out and says he's the healer (to which no one counter-claims. and as everyone posted and no one was dead yet I believe him). me and Safir instantly unvote him and await a counter claim (none come). Questions come up as to why he revealed so easily and he says its because he was afraid (I can understand, slightly inactive and as seen with cloud once you get 1 more vote then the others day 1 your usually dead). Unvotes naeann. he never votes for Cloud and hasn't posted since before the lynch, his night action is possibly what made night take so long?

 

 

For now I'm voting [glow=red,2,300]Sboyd[/glow] and i feel very certain in this matter having never played wiht him evil before, he (as good) has always been active & helpful. this time he's been almost non-existent and unhelpful. Voting for no reason. As an experienced player i can also see him helping the murderers with a kill that would give us no information.

 

I've marked Zylazlo down as a confirmed rolled innocent since we've had no challenger to the role.

 

I've also marked myself as innocent but i know you can't necessarily trust that so I'll forgive you if you don't believe me.

[Naeann]

Thanks Vemy for the review.  I'm gonna think on stuff a little before deciding who to vote for.

[Zylazlo-]

Actually, I sent in my choice of "healing" very early on... so you can mark off that lateness due to me, we should all check who hadn't posted in a while before the kill scene. Or posted just before the kill scene, maybe some confirmation in it all?

[Vemynal]

Guys, the murderers and the other specials have roles during the night, i'd prefer not to lynch people based around the idea of "so and so hasn't posted so must be this role since night took so long".

 

After all, if sboyd is really a murderer and the other two are new then maybe they had to wait on him. Or if say the finder is inactive then maybe he or she didn't get his or her viewing in till late. its risky to assume tht just because people are inactive that they are evil.

[Alys Kinch]

Boyo- Vemy

 

With 9 players, 5 to end the day.

 

And don't forget that I took notes from Raena. She was known for stalling out a day or night merely for the expectation factor. ;) I could be a lying liar...

[Dark Justice]

Vem. You manage to make everyone look suspitious.

How do you do that?  ???

 

 

[Leelou]

He is very good with words and with making people believe things...

[Naeann]

Very true Leelou!!

[Vemynal]

He is very good with words and with making people believe things...

 

heh, personal experience you wish to share leelou?

 

Naw, i didn't try to make everyone sound guilty, but rather the idea is "If i approach everyone as if they were guilty then who seems the most guilty?"

 

Since you can't trust, then who do you trust the least?

 

Alys! I didn't know Raena played these games! I wanna play with her some time! I'm one of her Aiel mentees^^

[Safir]

Nice, I only had time to read mine, as I wanted to see how things developed on your view of me, and now I must leave again!  ><

 

Yes, I do a lot of spam, don't I?  It probably rubbed off of Vem and onto me ^^

[Vemynal]

heh

 

I'm a bad influence on people^^

 

btw Safir...you and me might be spending a whole lot more time together at the White Tower org^^

[Vemynal]

"So I don't think he's evil, it just happened to catch my eye. Doesn't vote for Zylazlo because not sure he can trust me"

 

i edited my review just now to say the bold. Noticed that I had said Safir instead of Zylazlo in Safir's review XD

 

forgive me for editing but thought that it would be a good fix

[SBoydW]

Alright.  I'm must say that I am a bit embaressed and voted for the wrong person. :-[ :-[ :-[

 

I meant to vote Min, but I had just finished a long long long long long day at work and I misread my own post.  And about my inactivity, I worked from July 19(20? can't remember it's all a blur)-25 straight without a day off(6-7 days straight), then got the 26 off then worked the 27 and was off today but had things around the house to get done and had errands to run.  That is why I've been so inactive. So I've pretty much had one free day to post and be active, but no one was around much then.

 

And for the whole experienced player on the evil team giving them a meaningless night kill, whose to say that you're not on the evil team? Or Danya?  Both of you are in this game as experienced players, and as was mentioned a few post earlier, you are very VERY good with words... I've just recently stopped banging my head on the desk after the WWW game (kudos to you, and btw I hate you).

 

And honestly, as an evil I would say that I probably would have gone after you on night one because of your skill with the words and your experience, and chances are I could have done that and not have been looked at to hard for it.  Sure you voted for me, but you yourself said that you weren't sure, and later removed the vote and said that it wouldn't be reapplied that day and it wasn't.  According to your review you're still not sure because I'm listed as an Unkown.  If you feel so strongly then why didn't you list me as a red/evil?

 

So I'm not going to do a famous vote you back because you voted for me.  I'm going to give it a bit more time and see what a few of the other have to say.

[Vemynal]

you are very VERY good with words... I've just recently stopped banging my head on the desk after the WWW game (kudos to you, and btw I hate you).

 

And honestly, as an evil I would say that I probably would have gone after you on night one because of your skill with the words

 

<3 you^^

 

and thank you for the compliment^^

 

I didn't mark your name read because I refuse to do such without proof (willing to take Zylazlo as a proven healer because no counter-claim)

 

You've explained the inactivity

 

You've explained the not being helpful (you were tired i assume)

 

And you explained the oddity of voting Cloud rather then Min.

 

You claim me and danya could have thought it up the no-information night kill if one of us were evil.

 

 

What you have yet to explain is why you voted for someone, for no reason, when there wasn't a point to bandwagon, on day 1, which because things are usually so nerve racking usually the first to get 2 votes is lynched.

 

Was it maybe that you lynched cloud not because you miss read your own post, but because you thought it would be easier to kill cloud then min?

 

Your a rather experienced player yourself Sboyd (more so then myself for sure, though i doubt either of us touches Danya), so why would you make the mistake of a random kill on day 1 when you have no reason?

 

Because as i said many times, and as you said in the whild wild west game

 

A random lynch means no information

 

As we now had no information until I questioned who could think up such a plan.

 

 

And as to my being good with words (i really gotta stop being happy when people mention this XD especially when you guys are using it as a "oh he's evil" line :P) I'm not the only one whose good with words Sboyd, so are you.

 

The difference is that cept maybe Danya, no one here has seen *you* play as an evil.

 

While you, leelou, Safir, & Naeann knows how i play evil (Naeann especially because I went over a lot of tactics with her after the wild wild west game, she should know some of my stuff)

[SBoydW]

What you have yet to explain is why you voted for someone, for no reason, when there wasn't a point to bandwagon, on day 1, which because things are usually so nerve racking usually the first to get 2 votes is lynched.

 

A bandwagon is all that usually occurs on day 1 anyways, and 99.9% of the time reveals NO information.  We saw this in the last game, and I've seen it in many other games.  That's just how first days go.  My vote as I already explained was a mistake, but if I hadn't voted for cloud I'd have voted for Min and that would have been just as random and probably have revealed even less.  The first name I read in my original vote post was cloud so I voted for him, when I intended to vote for min.

 

Was it maybe that you lynched cloud not because you miss read your own post, but because you thought it would be easier to kill cloud then min?

 

Why would Min have been any harder?

 

Your a rather experienced player yourself Sboyd (more so then myself for sure, though i doubt either of us touches Danya), so why would you make the mistake of a random kill on day 1 when you have no reason?

 

How is a random kill on day 1 a mistake?  That's all there ever is on day 1, because there is nothing else to go on.  You pick someone and hope that they're evil or that you can draw a connection between their death and the night kill that ensues, which also doesn't happen to often on day/night 1.

 

As we now had no information until I questioned who could think up such a plan.

 

And since you are the one who thought this particular plan up apparently you are capable of it, so maybe you should be scrutinized as evil?  If you're capable of thinking that I could think of this you’re capable of also having thought of it.

 

While you, leelou, Safir, & Naeann knows how i play evil.

 

Seems to me you're playing exactly the same. So is that an admission of guilt?

 

In this game the only deaths that will give us any information is night kills, because they're the only ones that can be confirmed as innocents.  Lynches will be almost pointless to gain information because we won't ever know if we were successful or not at getting an evil.  Randomness is the only way to go in the beginning in no coroner finder games until deaths start drawing parallels.

 

I'm still not ready to cast my vote, and if it makes you feel better Vemy, you're not at the top of my suspect list.  I don't really even have one right now.

 

[Vemynal]

While you, leelou, Safir, & Naeann knows how i play evil.

Seems to me you're playing exactly the same. So is that an admission of guilt?

Heh, thank you for that sboyd^^ I was rather hoping you'd say that.

 

In harry potter mad-eye always said "Constant Vigilance"

 

In murderer games i say "Constant Gameplay" :P  (as i made reference to in your and Safir's review)

 

I'm still not ready to cast my vote, and if it makes you feel better Vemy, you're not at the top of my suspect list.  I don't really even have one right now.

 

As Talya never went after you on day 2 sboyd?

[Naeann]

Hmmm are they debating because they aren't on the same team... or because they are and are trying to throw us off... or both innocent and just really paranoid?

[Safir]

Good questions, Naeann, and truthfully, I couldn't tell you.  Best to keep an eye on these two.

[Vemynal]

I know this could get me lynched and all, but i took a fun quiz and here are the results XD:

 

Blue

 

You value knowledge, logic, and deceit.  You love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive.  At your best, you are brilliant and progressive.  At your worst, you are treacherous and cold.  Your symbol is a water droplet.  Your enemies are green and red.

 

http://www.wizards.com/magic/playmagic/whatcolorareyou.asp

[Safir]

You didn't have to post your results, we already knew all that.

[Alys Kinch]

Hehe. We took the test. My results: Green

You value growth, life, adaptation and nature.  You love to hunt, mate, kill, and eat—to you, that’s all there is.  At your best, you are instinctual and unpretentious.  At your worst, you are vicious and unthinking. Your symbol is a tree.  Your enemies are blue and black.

 

 

My husband's: Black

You value power, ambition, and darkness.  You love power at any cost, and are a corrupting influence on those around you.  At your best, you are resourceful and unashamed.  At your worst, you are parasitic and amoral. Your symbol is a skull.  Your enemies are white and green.

 

Now, can anyone spot the hilarity?

 

*go go mod spam!*

[Safir]

 

Interesting...

[MsDanya]

Red

You value freedom, impulse, emotion and fire.  You love instant gratification and acting on your gut feeling.  At your best, you are passionate and decisive.  At your worst, you are shortsighted and destructive.  Your symbol is a fireball.  Your enemies are white and blue.

 

:D

[SBoydW]