Game Over - Hamilton Mafia - SMFDR's Win!

[Zander?]

  On 4/12/2025 at 3:17 PM, seph said:

 

Nope, that is not logical.
Verb- as we established did not
ME- why are you including me in this scenario
Dice- He could have but why all the speculation and not come out and tell us if he is town. That would have made today so much easier but instead he goes after the person I roleblocked and am viewing as a towny because of it.
Key- No Roleblock
DPR- Has a roleblock but you have said nothing of this. I was his top townie read and I would have bet he would have told you since he trusted you. You could have just outed me if I was a wolf.
GUD- LITERALLY THE ONLY OPTION. 
Massive Misrep

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Me and you removed.  That leaves 3 possible players that could have done it.  Someone you aimed at someone else and been re directed and it hit you.  So I'm sorry I don't accept your maths lolololol

[Zander?]

  On 4/12/2025 at 3:27 PM, Zander? said:

 

Me and you removed.  That leaves 3 possible players that could have done it.  Someone you aimed at someone else and been re directed and it hit you.  So I'm sorry I don't accept your maths lolololol

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Sorry someone who aimed at you maybe redirected sorry lol.  There's just to many variables in nor lock clearing GUd based on that.  Especially when myself and other flipped Townies agree and players like Key who was almost spot on Halfway through Day 1 is one of them.  Turin and 2 confirmed wolves in bottom 4 poe Gud was also in there.  Sorry theres just took many things that could possibly have happened that effected your RB and again that's providing you're telling me the truth lolololol

[seph]

  On 4/12/2025 at 3:27 PM, Zander? said:

 

Me and you removed.  That leaves 3 possible players that could have done it.  Someone you aimed at someone else and been re directed and it hit you.  So I'm sorry I don't accept your maths lolololol

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Dice

Gud

Dpr

I listed them all in my list lol,

 

[Zander?]

  On 4/12/2025 at 3:31 PM, seph said:

Dice

Gud

Dpr

I listed them all in my list lol,

 

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DPR is dead lolololol 

[seph]

  On 4/12/2025 at 3:31 PM, Zander? said:

 

DPR is dead lolololol 

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I said that in the post as well. 

Which is why I have only been talking about gud/dice....

[Ithillian Turambar]

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[Zander?]

  On 4/12/2025 at 3:31 PM, seph said:

Dice

Gud

Dpr

I listed them all in my list lol,

 

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Like I guess here's how I look at it. There's 5 remaining players.  Obviously you wouldn't effect you so that's 4 outta 5 that still could have.  I couldn't have because I didn't and don't have any other PR.  So that means 3 out of 5 players could have done something that affected your RB into not working.  3 outta 5 is 60%.  I know your counter argument.  Dice and Verb would a said they did.  BUT there's 2 Wolves remaining most likely and they aren't going to say anything because all the mech stuff is now just becoming unbelievable and WINFOMing mostly.  I don't care really what the percentage is unless it's 0% chance nothing did and that's impossible.  And I'm sure there's some factoring im missing that maybe lowers the 60% chance but I also don't KNOW for certain you're Town so to me that percentage at absolute best is 50%.  Now if Gud has been pretty universally Town read I might be more apt to accept it.  But the fact the Majority of players has her Wolf is too much for me to gamble mech clearing her on something at best is right and wrong equally.

[Zander?]

  On 4/12/2025 at 3:32 PM, seph said:

I said that in the post as well. 

Which is why I have only been talking about gud/dice....

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There's Verb you know lololololol 

[Ithillian Turambar]

5 hours and 20 minutes till end of Day 3

[seph]

  On 4/12/2025 at 3:40 PM, Zander? said:

 

There's Verb you know lololololol 

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The neighbor who told us he didn't use his x1?

[Gudrean]

  On 4/12/2025 at 7:29 AM, dicetosser1 said:

Right my wtl is 

 

Gud. Think she’s outed herself with those eager hammer posts. Would guess she’s been told not to vote until 2 people are on someone then to bull rush it

 

seph. Particularly that last post has him trending down for me. Suddenly he’s talking mechanics, he’s gone from sudsing gusto clearing her based on unproven action

 

Verb.  I think it’s mechanically cleared. Could I be wrong? Absolutely. But I have to hang my hat somewhere. 

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if you look closer it was a response to Zanders and my conversation, don't put your feelings into my posts please.

 

2nd bold - that's just ridiculous 

[Zander?]

  On 4/12/2025 at 3:51 PM, Gudrean said:

if you look closer it was a response to Zanders and my conversation, don't put your feelings into my posts please.

 

2nd bold - that's just ridiculous 

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See again your response to the second part sketches me out lolololol.   There's no way you would know in your first game what a balanced setup would be unless someone told you.  Ithis stated it's closed so she's not telling ANYONE ANYTHING about setup....so how do you know it's ridiculous.....????????

[Zander?]

Anyways gotta shower and run into town.  Be back hopefully in 2-3 hour ish.  If I get a chance I'll try to read up and respond but not banking on having a chance

[Gudrean]

  On 4/12/2025 at 3:01 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

Not Dice, but seeing this as I catch up.  Simple answer:  he's lying.  Both he and Gud have angled together pretty hard today to get me lynched.  Gud seems to say things that imply more knowledge than she claims to have.  What happened to the player asking for info and wiki links to understand things?  Now she's a balance expert?

 

Seph conveniently has yet another RB and is trying to clear Gud with it.  The easy explanation, other than lying, is that the mafia NK is factional and can't be RBed.  If so, the RB is only good for the other 800 individual powers in this game, lol.

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I have not "angled" hard at anybody, I've simply stated I think you are a wolf neighbor.

I also never claimed to be an expert at balance. I said that the game was going to be balanced, role wise because the Mod knows what she is doing and made a good game. maybe not in so many words but...

 

[Verbal32]

  On 4/12/2025 at 4:09 PM, Gudrean said:

I have not "angled" hard at anybody, I've simply stated I think you are a wolf neighbor.

I also never claimed to be an expert at balance. I said that the game was going to be balanced, role wise because the Mod knows what she is doing and made a good game. maybe not in so many words but...

 

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Nah, you went from asking people for information and talking about how you didn't know much, to now acting like you understand complex balance.  It's weird.

 

Like I said before, it feels like early game was "feigned ignorance" from you.  Which would lead to your team feeding you info, thereby making your posts look drastically different from before.

[Verbal32]

Little over 4.5 hours before DL.  I'll try to be available on my phone while at my son's game.

[Gudrean]

  On 4/12/2025 at 3:56 PM, Zander? said:

 

See again your response to the second part sketches me out lolololol.   There's no way you would know in your first game what a balanced setup would be unless someone told you.  Ithis stated it's closed so she's not telling ANYONE ANYTHING about setup....so how do you know it's ridiculous.....????????

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I don't think it takes an expert at mafia to know that if one side has a role the other side will have roles that are balanced. why do you all keep insulting my intelligence like I can't learn from reading the stuff online and listening to what everyone says.

[seph]

  On 4/12/2025 at 3:40 PM, Zander? said:

 

Like I guess here's how I look at it. There's 5 remaining players.  Obviously you wouldn't effect you so that's 4 outta 5 that still could have.  I couldn't have because I didn't and don't have any other PR.  So that means 3 out of 5 players could have done something that affected your RB into not working.  3 outta 5 is 60%.  I know your counter argument.  Dice and Verb would a said they did.  BUT there's 2 Wolves remaining most likely and they aren't going to say anything because all the mech stuff is now just becoming unbelievable and WINFOMing mostly.  I don't care really what the percentage is unless it's 0% chance nothing did and that's impossible.  And I'm sure there's some factoring im missing that maybe lowers the 60% chance but I also don't KNOW for certain you're Town so to me that percentage at absolute best is 50%.  Now if Gud has been pretty universally Town read I might be more apt to accept it.  But the fact the Majority of players has her Wolf is too much for me to gamble mech clearing her on something at best is right and wrong equally.

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Zander, factors make it far less than 60% 

 

I'm simply not voting Gud here and I think we should look elsewhere. I don't want to lose the game based on some bad math, even if it is my math... though I think I'm right lol. I am going to go back through and post what you asked.

 

[Gudrean]

  On 4/12/2025 at 4:12 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

Nah, you went from asking people for information and talking about how you didn't know much, to now acting like you understand complex balance.  It's weird.

 

Like I said before, it feels like early game was "feigned ignorance" from you.  Which would lead to your team feeding you info, thereby making your posts look drastically different from before.

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It's weird that I'm able to learn from reading?  Mafia isn't Calculous! The fact that you keep trying to take away my accomplishments in learning how to play is demeaning.

[Zander?]

  On 4/12/2025 at 2:36 PM, seph said:

I think there is more speculation in trying to say my roleblock wouldn't hit because of X/Y 
Then, believing it worked when I can probably assume only GUD could have a role that could alter it at this point Zander.
 

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See I completely disagree irt to only Gud especially since there's another Wolf most likely.  And even more so since you believe she's town your conclusion should be Gud besides you and me is the most UNLIKELY to have the ability.  This is my issue with you and it's starting to feel like you may want , what you may perceive as the easiest person to have against you tomorrow..... LOLOLOLOLOL ....at least that's what the tinfoil in eating is starting to say.  But everything before that definitely true lol

[Verbal32]

  On 4/12/2025 at 5:02 PM, Gudrean said:

It's weird that I'm able to learn from reading?  Mafia isn't Calculous! The fact that you keep trying to take away my accomplishments in learning how to play is demeaning.

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That typically doesn’t take place within the span of a single game, though.

 

Also, the AtE is noted and denied.

[Zander?]

  On 4/12/2025 at 2:38 PM, dicetosser1 said:

course I did bro

 

the po box would work. They’d put a note in there if it don’t fit so you have to go in and pick it up

 

and can I just say… the keyboard player was the star of the show!

 

he was sooo into it.  It was like watching someone really air keyboard at home to their favs lol

I dont have a choice! There’s too many people who will lynch me on that weak crap. Or just for lols. And I’m sick to death of it

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Like I truly WANT YOU to be TOWN here brother!!

[Ithillian Turambar]

3 hours and 47 minutes till end of Day 3

[Gudrean]

  On 4/12/2025 at 5:07 PM, Verbal32 said:

That typically doesn’t take place within the span of a single game, though.

 

Also, the AtE is noted and denied.

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this isn't AtE this is you doubting my ability to learn. so if i can't learn throughout a single game then when, game 10, game 40, how long does it take me to catch on to the things you guys say ad nauseum

[Verbal32]

  On 4/12/2025 at 5:16 PM, Gudrean said:

this isn't AtE this is you doubting my ability to learn. so if i can't learn throughout a single game then when, game 10, game 40, how long does it take me to catch on to the things you guys say ad nauseum

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No, I just think you’re lying.  The progression of knowledge, to me, seems fake.  As if you’re getting fed information and not organically learning it.

 

And you claiming that I’m doubting your “ability to learn” is literally AtE.

 

It’s just gameplay, I think you’re lovely and intelligent………I just also think you’re lying here.  🙂