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[seph]

  On 4/1/2025 at 1:46 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

Pretty much, yeah.  Honestly, waiting for some flips to jumpstart my engagement.  I've always ramped up as the game goes on - just like I did last game.  Nothing new for me.

 

 

 

 

I'm one of those folks.  The easy way to read DPR:  don't bother on D1.  He can replicate his town game as scum easily at first - but like with all things, it gets more difficult to keep it up (giggity) the longer it goes on (also, giggity).

 

 

 

 

This is an excellent point.  I didn't have a read on you yet, but after this and the next handful of posts, I'm actually feeling pretty good with Turin.  That said, I still lean town on Key (I don't think she intended to imply).

 

 

 

 

This is a post I disagree with.  Zander does this all the time - you and I both know it's NAI for him.

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He never jumpstarted anything and has been coasting on his 3 reads? All game.

 

  On 4/3/2025 at 2:12 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

And this is the 2nd thing for me - I don't like this.  Thinking anybody that has a different POV than you is just likely to be scum is super rigid thinking.  Maybe it works for you, but it rubs me the wrong way.  Again, just my POV here.

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Ssorry, he disliked two.things about me lol. Me and Key read the game the same

 

  On 4/4/2025 at 4:04 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

Huh?

 

I assume this was supposed to say "I wanna win with the town", right?

 

If so, did Turin just spew himself 3rd party?  What am I missing here?

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  On 4/4/2025 at 4:08 PM, Verbal32 said:

Gonna put Turin against the ropes, here.  If 3p, we need to remove ASAP.  If I'm misinterpreting something, then I'm willing to listen and revise the impression I just got from that post.

 

Vote: Turin

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  On 4/4/2025 at 4:36 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

Disagree - town should be hunting everybody not town.  On D1, when it's the hardest to hit mafia, if a 3p spews themselves, town should lynch.  It's that simple.

 

lol that you think me voting you here means I'm scum

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  On 4/4/2025 at 4:46 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

You still haven't addressed the reason I voted - did you or did you not basically say you wanted to win with the town?

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  On 4/4/2025 at 4:58 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

If you really think my reaction was twisting, then I'm not sure what to tell ya, dude.

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Turin calling him out and I am pretty sure I said something here.

  On 4/4/2025 at 5:09 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

While technically true, town is hunting anybody they think is not functioning with the best interests of the town in mind.

 

I read your post as a 3p slip.  I see that as not being in the town's best interests, so I'm voting.  Simple as that.

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His excuse to jump.on the Turin wagon.

  On 4/4/2025 at 7:52 PM, Verbal32 said:

I think I can be around for EOD.  I'd rather not have random.org decide the lynch - 'wagonomics' works best when the players direct a specific lynch.

 

I started the day with 2 light scum reads (admittedly based off 1 post each), and added a sus on Turin based on his post I already mentioned previously.

 

Cass was in my middle pile of players I didn't have a definitive read on yet - I'm less comfortable going there, especially considering the other 2 players I am sus on are on that train.

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His eod post

  On 4/7/2025 at 5:01 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

Spec talk just muddies the waters, and historically IMO has not been useful unless the game is bastard and literally calls for it.

 

In normal games (like this) it typically does more harm than good.

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His spec post that literally says it's bad for the game, not early, but just in general.

 

[Zander?]

There's 2 Wolves Seph most likely. Hard pressed to think Turin tried a Gambit there with the Red peek as well.  Turin/Cas would be the balance as Town Informant to Mafia Messanger Seph if that's the part holding you up imho.

[Verbal32]

  On 4/10/2025 at 10:48 PM, seph said:

I want to hear from dice still.

Verb is one of the last two Wolves.

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is this because I sussed you early based on one post?  There’s an old term for that ….can’t recall it at the moment.

 

 

  On 4/10/2025 at 11:01 PM, seph said:

Day 2 he says alot to say nothing. The only time he says something relevant is when Hallia is L-1 and he posts a hammer. He avoided gameplay for most of the day dude. Go look at this...."I think he pokes with a I have this post of sephs which make him scum... cmon man he has been riding this since d1 page 8
 

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Got Lenlo with 1 post last game, feel decent I’ve done it again.  Especially because you keep harping on it.

[Zander?]

  On 4/10/2025 at 11:09 PM, seph said:

He never jumpstarted anything and has been coasting on his 3 reads? All game.

 

Ssorry, he disliked two.things about me lol. Me and Key read the game the same

 

 

 

 

 

Turin calling him out and I am pretty sure I said something here.

His excuse to jump.on the Turin wagon.

His eod post

His spec post that literally says it's bad for the game, not early, but just in general.

 

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Dude I 100% agree with his assessment of Turin 1.0

[Zander?]

  On 4/10/2025 at 11:12 PM, Zander? said:

 

Dude I 100% agree with his assessment of Turin 1.0

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Even his going after 3rd party Day 1 when pegging a Wolf is hardest.

[Zander?]

@seph

 

Ok you think he's a Wolf.

 

Whose the other and why.  And which Wolf that flipped is Verbal aligned with most likely iyo and what makes you feel that way?  I know your feelings on Verb.  Tell me which flipped Wolf he's with and why based on their interactions or something "his scummate" said.

 

 

Also did you see my post/point where I said Town Informant would be the balance to Mafia Messanger?

[Verbal32]

seph, where did I misrep Turin?

 

I felt pretty confident about going after him.  What did you not like about it?

[Verbal32]

@seph

 

sorry, meant to tag

[seph]

  On 4/10/2025 at 11:11 PM, Verbal32 said:

is this because I sussed you early based on one post?  There’s an old term for that ….can’t recall it at the moment.

 

 

 

Got Lenlo with 1 post last game, feel decent I’ve done it again.  Especially because you keep harping on it.

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How is never reassessing your reads, or engaging once we have actual flips like you stated you were going to done anything lol.

You have lied itt, only been beneficial in lynching a townie because you couldn't look past speculation, and now want to use it to clear yourself.

 

Dude if I'm a wolf I ignore you entirely, help lynch dice or gud and then try to play Zander if I make it to the last day.

 

I have 3 options to choose from, and your biggest thing is dpr was my neighbor lol. 

I doubt anything happens today with you but I want my thoughts known.

Your making me go down a tunnel again and I need a break... jesus

[Zander?]

  On 3/31/2025 at 2:02 PM, Gudrean said:

cause I said Dice was town?

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Another weird TMI esq post from Gud imho and dice alignment doesn't matter because he couldn't be on her Wolf team as we had 1 of each flip already.

 

  On 3/31/2025 at 2:09 PM, Zander? said:

 

See this again my point.  Posts for posting feels.  Again I'm sure Dice prolly likes the theme and stuff but Dice usually is pretty straightforward to the point was some stuff scattered in tho tbf it's early and very little game content but still .....lol maybe I need some more sleep but it's there and I can't shake it.  And j obviously don't think I pegged 2 or 3 Wolves off jump so I know wrong on some/all just wanted to bring it to attention when I'm dead and hopefully people will remember and look back if slots aren't resolved.

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My early Dice suss.

 

  On 3/31/2025 at 2:10 PM, Darthe said:

Hmm.  unvote, vote: Zander

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LOLOLOLOL 

 

 

 

  On 3/31/2025 at 2:13 PM, Zander? said:

 

Villagery AF

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Gonna lolololol if Verbs a Villa and I town read him based on a Spidey Meme....that's what I'm going with if he is and ofc if he's not this was obv a joke....lololololol

 

 

  On 3/31/2025 at 2:23 PM, Zander? said:

 

Gud's a beautiful lady homie ...lololololol

 

I usually get pinged by early easy town reads on me but you've done this so many times and were right I can't be arrested by it and imma call it NAI lolololol. 

 

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This is about Seph fwiw.

 

 

  On 3/31/2025 at 2:29 PM, Zander? said:

 

So you KNOW offing them would be a mistake????????????????

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Another weird feeling like Gud knowing people's alignments.

 

 

 

  On 3/31/2025 at 2:31 PM, Zander? said:

 

It implies you KNOW their alignments already which would only mean.....you'd be a Wolf....which means.....  💔 😭 💔 😭 

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See above quote and response.

 

 

  On 3/31/2025 at 2:36 PM, Zander? said:

 

Even if you're a Wolf I'll still be in your pocket when I lunch you ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ 

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Again I forgot how much I sussed Gud Day 1 lololololol 

 

  On 3/31/2025 at 2:43 PM, Zander? said:

@Ithillian Turambar

 

 

PLEASE CONFIRM USE OF CANNON x1 3 HIT SHOT VIG SHOT PLEASE PLAYERS NAME SUBMITTED IN PM

 

Well imma break this into gear real quick Town!!!!!!

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This idiot....lololololol

[seph]

  On 4/10/2025 at 11:15 PM, Zander? said:

@seph

 

Ok you think he's a Wolf.

 

Whose the other and why.  And which Wolf that flipped is Verbal aligned with most likely iyo and what makes you feel that way?  I know your feelings on Verb.  Tell me which flipped Wolf he's with and why based on their interactions or something "his scummate" said.

 

 

Also did you see my post/point where I said Town Informant would be the balance to Mafia Messanger?

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Okokok, new things to focus on. I will look into this all when I am back.

Darthe imo off the top of my head.  verb had his read placed and never really pushed it, darthe had his comments at the end of the day towards verb and looked like distancing.

 

I did not see that message, I forgot about the informant bit tbh since its not listed on page 1

 

I needed other focuses.... I will look into these after a game break

  On 4/10/2025 at 11:15 PM, Verbal32 said:

seph, where did I misrep Turin?

 

I felt pretty confident about going after him.  What did you not like about it?

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I posted my thought when you took how he phased something about the town and immediately went. Op 3p! Vote lol.

I can find my post l8er if you want

[Zander?]

  On 4/10/2025 at 11:25 PM, seph said:

Okokok, new things to focus on. I will look into this all when I am back.

Darthe imo off the top of my head.  verb had his read placed and never really pushed it, darthe had his comments at the end of the day towards verb and looked like distancing.

 

I did not see that message, I forgot about the informant bit tbh since its not listed on page 1

 

I needed other focuses.... I will look into these after a game break

I posted my thought when you took how he phased something about the town and immediately went. Op 3p! Vote lol.

I can find my post l8er if you want

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Whose the other Wolf and why is only part I don't see answered here homie.

[seph]

  On 4/10/2025 at 11:27 PM, Zander? said:

 

Whose the other Wolf and why is only part I don't see answered here homie.

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I told you that I needed other questions to focus on, I want to look into it before answering. I can shoot from the hip if you want me to. I gave a pretty detailed reads list not long ago

[seph]

I just spent awhile isoing verb, can a man get a break lol.
We have a whole other day don't we?

[seph]

  On 4/10/2025 at 11:12 PM, Zander? said:

 

Dude I 100% agree with his assessment of Turin 1.0

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This isn't very meaningful because Turin was town. It's nothing for a wolf to make valid points against a townie while playing poorly.

[Zander?]

  On 3/31/2025 at 2:45 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

I don't know if what you just said was English or Zanderese, but if I'm reading that right......shoot Darthe 3 times, please.

 

thx in advance

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Will admit Verb and Darthe have a weird back and forth Day 1 sussing eachother but doing nothing.

 

 

  On 3/31/2025 at 2:47 PM, Gudrean said:

I mean if I'm to assume quiet people are wolfy there's a few but it's only day 1 so it could just be that people are busy with life.

 

If I had to assume pushy people that would make Zander a prime suspect but that's a 💔

 

Turin tricked me last game and I said he had to be watched closely so he's gotta be on my sus list at least a little. 

 

Dice is too hard to read! period - plus he's always town it seems lol

 

Verb - so far has been Town

DPR - super nice - prolly town

Cass - *shrugs* feels townish

Seph - too sweet to be wolf, at least for now lol

Hallia - not seen yet

Cairos - wolf for sure - of wait he's not in this game

Darthe - funny - could go either way but cool for now

zander - maybe wolfy or maybe just zandering

Key - 30% sus but don't know her play style yet

Dice - see above

Turin - not trusting his biscuit buttering this game lol

 

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Her Turin reads baffles me cause she starts hard defending him soon enough....and how could ANYONE have DPR and Verb top Towny ATP and in hindsight knowing DPR was and my assumption on T/T neighbors as per setup this reeks of TMI....

 

 

  On 3/31/2025 at 2:50 PM, Darthe said:

O shiiiii verbs bringin the heat

 

 

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More of their suss with no actual push

 

 

  On 3/31/2025 at 2:53 PM, Gudrean said:

at this moment yes

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Darthe handling of Gud feels completely like a experienced Wolf handling an experienced one.  He suss her just enough and questions her to say well I did sus her if she flips Wolf but never actually pushing her.

 

 

  On 3/31/2025 at 2:54 PM, Zander? said:

 

Dpr has made like what 4-5 posts if that?!?!!!!

 

Gud you're worrying me...sadface.gid and if you're a Wolf you've either spewed Cass and Dice or just pulled a Top tier Wolf play on me FML lolololol 

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Interesting take lolololol too bad its applies still if she is because Dice could be on other Wolf team and she would assume ATP ofc he's Town.

 

 

  On 3/31/2025 at 2:55 PM, Darthe said:

Hmm.  I don’t see how.  Which post from DPR really sold you on him?

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More Darthe handling of Gud

 

 

  On 3/31/2025 at 2:59 PM, Gudrean said:

Nothing he said, just a feeling. I could be wrong and have been but he feels good right now. That could change.

 

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Her response to Darthe about DPR.  Fence sitty as well.

 

 

  On 3/31/2025 at 3:08 PM, Hallia said:

GM Beautifuls

 

 

I have read nothing

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Told she got easy to read after Day 1 lololololol

 

  On 3/31/2025 at 3:12 PM, Zander? said:

 

Hi Darthe

 

You a Wolf aren't you Boo

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I like this guy...he knows what's up lolololol

 

 

  On 3/31/2025 at 3:13 PM, Darthe said:

Yeah meant to put that in my scum chat.  You caught me ❤️ 

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Honesty is not dead lololololol

 

  On 3/31/2025 at 3:14 PM, Turin Turambar said:

Dice prolly still wants to vote him.

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Yes because he's maybe a Wolf LOLOLOLOLOL 

 

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[Zander?]

  On 4/10/2025 at 11:29 PM, seph said:

I told you that I needed other questions to focus on, I want to look into it before answering. I can shoot from the hip if you want me to. I gave a pretty detailed reads list not long ago

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Oh ok I thought I just missed it   you can do it which ever way you like.   Only thing I remember seeing was a WTL with Dice/Verb side by side iirc?

[Zander?]

  On 4/10/2025 at 11:30 PM, seph said:

I just spent awhile isoing verb, can a man get a break lol.
We have a whole other day don't we?

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I'm sick AF and using 113 pages lolololol...only WOLVES need rest imho.....

 

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Zander passes out 5 minutes later.... lololololol 

 

[Zander?]

  On 4/10/2025 at 11:44 PM, Zander? said:

 

I'm sick AF and using 113 pages lolololol...only WOLVES need rest imho.....

 

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Zander passes out 5 minutes later.... lololololol 

 

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ISOing not using LOLOLOLOL 

[seph]

If Dice is posting soon, I would like to wait.

[seph]

  On 4/10/2025 at 11:44 PM, Zander? said:

 

ISOing not using LOLOLOLOL 

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LMAO, I was about to say, I guess that's one way to ignore the sickness.
I am cool to hang out and chat on the front page, though I may go play schedule one/rocket league.

[seph]

I am testing something.
Verb is a wolf

[seph]

I feel like he always pops in when I say that lol

[Ithillian Turambar]

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[Gudrean]

  On 4/10/2025 at 1:49 PM, Verbal32 said:

@Zander?

 

Also, think about why I'd reveal this.  Neighbor is not a Mason, there's obviously a chance we could have been alternate alignments.  But if I was a mafia member, why is only 1 team represented here?  Why not 3, and have 1 member from both mafia teams and a townie?

 

Makes no sense, right?

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