Mary Poppins

[jsbrads]

Is Mary Poppins Black Ajah? Did she draw children into the dream world without their consent? By the end of the movie Mary murders a man. And Mary flies like the woman in Egwene’s first visit to Tarabon in the dream world. Also many of the other mechanics in Mary Poppins’ presence can only occur in the dream world. 

[wotfan4472]

Or, more likely she is the Doctor's wife

 

[jsbrads]

Who?

[wotfan4472]

Mary Poppins the original movie character was gifted by Verity Lambert because Walt Disney was a big fan of Doctor Who, and wanted to do a movie based on him.... Mary Poppins is the Doctor's wife and Susan's Grandmother. 

Of course, Walt went on to do Chitty Chitty Bang Bang using his male character inspired by the Doctor.

Edited March 28, 2019 by wotfan4472

[jsbrads]

None of this contradicts that Mary Poppins was Black Ajah and drew the children into the dream world. Nor does it excuse murder. 

[mb]

primary source for the Mary Poppins movies I take to be a set of books that are titled "Mary Poppins".  I do not remember the author.

 

I do not recall her killing anyone.

 

 

Light sided Aes Sedia can also kill; not just Black Ajah.

main difference would be killing with the One Power.  Light sided, only when life is threatened or anytime against Shadowspawn/Darkfriends; Black Ajah, anytime against anyone/anything.

 

Edited April 24, 2019 by mb

[jsbrads]

The old man who laughed himself to death. Supercalifragalistic was real compulsion she wove over his mind preventing him from stopping laughing. This too happened in the world of dreams. 

 

Black Ajah is known for drawing people into the world of dreams to control them, that is exactly what Mary Poppins did to the kids too.

 

Mary Poppins also is a time traveler and went to a square in Tarabon and flew, like she does, also hung out with the birds.

Edited April 22, 2019 by jsbrads

[mb]

as far as I recall, Mary Poppins did not have direct contact with the old man.

from my understanding, Compulsion requires direct contact.

 

world of dreams; going there seemed to be the children's idea.  and also Bart's.  not Mary's.

and she seemed to not attempt to control them.

 

time traveller; that seems doubtful to me.

 

 

Mary Poppins seems to be an ethical person.

[jsbrads]

Compulsion does not require contact.

Poppins does try to control the children, sugar and “medicine”. Trains the children to comply, they were rowdy. 

Everyone knows you can’t fly in the real world. The whole movie is in the world of dreams.

besides for what happened to the prior nannies and the old man... and bring the children and others into the world of dreams and multiple other behaviors, yes Mary Poppins wanted to get them on her side so she did. 

[mb]

now remember author's name; P L Travers, pseudonym of Helen Golf.

 

 

as far as I recall, Compulsion was never done through any indirect means anytime in this series.

 

my impression of Mary Poppins was that she tried to make the children ethical; not necessarily try to control them.

 

[DragonFairy]

You have to take into account that Mary Poppins was written in the 1930's. Children were expected to adhere to a particular code of conduct, including obeying those in position of authority over them. But she understood children, so she made unpleasant tasks easier, like making a game out of picking up their toys.

 

Today's children could use a Mary Poppins in their lives. Or maybe the parents...

Edited April 26, 2019 by DragonFairy

[jsbrads]

Moggy used compulsion without contact.

Verin used contact, the other black Ajah didn’t use contact. 

[mb]

as far as I recall, Moghedien was in close range of her Compulsion victims.

 

[jsbrads]

Ranged attack is still ranged attack.

It also seems that in the Age of Legends, they used different weaves which allowed super long range attacks (Rand mentions it when Sammael starts sniping him).

[wotfan4472]

Sammael's long range attack makes me feel that that is something only men can do?? I do not remember Hessalam getting that range, I know Demandred did in AMoL, when he kept flinging balefire in the Last Battle. It might be a balance to the bridge thing that Rand thought getting to that Sea Folk ship in Cairhein. The fact that women could make far longer bridges with saidar.

[jsbrads]

Nah, maybe men can channel further than women, but how far we the girls firing outside Cairhein? And that was without the special long reach mod.

Even healing and delving shouldn’t require touch, it is just how they always did it. I won’t deny that it is easier to be closer and easier to focus one’s mind while touching a subject, but it shouldn’t be necessary. 

[mb]

gotten the sequel (Mary Poppins Returns) days before my first post in this thread.

some chance that the old man did not die; and that the other bank directors were mistaken.

the sequel had a character that looked similar; that character mentioned several scenes from the first movie.

some chance of those two being the same character.

 

[wotfan4472]

That character could only be from the family that met her previously, unless a witness to them. If Julie Andrews is playing her character from the first film, then it seems to confirm my Doctor's wife theory. He has had past adventures with his other selves, like the 50th. He is the only character to do this in all of pop culture without multiverses being present in the background to explain it. Mary has to be travelling through Time, and had many adventures between films that we have not seen with different faces. Perhaps the books are those stories? 

[jsbrads]

Is Mary Poppins Returns canon? Or fan fiction?

[mb]

fan fiction or canon?  from looking at their respective Wikipedia pages, it seems that the same production company made both movies; so I take not fan fiction.

canon; all references to the original movie seem to be accurate.