RAGNAROK AVERTED - TOWN WINS (Including EP)

[Duk3star]

He has no reason to buff me if he’s mafia he just buffs a partner. 

[Duk3star]

Do we know how many mafia their are?

[Andrej]

5 minutes ago, Duk3star said:

Do we know how many mafia their are?

 

I would assume with 16 it would be 12/4 or something close to that.

 

but assuming anything seems stupid atp

[Andrej]

And there was mention of a SK being defeated so really I have no clue.

[bgrishinko]

Wait... So now you have EP 's ability, he has it as well, And you can continue to absorb more? 

 

That's a ridiculously powerful ability. 

[Duk3star]

3 minutes ago, bgrishinko said:

Wait... So now you have EP 's ability, he has it as well, And you can continue to absorb more? 

 

That's a ridiculously powerful ability. 

 

I have a one time use. 

 

Its also important for me to know somebody has a day ability because once per game I can copy that as well. 

[Duk3star]

6 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

I would assume with 16 it would be 12/4 or something close to that.

 

but assuming anything seems stupid atp

 

isnt the usual formal number of players - 1. 

[bgrishinko]

 Fits in with the hints and what EP assumed is Joat. . Also explains why nothing happened like he expected. Do you live if Vig hits you or do you absorb a one time use of that too? I could see a scenario in which a Doc protects you, Vig shoots you and now you have both of those as well. 

[bgrishinko]

I should say do you die with Vig or absorb it. 

[Gabriel Kross]

36 minutes ago, Duk3star said:

 

My abilirty isn’t shooting I see who visits me

in the night and I get the ability they targeted me with. Why’d you decide to buff me bud?

okay. unfortunate that I misunderstood your hinting. I buffed you because I thought you were claiming the ability to shoot (I realized partly through the night that JoAT was unlikely), and wanted you to have a guranteed kill on Sooh if you shot. If your ability is a perfect copy, I wonder what would happen if it were used on me... You should understand what I mean by that.

[Gabriel Kross]

for the record, if Sooh is not mafia she is our defeated pacifist SK, her vote restriction fits a "pacifist" logic. Either way Sooh doesn't flip town.

[bgrishinko]

6 minutes ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

for the record, if Sooh is not mafia she is our defeated pacifist SK, her vote restriction fits a "pacifist" logic. Either way Sooh doesn't flip town.

 

I'm willing to test that assumption tonight. I have an idea that might be able prove this. 

[Gabriel Kross]

1 minute ago, bgrishinko said:

 

I'm willing to test that assumption tonight. I have an idea that might be able prove this. 

but are we willing to trust you?

[bgrishinko]

Hopefully you can trust me. So long as I'm not roleblocked or redirected. I'd encourage watchers or trackers to verify who I target though to prove my action. 

[Duk3star]

33 minutes ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

okay. unfortunate that I misunderstood your hinting. I buffed you because I thought you were claiming the ability to shoot (I realized partly through the night that JoAT was unlikely), and wanted you to have a guranteed kill on Sooh if you shot. If your ability is a perfect copy, I wonder what would happen if it were used on me... You should understand what I mean by that.

 

To clarify, 

 

i only get the most basic of your ability so if there’s anything outside the buff Idk and you should keep it close to chest imo. 

[Duk3star]

I was hoping to be medic saved as that would be super powerful. 

[keyholder21]

Vote Count 2.5

 

BG: AJ

Kat: Lenlo, Ley, Sooh

Sooh: EP

 

Not voting (9/14): BG, Kat, Shad, Duke, Hally, DPR, Nyn, Eddie, Krak

 

 

 

Vote Count 2.1 | Vote Count 2.2 | Vote Count 2.3 | Vote Count 2.4

[Andrej]

More info to digest I suppose.

[Shad_]

4 hours ago, ed2funy said:

Agnarr died D1, DPR. Before Night started. He could not submit a Night Action while dead.  

 

I am not Agnarr.  

 

game is getting weirder

[Shad_]

Links to phase changes in the OP would be awesome.

 

Not trying to be a pain in the ass, just can't do a quick click to view all mod posts anymore.

[Shad_]

4 hours ago, DPR said:

 

Right, right - sorry - been a long day and I tipped a few back. I was confusing you with Ameg.

 

My apology. 

 

No I'm pretty sure he just claimed that the character who flipped as him was not his character or no longer is.

[Andrej]

Some of the revealed abilities are pretty OP.

 

makes me wonder what the Mafia team would have or if in fact we’re dealing with a bunch of solo wincons.

 

Duk3, I hate to say it but an absorbing ability like that would make perfect sense.

[Shad_]

4 hours ago, Leyrann said:

I realize I have been misunderstanding what EP was saying earlier, and he was making a mistake as well, which I guess double removes the reason for my vote, so I'm moving it back to Vote: Kat because I'm still happy with that one. As I said in my first post of the day, that redirect stinks. And yes we can WIFOM it. Everything can be WIFOMed.

 

Liking EP today, good to see Ed show up, unsure about Sooh, Hallia. I guess also liking AJ but need to pay more attention to him.

 

Maybe my memory is just being wonky but did you actually lay out a reason for your initial vote on EP?  Especially confused because I thought your vote came after most of his posts today?

[Shad_]

4 hours ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

Not normal at all, in a game with this many abilities a town roleblocker would be more detrimental to town than it would for mafia.

 

I mean, I can say from having probably played in a lot more recent games than you that it's perfectly normal these days.  Also negative utility roles are pretty normal in a game where the village is souped up to function as a counter balance.

 

That being said good luck gaming anything about this set-up without more flips on the table.

[Shad_]

4 hours ago, Sooh said:

No, I don't. 

Ugh I might as well say since so many roles are in play already. I have to vote within 24h of the day phase or I don't have a vote.

 

ok yeah we're not touching Sooh without a Kat flip