[Game Thread] Aspiring Tennis Enthusiasts, GRATS MAFIA

[Verbal32]

Mechanics is a tonne of wifom. If you want to consider it as part of a read then fine, but your lack of consideration of any game play is sketching me out :/

 

 

The problem is you are disregarding play over mechanical theories.

 

 

You're both making a large assumption, here (that I'm ignoring game play).  It gives me a sad.

[Andrej]

At the end of the day this is still a Mafia game. The setup allows for some cool strategizing but reads on individual slots shouldn’t be disregarded for guesses on what the scum team might or might not have done. Only they know the answer.

[Aquilla]

 

 

 

 

I still think the D1 matchups had the scum team.

What are your reads?

 

 

Mechanics have a TON to do with this game, so I'd rather discuss how people feel about choices made by the scum team.  That is how I've formed reads all game long.

 

 

 

 

 

I still think the D1 matchups had the scum team.

I think you’re wrong, flat out. It’s riskier D1 but the matchups are presumably easier than they would be D2. Getting both goons to potentially advance is better because you have more options for setting D2 versus only one.

 

 

How so?  You could just bring the lost goon back......

 

 

great minds think alike mate :)

 

 

Don't try to pocket me now, bro.

 

;-)

 

 

:P but seriously I was talking about mechanics a ton d2

[Andrej]

 

Mechanics is a tonne of wifom. If you want to consider it as part of a read then fine, but your lack of consideration of any game play is sketching me out :/

The problem is you are disregarding play over mechanical theories.

 

You're both making a large assumption, here (that I'm ignoring game play). It gives me a sad.

If that were the case I don’t think we’d even be having this discussion, dude. The answer is how D2 played out. Compare the brackets and the players within.

[BFG]

 

Mechanics is a tonne of wifom. If you want to consider it as part of a read then fine, but your lack of consideration of any game play is sketching me out :/

The problem is you are disregarding play over mechanical theories.

 

You're both making a large assumption, here (that I'm ignoring game play). It gives me a sad.

I'm asking you for reads and you're responding with mechanics. That's also been the focus of your talk since you've come back :(

[Verbal32]

At the end of the day this is still a Mafia game. The setup allows for some cool strategizing but reads on individual slots shouldn’t be disregarded for guesses on what the scum team might or might not have done. Only they know the answer.

 

C'mon man, you know that the unique setup here allows analysis of the matchups to help identify motives and how people react to the pairings.  This is a mafia game, but it plays out differently than most.

[Verbal32]

 

 

Mechanics is a tonne of wifom. If you want to consider it as part of a read then fine, but your lack of consideration of any game play is sketching me out :/

The problem is you are disregarding play over mechanical theories.

 

You're both making a large assumption, here (that I'm ignoring game play). It gives me a sad.

I'm asking you for reads and you're responding with mechanics. That's also been the focus of your talk since you've come back :(

 

 

Is it possible that I'm using BOTH to influence how I plan to vote today?  Is that a wrong way to go about it?

[BFG]

Argghhh

[Andrej]

I acknowledge that but it’s still a Mafia game so the basic rules apply. I know you’re having fun brain storming all the potentials the setup allows but gameplay is gameplay always.

[BFG]

I don't think scumverb comes in and slow plays like this, but deadline game :/

[BFG]

 

 

 

Mechanics is a tonne of wifom. If you want to consider it as part of a read then fine, but your lack of consideration of any game play is sketching me out :/

The problem is you are disregarding play over mechanical theories.

You're both making a large assumption, here (that I'm ignoring game play). It gives me a sad.

I'm asking you for reads and you're responding with mechanics. That's also been the focus of your talk since you've come back :(

Is it possible that I'm using BOTH to influence how I plan to vote today? Is that a wrong way to go about it?

I don't care if you use both, but there's no indication that you are and I can't read you off what you're not posting

[Aquilla]

I don't think scumverb comes in and slow plays like this, but deadline game :/

 

I agree with literally all of this lol

[Andrej]

This is pretty much F3 Verb and you’re holding the hammer.

 

Me or Aquilla?

[BFG]

This is pretty much F3 Verb and you’re holding the hammer.

 

Me or Aquilla?

Only if lzm shows up and god knows how he'll vote lol

[BFG]

 

I don't think scumverb comes in and slow plays like this, but deadline game :/

I agree with literally all of this lol

Ignore mechanics, what are your reads?

[Verbal32]

I don't think scumverb comes in and slow plays like this, but deadline game :/

 

Is that shade in my direction?  You think I'd pit myself against Nyn of all people D1?  When she's town, she's a damn glowing beacon of it....and we all know she'll out-work me every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

 

If I'm scum, I'm dumb.  I might be stupid, but I'm not dumb.  ;-)

 

If I'm symp, then it doesn't really matter, does it?  I'll vote with scum and that's that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mechanics is a tonne of wifom. If you want to consider it as part of a read then fine, but your lack of consideration of any game play is sketching me out :/

The problem is you are disregarding play over mechanical theories.

You're both making a large assumption, here (that I'm ignoring game play). It gives me a sad.

I'm asking you for reads and you're responding with mechanics. That's also been the focus of your talk since you've come back :(

Is it possible that I'm using BOTH to influence how I plan to vote today? Is that a wrong way to go about it?

I don't care if you use both, but there's no indication that you are and I can't read you off what you're not posting

 

 

Why do you need to read me?  You know I'm town at this point, everybody does.  There is literally no rational reason I could be scum.  Symp maybe, but then you still don't need to read me, right?

[Andrej]

Hypothetically then. I realize he’s not actually holding the hammer.

[Verbal32]

This is pretty much F3 Verb and you’re holding the hammer.

 

Me or Aquilla?

 

 

 

This is pretty much F3 Verb and you’re holding the hammer.

 

Me or Aquilla?

Only if lzm shows up and god knows how he'll vote lol

 

 

Exactly.  If LZM doesn't show up, the best I can do is 100% ensure scum win by tying the vote, or 100% ensure Aquilla wins by voting you.  I don't know either of your alignments, so tell me how I should vote if LZM doesn't show?

[Lenlo]

 

This is pretty much F3 Verb and you’re holding the hammer.

 

Me or Aquilla?

 

This is pretty much F3 Verb and you’re holding the hammer.

 

Me or Aquilla?

Only if lzm shows up and god knows how he'll vote lol

Exactly. If LZM doesn't show up, the best I can do is 100% ensure scum win by tying the vote, or 100% ensure Aquilla wins by voting you. I don't know either of your alignments, so tell me how I should vote if LZM doesn't show?

Flip a coin?

[Andrej]

It’s lose/lose either way if you vote me.

[Verbal32]

Question:  if I tie the vote and LZM does not vote, does scum win the tie in the Finals?

[Andrej]

Scum win all ties.

[BFG]

either I've solved the game or I haven't

[BFG]

 

This is pretty much F3 Verb and you’re holding the hammer.

 

Me or Aquilla?

 

This is pretty much F3 Verb and you’re holding the hammer.

 

Me or Aquilla?

Only if lzm shows up and god knows how he'll vote lol

Exactly. If LZM doesn't show up, the best I can do is 100% ensure scum win by tying the vote, or 100% ensure Aquilla wins by voting you. I don't know either of your alignments, so tell me how I should vote if LZM doesn't show?

Vote who you think is scum always

[Verbal32]

There is also a very real reason why I'm not showing my hand at this point.  The best way for me to figure out the right vote is to have everybody talking.  My alignment is not relevant.  If I'm scum or symp, the game is prob already over.  If I'm town, then I don't want to reveal which way I'm leaning.  I want as much discussion as possible before DL.