Suicide Squad

[Andrej]

I don't have an issue with Lenlo for the most part. I feel his tone is a lot different when he's scum and he's more inclined not to ruffle feathers

 

Darthe's a better lynch imo

[Gentled Ben]

 

I feel like Rand is playing his town game. I felt like Nyn was until the responses to the conversation around her self vote. At first, I thought AJ might be scum for pushing her so hard over it, but now that she has responded with one liners, I am not so sure.

 

Work with me, Nyn. Be more townie. I don't want to lynch you. Convince me not to.

 

Hallia, you did post a little bit in caps, and that could be considered shouting, although I felt like Lenlo overreacted to it a little bit, just like he overreacted to my early town reads. Maybe that's his style, or maybe he's nervous. I like that you're poking at him, because I can't be everywhere at once.

How exactly is rand playing his town game? Describe to me the differences of his town and scum game and what you're seeing this game that makes you lean town

 

I've only seen Rand play town, so I guess I might have phrased it better by saying, "Rand's game feels like it did the last two times, and those times, he was town," but instead, I said it felt like his town game. However, since then, I have noticed that he's not making reads like he has in the past. His posts have the same general feel as his town game posts did, but they seem to lack the same general content. I'm closer to null on him than town now, but it's not enough to vote yet.

 

Voting me AJ? Thats a bold move cotton, and your explanation doesn't cut it.

 

Sk pings me a lot in his (her?) Intro. I had a natural inclination towards sus of that slot because of how ben was acting over them earlier (and that whole triangle of ben nyn sk has something off in it), but the approach to the thread so far is just wolfy. Specifically right at the start with that weird half assed question to me about len and then the vote on me for emotionality(??). Those were around 15 I think, and are super contrived. The "u scum bro" at ben that came after could well be fake too, which leads me back to ben.

 

@Ben I want to kill you today because you're being very different this game in a way that looks similar to hallias wolf game. Youve ditched your fire in favor of these big walls of information which seems like scraps atm, and the one person youve defended the hardest shows up and looks like a wolf the first time they drop real content. Glgl on the response.

 

As an aside to all the above, Nyn you're getting all emo again, please dont. Its not fun, and AJ didnt do anything yet that was even close to personal.

 

Also, sooh said she is sick for rn so youre stuck with me.

This is a good post. This is all I wanted when we had that spat in our first game together. I'm not sure what you mean by ditching my fire. I'm usually not that fiery in mafia, and I haven't felt too wound up this game yet, but tone is hard to convey in writing. Maybe I sound one way in my head when posting, but to the reader, I sound another way entirely. Without knowing what fire you mean, I can't really respond to it. I give lots of info when I play. That is the same for town or wolf, but I like that you are looking for things like changes in tone. I know that you are playing even if you're popping in and out and your hydra is out sick (get well soon). I have no words for SK. I am getting a scum read on him now, too. It just looks how it looks. If you read me as scum because of it, I understand. Hopefully, that will change. I assume you try to be flexible in your reads, so I'll just agree that it looks bad and move on in the hope that I don't get mislynched for it.

 

[v]sk[/v]

 

I just feel like you're off. In the BT game you felt very proactive. You made moves to generate conversations and make people take stances. Despite not being a top poster you chose to put a lot of attention on yourself purposefully. And you deducted from it all. I actually really respected the way you played it out. You didnt really care that it might garner negative attention.

 

Looking at your content in this game so far it feels like you're only asking people what they meant or what their reads are. Not really feeling like you're digging in.

This is what I see too, at least the last couple of sentences. I totally didn't understand the play style from last game, but he was digging in, prying out info, sorting it, and making reads. Here, he is just chatting. It's great to clarify, but there's no follow up to it. He's participating after his lack of participation became an issue for him, but he's not playing. That's a little different than his initial scum game, but not by a whole lot. My joke vote turns serious now and stays where it is.

[Gentled Ben]

@ Nyn and  Hallia: I went to bed. I even posted a little bed gif

This might seem bizarre, crazy, or even wolfy, but I post less when I go to work and go to sleep. 

[RandA lThor]

 

 

 

I wrote this down earlier, actually.

 

And forever shame me post-game if I am ridiculously wrong:

 

Yolo scum team picks - some combo of Nyn/Darthe/Rand/SK

Porque?

 

Also, SK hasn't done much at all, is your reasoning for him just that he hasn't posted much? And I could see Darthe via my reasoning, but whats yours?

Tbf I wrote that earlier before we'd gotten into this dialogue.

 

Based on SK's play alone I have zero reason to scum read him unless I just wanted to push inactivity. The read is more dependent on Nyn being scum, and how she's handled him/how they interacted early on. His intro vote had a creepy vibe to it. And her linking Ben, who I think is town, to SK after voting him for what I see as weak reasons is sort of alarming. She said it's because of Ben's defense, which she rescinded, but if you read what evidence Ben was using to defend him with I thought it was pretty objective and not in a save-my-scumbro kinda way.

 

Darthe was more POE cause I don't feel anyone else is that scummy and he's playing in that way that makes him hard to read. Purposeful confusion.

 

 

My memory is s***, partially because I'm playing while trying to finish homework due at 11:59 tonight, can you remind me what you said about me?

 

And gotcha, SK is a dependent on Nyn kinda read.

 

And I see what you're saying on Darthe, although I personally think using POE right now is pretty garbage, there hasn't been enough done to get strong town reads on that many people.

 

 

For posterity, here's the post I'm about to edit.  I'm gonna change the first phrase to My memory is bad, got BFG's approval to edit

[Andrej]

Idk I feel like SK might've made some of the best reads all game. You're comparing a game where he was active to one he hasn't been, but the analysis was still there imo.

 

I hope I'm not just making an idiot of myself but I'm not going to vote him today

[Nynaeve]

VoteCountLenlo (1): HalliaSK (3): Ben, Nyn, SootheSoothe (2): SK, AJNot Voting (4): Lenlo, Marsh, Dice, Rand

Fyi not gonna be around at DL. It's 2 am for me and i have work tomorrow.

[Nynaeve]

None voters need to start taking stances

[Nynaeve]

Idk I feel like SK might've made some of the best reads all game. You're comparing a game where he was active to one he hasn't been, but the analysis was still there imo.

 

I hope I'm not just making an idiot of myself but I'm not going to vote him today

We're better off with competing trains anyhow. I'm not sold on darthe, you're not sold on SK. I am a little... concerned, i guess? That we seem to have a pretty different take of the game. But it could very easily not mean anything. It does make me less sure of my reads, though.

[Gentled Ben]

Idk I feel like SK might've made some of the best reads all game. You're comparing a game where he was active to one he hasn't been, but the analysis was still there imo.

 

I hope I'm not just making an idiot of myself but I'm not going to vote him today

Soft defense noted, and praising my defense of him earlier is also noted.

[Nynaeve]

I am hesitating irt SK because of him taking such a firm stance irt me. Where i feel he could have taken advantage of the situation. So that's giving me pause.

[Andrej]

 

Idk I feel like SK might've made some of the best reads all game. You're comparing a game where he was active to one he hasn't been, but the analysis was still there imo.

 

I hope I'm not just making an idiot of myself but I'm not going to vote him today

Soft defense noted, and praising my defense of him earlier is also noted.

Note away note taker

[Nynaeve]

Meh i dunno. This game is doing my head in

[Gentled Ben]

 

 

I just looked at SK's other two games here. Both games, he basically just checked in on day 1 (real day, not D! game day), then started playing seriously on day 2 (in real time, not D2), so this is consistent with what little meta there is on him so far. You (Nyn) also look like you have in each game I've played with you, but I haven't seen your wolf game yet. Maybe you are a tricksy hobbitses who hides the precious well. Maybe you are town like you were in the other games.

Idk where sk is from but here we play on D1, I wouldnt mind cracking this habit of bailing post check-in.

 

Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Does this deserve a vote? unless you mean a real life day 1. :^) Maybe the conversation being focused around me made you forget the other players in the game whomst have not posted. Although I am curious what you meant by cracking this habit. Pray tell.

 

[v] Darthe [/v]  overly emotional over someone who has not posted. Why?

 

Is this really that good of a read, that insightful of an analysis?

[Gentled Ben]

I am hesitating irt SK because of him taking such a firm stance irt me. Where i feel he could have taken advantage of the situation. So that's giving me pause.

I don't follow you here. What do you mean? I don't remember what stance he took. I missed all this, I guess.

[Nynaeve]

Maybe he's just whiteknighting me. He has been awfully mushy with me for no real reason.

[Andrej]

 

Idk I feel like SK might've made some of the best reads all game. You're comparing a game where he was active to one he hasn't been, but the analysis was still there imo.

 

I hope I'm not just making an idiot of myself but I'm not going to vote him today

We're better off with competing trains anyhow. I'm not sold on darthe, you're not sold on SK. I am a little... concerned, i guess? That we seem to have a pretty different take of the game. But it could very easily not mean anything. It does make me less sure of my reads, though.

Well one good thing is that people can't get NK'd so we'll get things sorted one way or another. It's D1, being perfect in our reads isn't and shouldn't be expected.

[Nynaeve]

 

I am hesitating irt SK because of him taking such a firm stance irt me. Where i feel he could have taken advantage of the situation. So that's giving me pause.

I don't follow you here. What do you mean? I don't remember what stance he took. I missed all this, I guess.

Following my self vote he shot down the idea of lynching me.

[Gentled Ben]

True, they only get one kill, but coupled with a mislynch, that could put us on our heels. 

[Gentled Ben]

 

 

I am hesitating irt SK because of him taking such a firm stance irt me. Where i feel he could have taken advantage of the situation. So that's giving me pause.

I don't follow you here. What do you mean? I don't remember what stance he took. I missed all this, I guess.

Following my self vote he shot down the idea of lynching me.

 

Ah, yes. He said "No," and I agree. You should not have had your way for being sulky. I'm glad you're feeling better today. Yeah, that was townie of him, assuming you're town. 

[Andrej]

You're missing other points I thought were good, Ben.

 

Like his point on Rand not doing reaction tests the previous games. Or Darthe's point of specifically claiming no read on Hallia and labeling that as a read.

 

TBH I might just sheep him because I think he might've nailed it already and you guys wanna lynch him because he's not acting a fool and making fake CCs lol

[Gentled Ben]

Well, you both want to lynch Darthe, so there's that to elevate his reads in your eyes, and I understand that. That was a strange post from Darthe. Rand casts around random votes in each game, does he not? Pretty much everyone does at the start. I didn't see an issue with the shrug, as I figured the vote was just a random vote, and Rand was transparent about it when questioned, but the Darthe post is a good point.

[Gentled Ben]

I would be open to switching my vote to tie trains if several people agreed that would be useful, but switching now would only switch trains, and I feel stronger about SK than Darthe. Darthe had me feeling like there was something off with him early on, and Sooh not posting was not helping, but his last post in which he explained his vote on me actually has me leaning more town on him, even though I disagree with his vote. Of course, wolves make good townie mislynch cases all the time, but my gut feeling was that he was being weird at the start like he often is, and then started buckling down playing, and the play feels town to me, but that's only one post.

[Nynaeve]

You're missing other points I thought were good, Ben.

 

Like his point on Rand not doing reaction tests the previous games. Or Darthe's point of specifically claiming no read on Hallia and labeling that as a read.

 

TBH I might just sheep him because I think he might've nailed it already and you guys wanna lynch him because he's not acting a fool and making fake CCs lol

 

I'll willing to switch to Rand. 

[Nynaeve]

screw it

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Rand[/v]

[Nynaeve]

SK was on fire in the BT game irt his reads, so if he's town this game he's definitely an asset. I'm willing to give him another day to see if he warms up properly. And if rand flips scum then it's an overall good look for him.... even though he didn't actually vote there, which kinda bugged me. But if I recall he did name darthe and rand as his top scum reads and he only has one vote so... yeah.