Sailor Moon Mafia [Advanced] Game Thread

[Spadeszee]

Good luck to the newcomers catching up!

 

 

Thank you both and we all look forward to see what you bring to the table <3

[Spadeszee]

 

 

sup

Sup! Welcome back. Sorry for all the spam you have to read through. 

 

hey

 

no problem

 

You been busy or something? Would like to know if you've been reading the thread at all or what's up with your absence.

[Cuth]

 

 

 

sup

Sup! Welcome back. Sorry for all the spam you have to read through. 

 

hey

 

no problem

 

You been busy or something? Would like to know if you've been reading the thread at all or what's up with your absence.

 

yes, yes, yes

 

i'm around 40? right now

 

was reading but just

 

i guess too lazy to post here, was very little actual substance, didn't have any clear reads, mild headache

 

also keep forgetting about it

[Fleeing Coward]

 

Fredwood clearly a scummy sub. Should lynch him while we can.

wolfy popin

 

obvscum

 

In that case you'll like what I'm going to do next even more.

 

*wolfy popout*

[Spadeszee]

 

 

 

 

sup

Sup! Welcome back. Sorry for all the spam you have to read through. 

 

hey

 

no problem

 

You been busy or something? Would like to know if you've been reading the thread at all or what's up with your absence.

 

yes, yes, yes

 

i'm around 40? right now

 

was reading but just

 

i guess too lazy to post here, was very little actual substance, didn't have any clear reads, mild headache

 

also keep forgetting about it

 

Is that normal for you? Or is it just this game in particular? 

 

Once you are caught up, could you try to make a reads list? Also who do you have experience playing with in this game?

[Cuth]

 

 

Fredwood clearly a scummy sub. Should lynch him while we can.

wolfy popin

 

obvscum

 

In that case you'll like what I'm going to do next even more.

 

*wolfy popout*

 

it's okay i've already peeked you scum n0 it's not like you have to try anyway

 

hope you appreciate <3

[csarmi]

Welcome new peoples. I'm the co-mod.

[Cuth]

not going to make readslist no

 

will probably give a couple of reads or vote or something

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

Youve only played 3 games you said, have you read any others?

 

Who have you played with before that are currently in this game and what alignments have you seen these people play?

 

• Cordyx-  You feel confident that you know Cory's Town game?  You dont think he could do the Bolded as Scum!Cory?  So Im guessing your read on them is Null to slightly Town?
• Describe what you think Eld's Town and Scum games look like for me please?  I wanna see where youre trying to draw your baseline from.
• I tunnel as both alignments so thats Null.  Cory asked me to give you some space so I will for now.  Ill leave my issues to the side for now and just move forward and will see if I need to go back and pursue or drop that particular issue.  

Gonna wait till you answer my top questions first I suppose before i go into too many reads list questions my dear.

 

I haven't spectated or read any games I wasn't in (I did answer this question earlier)

 

I've played with Bop and Cory in a Hydra game (Cory subbed out of that game after D1) Both of them were V. Last game I played had Eldrick and Darthe in it. Eldrick was V, Darthe was W.

 

I do not feel confident about Cory, but I have a decent idea just from what I've seen/heard about his play. Bop is also experience with him so I have a second perspective point. With him asking you to back off and generally keeping things light, it feels very similar to his Hydra game. It will take some time, though. I also added that he's a very experience player, and he told me himself he didn't mind playing wolf and had no problems with faking villager in that role.

 

I've only seen Eldrick as town, and with that he was just so all over the place. He made points that didn't seem logical (some did but most had me scratching my head all game). I have no idea what his wolf game would look like, but right now I'm getting very lack luster content from him. It could be that it's early and nobody has pinged him yet, but as of right now I am weary that he's not standing out more.

 

I have never played with you, and as much as I would like to trust your word/others, I have to follow your actions. Everyone else is town reading you, but I can't just lock you clear because you're following your meta. Understand I am skeptical of literally everyone but Linz. 

 

 

I dunno man some of your reads dont make much sense then with your responses here.  Like theyre based on having a fair bot of exp/Meta and a decent baseline to formulate these from.  Like there assumptive but without the stuff I mentioned it dont seem to add as on organic read to me.  Im also pretty high so maybe its just me?!?!?!!?

 

lololololol

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nothing I say is ever good enough for you, I can't be anything but myself. 

 

Do what you gotta do~

 

 

 

Not what I said but ok.

[Spadeszee]

Sorry for the flood of questions, but it's time to try to pick your brain a bit.

 

[Cuth]

[v]ironeyes[/v]

[Ironeyes]

 

 

 

How the heck does that fail to make sense to you? I didn't have anything good to read her on, but when you laid out the explanation for why she reacted to Ted's claim the way she did, it made sense to me and made me think she must be town. So I moved her up the list. 

 

Where is the inconsistency in that? 

 

 

It's not that you moved her up.  That's to be expected.  It's your placement I have an issue with.

 

I get not having her beneath yourself.  I get not having her beneath the person that is moderator-confirmed town.  But if you feel THAT strongly about it, I don't get having another townread over her (unless you have something incredibly substantial for them that I've missed?), and I don't get putting her where you did in terms of categories.

 

I don't see much of a difference between this: 

 

Spadebop 

Sooh

Cordyx

 

and this: 

 

Spadebop

Sooh

Cordyx

 

since the order is what matters. And the reason she's below Spadebop is because I'm more confident in my read on Spades, which was made under my own power and by my own observation, than in my read on Sooh, which was made with your influence. Even though I'm town reading you I can't rule out the possibility that I'm wrong and you're manipulating me. 

 

 

I still wanna know what changed in that like 30-45 mins from Sooh that changed your read.   Please show the quotes and explain?

It was Chris's explanation of her reaction to Ted's fake claim, as I said further up in this very quote. 

 

[v]ironeyes[/v]

Please explain?

[Hallia]

Play well kiddies, see you all in the morning <3

[Zander?]

 

 

Zander, Serious question for you. If Bop hadn't come out with his penny's a wolf because she subbed out comment (be it a joke or otherwise) how would you be reading them?

 

Null at best.  Maybe Im stuck in the Tunnel and Ill ef be trying to ISO again before DL and try to go abck over it with a clear mind if possible.

 

Honestly, I think you're stuck in a tunnel. I think it's some thing we can always come back to in later phases.  I think the more you hone in on it the less likely you are to convince anyone else of it and you're just going to frustrate yourself over it. I don't know that you'd have ever honed in on them with out the whole Penny subbing out ordeal.  I'm going to go back and do a reread soonish and really look at it, and once I do that I'll answer your question you had for me.

 

 

I could very well be, its happened before and it will happen again. 

 

Ive not brought it up in awhile.  Ill give them some space and just comment on new stuffs.

 

And ok look forward to hearing what you come back with.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

I think there's a realistic chance that Spades is just a villager who got a bit startled

 

Most of their input besides a couple things has been positive and they are pretty good through ~18 or so

When was I startled? 

 

 

Specifically the conversation between you and Sooh early. That was the hardest thiing for me to parse; I like your content past that.

 

 

 

It was the first semi game related thing to really be said and it changed the mood of the thread. My intention wasn't to put pressure on her, but it happens. I think we both know what it's like to have something taken too seriously and someone reacting to it in a way you didn't expect. I don't know Sooh very well and I didn't really want her to get a bad impression (ie; me being really aggressive) of me as a person.

At this point I'm really glad it did get the ball rolling in a way, so I'm kinda happy it was taken seriously. What can you do? 

 

*snuggles Spades*

 

What happens in game, stays in the game. You're allowed to push me, call me scum or mafia or say that my reads or approach is bad. It's fine. It doesn't reflect on you what so ever!

 

I mean, I still adore Z, though he drives me up a wall sometimes

 

 

m u s t   s t o p    l u r k i n g

 

 

What are big brothers for!?!?!?!?!?!

 

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3

 

You can be a slight Villa lean Soohray....why you ask....because youre lurking.....lolololololol

[Cuth]

marsh: i think you're scum?

[Zander?]

 

 

I'm with you on the tone. I can't really pinpoint what it is but he just seems... shady? I'm glad I'm not the only one picking up some weird funk from him.

 

 

 

 

 

But I feel like I'm not qualified to even try to read someone like Darthe. 

 

 

Wow you are like on a totally wave length with a lot of players.

 

Youve agrees a lof with what others are saying.

 

I had said this in my read of Darthe before this was posted.

 

 

theres been a few instances but ok.

[Ironeyes]

marsh: i think you're scum?

...and? Why am I scum

[Cuth]

specifically the way you're going about this game as opposed to the town/scum games i've played with you

 

tonal differences

 

/shrug

 

seeing things that remind me of things that bothered me when we were w/w

[Cuth]

leave this here while i catch up

 

i have seen as of yet no reason to believe cory or spades slots are wolves, and lean towards both being town

[Ironeyes]

K, tone read. That helps. Not all that descriptive, but it's something. 

[Cuth]

K, tone read. That helps. Not all that descriptive, but it's something. 

again, it's the way you go about stuff

 

and given how late it is i might be making this up

 

but i still agree with Cuth From 30 Hours Ago so i feel a bit better about it

[Cuth]

i have been

 

seriously underwhelmed by scruff's posts 

 

haven't read them in a while

 

but the first one was alright excusable whatever not as bad as people made it out to be

 

the follow up was

 

kinda less impressive?

 

don't really want to lynch him d1 on a new site, but wouldn't be starkly opposed to it from what i've read

[Spadeszee]

 

 

 

 

Not what I said but ok.

 

I've played 2 games previous to this one. How much experience should I have picked up from only 2 games? 

 

I try really hard to keep up when I play this game. I try really hard to understand why people do what they do. Now if I had played multiple games and have both a wolf and a village game to reference maybe I would be able to use the "meta" for these players more accurately. I only have one game for each of them. You're pressing me to what? Be confident about reads day one? All I can give you is the gut feelings and observations I try to make. Everyone here has so much more experience with this game than I do, it's really overwhelming but I try my best. And I'm not trying to use my experience as an excuse, but honestly I think relying on meta is garbage for me personally. I can try to cross-reference but I still have so much doubt. Call it an inconsistency or read what I write more carefully.

 

If you don't like my answers, you don't like them. I'm not changing them for you. I will try to explain myself to help you understand why I stand where I do. But literally everything I say is bad to you, it's never enough. I don't care if you think I'm a wolf, but your reasoning for picking me out of the crowd doesn't seem productive. I know my alignment and watching you waste your time on me is more frustrating than your questions themselves (Or all the !!!!!! :P).

 

You really stress me out, you're so intense with me and I don't understand why. I really do think you're a villager stuck, and I don't know how to help you move on so we can find the wolves.

 

Help me help you.

[Spadeszee]

specifically the way you're going about this game as opposed to the town/scum games i've played with you

 

tonal differences

 

/shrug

 

seeing things that remind me of things that bothered me when we were w/w

Would really appreciate some quotes to flush this out for everyone else.