Sailor Moon Mafia [Advanced] Game Thread

[Zander?]

Zander, I'm really hoping we can find a way to clear each other so we can work on the rest. You're the only one here I can confidently read, and that's so friggin daunting.

 

Im nto sold on you yet either.

 

So you flip the switch, and i will too....i was gonna try to play it more lax but F*@k that....I need to #FULLZANDER TO FIND WOLVES!!!!

 

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

 

but no ill try to find the happy medium...lolololol

 

 

 

 

That Scruff vote was awful and his reasoning too, but does Scum just come and draw that kind of negative attention to themselves?

It could happen. Who we talking bout?

Um....scruff?

 

 

 

And yes. Sometimes scum does that. Sometimes scum does what everybody expects scum to not do because it's clearing.

 

Correct,

 

And yes I know they do, its just certainly not taking the path of least resistance and no one besides like i think 1 person said they knew him/her (sooh iirc)

and thats a ballsy Scum move to play for sure....unless ofc you 2 are w/w and its early distancing.....

[Cory Caboose]

She was indeed. And she was solving all of D1. And she got lynched because "This person could be a deepwolf guize! She could be fooling us!"

 

Still rolling my eyes about that Champs game tbh.

 

Do not forget the principle of villa envy

 

I have a theory as to why this tends to happen (active villagers who have strong reads in-game being lynch targets)

 

I call it "villa envy".

 

Now thanks to the wonders of variance, everyone gets to be a different role all the time and all of our reads fluctuate from accurate to sub-optimal on a sporadic basis to form a chaotic sort of biorhythm, each of which is unique. Finely tuned, we are able to find where other people are on their own personal biorhythm, though it's mostly processed in our subconscious.

 

Sometimes when we see a villager who is "peaking", we get internally jealous that they have risen above for the moment. That jealousy processes in the conscious mind as a "negative" vibe, and usually leads to other villagers wolfreading that player.

 

[Cory Caboose]

 

 

 

sooh & mmmspades look OK but that is seriously razor thin and i reserve my right to 180 on a moment's notice

 

i have basically nothing else besides the obvious :P

Mildly agree on Sooh, though there's no real reason for it. Mmmspades? maybe. I've got conflicting vibes on trying to read them this early. How many games has Spades played?

 

 

this is spades 3rd game i think

 

I do not trust myself to read her without any bias, but I should be reasonable at reading bop and he seems fine enough so far

 

Yup, number three! feeling pretty good right now but nowhere close to being able to read anyone.

I have a feeling I'm going to think Eldrick is a wolf all game again xD

 

Did you have any thoughts about Eldrick at this point? IE were there any posts that rubbed you the wrong way, or just making a generality based on a previous game?

[bopolis]

 

I'm just going to read Spades as if I were reading Tress

 

Im a genius

 

Update: I really need to dig through Spades villager games just to get a better sense of her approach. This isn't really going to cut it. Trying to decipher Spades on stress level is probably a futile process

 

 

i find this weird since you were a hydra with her in her last game(her 2nd game ever) and from what I hear you helped walk her through it

[Spadeszee]

 

 

 

 

sooh & mmmspades look OK but that is seriously razor thin and i reserve my right to 180 on a moment's notice

 

i have basically nothing else besides the obvious :P

Mildly agree on Sooh, though there's no real reason for it. Mmmspades? maybe. I've got conflicting vibes on trying to read them this early. How many games has Spades played?

 

 

this is spades 3rd game i think

 

I do not trust myself to read her without any bias, but I should be reasonable at reading bop and he seems fine enough so far

 

Yup, number three! feeling pretty good right now but nowhere close to being able to read anyone.

I have a feeling I'm going to think Eldrick is a wolf all game again xD

 

Did you have any thoughts about Eldrick at this point? IE were there any posts that rubbed you the wrong way, or just making a generality based on a previous game?

 

I'll quote my from my reads list because nothing had changed since then

 

Eldrick- Last game I read Eldrick as a wolf all game long. I’m not getting those vibes from him. My main issue for this is that he is agreeing with most of what I’m saying, I’m not sure if it’s because we’re on the same page or if he doesn’t want the heat I consistently gave him last game. Laying low or something like that. I will clarify in saying he was a villager last game but didn’t do anything to prevent a potential mislynch on himself multiple times. Last game he seemed to be pretty bold and had his own really interesting ideas, I’m not seeing that from him this match. I’m keeping him neutral for now

 

Nothing has stood out and my issue with that is he seems to just be cruising along. You told me he always has an interesting perspective and angle to things and I haven't seen any really original content from him yet. I'm not going to condemn him for this, but it does worry me. What do you think of his play so far?

[Cory Caboose]

 

I'll work on giving you reasons to townread me now that we're getting down to the nitty gritty.

Shouldn't you be more worried about who you're reading and why? :thinking:

 

If you are town, then you are town. EZPZ

 

 

good

 

 

 

I'll work on giving you reasons to townread me now that we're getting down to the nitty gritty.

Shouldn't you be more worried about who you're reading and why? :thinking:

 

If you are town, then you are town. EZPZ

 

Aren't you reaching a little bit?

 

Literally what I mean by giving people reason to townread me is that I'm going to read people and explain what I see. What did you think I was going to do? What Awaclus asked me?

 

 

good

 

 

 

 

I'll work on giving you reasons to townread me now that we're getting down to the nitty gritty.

Shouldn't you be more worried about who you're reading and why? :thinking:

 

If you are town, then you are town. EZPZ

 

Aren't you reaching a little bit?

 

Literally what I mean by giving people reason to townread me is that I'm going to read people and explain what I see. What did you think I was going to do? What Awaclus asked me?

 

I was teasing :P

 

 

not good

 

 

 

 

 

I'll work on giving you reasons to townread me now that we're getting down to the nitty gritty.

Shouldn't you be more worried about who you're reading and why? :thinking:

 

If you are town, then you are town. EZPZ

 

Aren't you reaching a little bit?

 

Literally what I mean by giving people reason to townread me is that I'm going to read people and explain what I see. What did you think I was going to do? What Awaclus asked me?

 

I was teasing :P

 

Didn't read like teasing to me.

 

 

good

 

:/

[Spadeszee]

 

 

I'm just going to read Spades as if I were reading Tress

 

Im a genius

 

Update: I really need to dig through Spades villager games just to get a better sense of her approach. This isn't really going to cut it. Trying to decipher Spades on stress level is probably a futile process

 

 

i find this weird since you were a hydra with her in her last game(her 2nd game ever) and from what I hear you helped walk her through it

 

He was my mentor, so following the game giving me advice the whole way.

[Cory Caboose]

Nothing has stood out and my issue with that is he seems to just be cruising along. You told me he always has an interesting perspective and angle to things and I haven't seen any really original content from him yet. I'm not going to condemn him for this, but it does worry me. What do you think of his play so far?

 

I thought his intro was fine and liked #146 for more internal reasons, still on page 10 lol

 

Was asking you more how you felt at the time of that post, as that was relatively early in the game, before Eldrick had much game specific content

[Zander?]

 

Alright, I've had enough time to get opinions on most players.

 

• Cory/Clov- Really unsure of these two. Cory is showing his village game by trying to step in a keep everyone calm and relaxed. Now that he’s free to devote more time to this, I’m excited to see what he’s going to contribute. Chris is about as Chris as I expect Chris to play. Probably going to rely on Bop to help me with a clearer read on him. So far every feels OKAY about these two and I’m not really getting bad vibes so far. But, they are both very experienced players and I can see them fooling all of us.

 

• Sooh- Seems to be very confident in herself this game, bold and not willing to take anyone's nonsense. Getting more of a villager read from her, but that won’t stop me from questioning her actions. When I do question she responds quickly and passionately and I really like that. Her actions don't seem to have alternate motives.

 

• Eldrick- Last game I read Eldrick as a wolf all game long. I’m not getting those vibes from him. My main issue for this is that he is agreeing with most of what I’m saying, I’m not sure if it’s because we’re on the same page or if he doesn’t want the heat I consistently gave him last game. Laying low or something like that. I will clarify in saying he was a villager last game but didn’t do anything to prevent a potential mislynch on himself multiple times. Last game he seemed to be pretty bold and had his own really interesting ideas, I’m not seeing that from him this match so far. I’m keeping him neutral for now.

 

• Zander- Right now I am worried about tunneling. There is a lot of content between our last conversation and now and he’s had zero input on any of it, just tipping back to having to back off from us. Maybe he’s just really confident that he found a wolf in us, or just frustrated nobody took to his side. I’m hoping to see him look into more people than just us to show he’s trying to solve this game, not just prove a narrative he’s stuck on. Everyone is Town reading him, but until I see him doing some actual work to help progress this game I have to put him in neutral.

 

• Cuthalion- Not looking hot for Cuth. Cory said he was busy, but I would really like to hear it from him, not just word of mouth. (Who knows, it could have been in wolf chat :P) Zero content, but we still have another day, so we’ll see. Neutral with easy wolf tilt if we see nothing.

 

• Linz-  Clear and really helping me a lot this game, thank you for answering my questions! <3

 

• Darth- No idea with Darth. I will say he seems to be playing differently from the last game I was in, where he was a wolf, but that doesn’t give me much confidence considering Cory was sure last game was his Town play xD I see him making some content and comments, but nothing really stands out to me. I don’t get a genuine vibe from him so much, but I could be reading into nothing. Going to have to be Neutral for now.

 

• Ted Bundy- This guy kinda popped in, stirred the pot then left. Nothing from him today, no reads or thoughts of any kind. Got a bad feelings about this one so he has a wolf tilt from me for lack of game solving, care or involvement.

 

• Ironeyes-  Seems to be trying to catch up, now I hope that they start to really interact with everyone and don’t just read the thread, make a few responses and then leave. I see them focusing on Scruffington a little (which may be an easy deflection to divert attention away from them) None of which really contributed in my opinion. I don’t really have a read on them yet, hope they become much more active tonight and tomorrow. Not enough to lean either way for me so I only have neutral.

 

• Aquilla- Where did you go? You posted a tiny bit then left? I don’t know if maybe they forgot about the game or what? They seemed slightly enthused about playing so I’m really unsure as to why they would just leave without any explanation. I kinda want a wolf tilt on this one just because I’ve been told inactive wolfs do this sometimes. Maybe I’m wrong. I just don’t like it.

 

• Scruffington- I really want to wait for Scruffington to come back and make some responses and answer a few questions before I try to determine alignment. Right now it reads bad that they had a finger pointed at them and left when it got a little hot. I can only really base my thoughts off how I respond to heat in that I generally don’t care, my job is to find wolfs not prove myself a villager, but I also don’t act without an amount of conviction. The random vote stands out because they have contributed nothing else.

 

 

 

Youve only played 3 games you said, have you read any others?

 

Who have you played with before that are currently in this game and what alignments have you seen these people play?

 

• Cordyx-  You feel confident that you know Cory's Town game?  You dont think he could do the Bolded as Scum!Cory?  So Im guessing your read on them is Null to slightly Town?
• Describe what you think Eld's Town and Scum games look like for me please?  I wanna see where youre trying to draw your baseline from.
• I tunnel as both alignments so thats Null.  Cory asked me to give you some space so I will for now.  Ill leave my issues to the side for now and just move forward and will see if I need to go back and pursue or drop that particular issue.  

Gonna wait till you answer my top questions first I suppose before i go into too many reads list questions my dear.

[Cory Caboose]

 

 

 

I'm just going to read Spades as if I were reading Tress

 

Im a genius

 

Update: I really need to dig through Spades villager games just to get a better sense of her approach. This isn't really going to cut it. Trying to decipher Spades on stress level is probably a futile process

 

 

i find this weird since you were a hydra with her in her last game(her 2nd game ever) and from what I hear you helped walk her through it

 

He was my mentor, so following the game giving me advice the whole way.

 

 

Never seen her wolf game, that's what actually matters

I have some understanding of how she'd approach as a villager, but what would be different about her wolf game? She's someone who I imagine would try her best in either role.

[Spadeszee]

 

Nothing has stood out and my issue with that is he seems to just be cruising along. You told me he always has an interesting perspective and angle to things and I haven't seen any really original content from him yet. I'm not going to condemn him for this, but it does worry me. What do you think of his play so far?

 

I thought his intro was fine and liked #146 for more internal reasons, still on page 10 lol

 

Was asking you more how you felt at the time of that post, as that was relatively early in the game, before Eldrick had much game specific content

 

Ah, it was way too early in the game to make any judgments. I think at that time we were all just doing banter and joking around, it takes me ages to really figure people out and banter is really difficult to sort through and not a place where I would want to come to conclusions.

[Spadeszee]

 

 

 

 

I'm just going to read Spades as if I were reading Tress

 

Im a genius

 

Update: I really need to dig through Spades villager games just to get a better sense of her approach. This isn't really going to cut it. Trying to decipher Spades on stress level is probably a futile process

 

 

i find this weird since you were a hydra with her in her last game(her 2nd game ever) and from what I hear you helped walk her through it

 

He was my mentor, so following the game giving me advice the whole way.

 

 

Never seen her wolf game, that's what actually matters

I have some understanding of how she'd approach as a villager, but what would be different about her wolf game? She's someone who I imagine would try her best in either role.

 

I'm not too worried, I think Cory will figure me out sooner rather than later <3

[Cory Caboose]

Spades has a competitive spirit. That's one of the reasons I have that association with Tress really; Tress hates being mafia (I imagine Spades would probably not enjoy it much either, especially against me lol) but she still gives it a sincere effort when she does. It just tends to be a lot more stressful. The other is just... Meyers-Briggs lolcory nonsense

 

I don't think I can really read Spades that way, because the village games I've seen from her, she was pretty stressed out by it.

 

Does that make any sense?

[Zander?]

/inb4 "why are you asking her permission Chris"

 

chris asking permission is Wolfy AF.....lololololol

 

 

 

listies listies i can do listies too! (each group in no particular order)

 

VVV

mrsclov

 

v-lean

sooh

eld

 

kinda v-lean

cory/clov

iron

darthe

 

no idea but y'all seem to be cool with him

Zander

 

the rest

ted bundy

cuth

aquilla

scruff

 

Do you find that your PoE feels really too easy?

 

I mean it could very well be but games usually arent that easy....lol

 

Of your v and kinda v leans, if youre wrong on someone who is most likely that person and why?

[Cory Caboose]

Through ten pages:

Sooh
Eldrick
 

[bopolis]

Spades has a competitive spirit. That's one of the reasons I have that association with Tress really; Tress hates being mafia (I imagine Spades would probably not enjoy it much either, especially against me lol) but she still gives it a sincere effort when she does. It just tends to be a lot more stressful. The other is just... Meyers-Briggs lolcory nonsense

 

I don't think I can really read Spades that way, because the village games I've seen from her, she was pretty stressed out by it.

 

Does that make any sense?

how you are approaching reading her makes no sense to me at all, but then again i dont approach reading people that way so 

 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Sooh]

[v]Aquilla[/v]

 

Come post!

[Cory Caboose]

 

Spades has a competitive spirit. That's one of the reasons I have that association with Tress really; Tress hates being mafia (I imagine Spades would probably not enjoy it much either, especially against me lol) but she still gives it a sincere effort when she does. It just tends to be a lot more stressful. The other is just... Meyers-Briggs lolcory nonsense

 

I don't think I can really read Spades that way, because the village games I've seen from her, she was pretty stressed out by it.

 

Does that make any sense?

how you are approaching reading her makes no sense to me at all, but then again i dont approach reading people that way so 

 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

​iyam what iyam

[Spadeszee]

 

 

Alright, I've had enough time to get opinions on most players.

 

• Cory/Clov- Really unsure of these two. Cory is showing his village game by trying to step in a keep everyone calm and relaxed. Now that he’s free to devote more time to this, I’m excited to see what he’s going to contribute. Chris is about as Chris as I expect Chris to play. Probably going to rely on Bop to help me with a clearer read on him. So far every feels OKAY about these two and I’m not really getting bad vibes so far. But, they are both very experienced players and I can see them fooling all of us.

 

• Sooh- Seems to be very confident in herself this game, bold and not willing to take anyone's nonsense. Getting more of a villager read from her, but that won’t stop me from questioning her actions. When I do question she responds quickly and passionately and I really like that. Her actions don't seem to have alternate motives.

 

• Eldrick- Last game I read Eldrick as a wolf all game long. I’m not getting those vibes from him. My main issue for this is that he is agreeing with most of what I’m saying, I’m not sure if it’s because we’re on the same page or if he doesn’t want the heat I consistently gave him last game. Laying low or something like that. I will clarify in saying he was a villager last game but didn’t do anything to prevent a potential mislynch on himself multiple times. Last game he seemed to be pretty bold and had his own really interesting ideas, I’m not seeing that from him this match so far. I’m keeping him neutral for now.

 

• Zander- Right now I am worried about tunneling. There is a lot of content between our last conversation and now and he’s had zero input on any of it, just tipping back to having to back off from us. Maybe he’s just really confident that he found a wolf in us, or just frustrated nobody took to his side. I’m hoping to see him look into more people than just us to show he’s trying to solve this game, not just prove a narrative he’s stuck on. Everyone is Town reading him, but until I see him doing some actual work to help progress this game I have to put him in neutral.

 

• Cuthalion- Not looking hot for Cuth. Cory said he was busy, but I would really like to hear it from him, not just word of mouth. (Who knows, it could have been in wolf chat :P) Zero content, but we still have another day, so we’ll see. Neutral with easy wolf tilt if we see nothing.

 

• Linz-  Clear and really helping me a lot this game, thank you for answering my questions! <3

 

• Darth- No idea with Darth. I will say he seems to be playing differently from the last game I was in, where he was a wolf, but that doesn’t give me much confidence considering Cory was sure last game was his Town play xD I see him making some content and comments, but nothing really stands out to me. I don’t get a genuine vibe from him so much, but I could be reading into nothing. Going to have to be Neutral for now.

 

• Ted Bundy- This guy kinda popped in, stirred the pot then left. Nothing from him today, no reads or thoughts of any kind. Got a bad feelings about this one so he has a wolf tilt from me for lack of game solving, care or involvement.

 

• Ironeyes-  Seems to be trying to catch up, now I hope that they start to really interact with everyone and don’t just read the thread, make a few responses and then leave. I see them focusing on Scruffington a little (which may be an easy deflection to divert attention away from them) None of which really contributed in my opinion. I don’t really have a read on them yet, hope they become much more active tonight and tomorrow. Not enough to lean either way for me so I only have neutral.

 

• Aquilla- Where did you go? You posted a tiny bit then left? I don’t know if maybe they forgot about the game or what? They seemed slightly enthused about playing so I’m really unsure as to why they would just leave without any explanation. I kinda want a wolf tilt on this one just because I’ve been told inactive wolfs do this sometimes. Maybe I’m wrong. I just don’t like it.

 

• Scruffington- I really want to wait for Scruffington to come back and make some responses and answer a few questions before I try to determine alignment. Right now it reads bad that they had a finger pointed at them and left when it got a little hot. I can only really base my thoughts off how I respond to heat in that I generally don’t care, my job is to find wolfs not prove myself a villager, but I also don’t act without an amount of conviction. The random vote stands out because they have contributed nothing else.

 

 

 

Youve only played 3 games you said, have you read any others?

 

Who have you played with before that are currently in this game and what alignments have you seen these people play?

 

• Cordyx-  You feel confident that you know Cory's Town game?  You dont think he could do the Bolded as Scum!Cory?  So Im guessing your read on them is Null to slightly Town?
• Describe what you think Eld's Town and Scum games look like for me please?  I wanna see where youre trying to draw your baseline from.
• I tunnel as both alignments so thats Null.  Cory asked me to give you some space so I will for now.  Ill leave my issues to the side for now and just move forward and will see if I need to go back and pursue or drop that particular issue.  

Gonna wait till you answer my top questions first I suppose before i go into too many reads list questions my dear.

 

I haven't spectated or read any games I wasn't in (I did answer this question earlier)

 

I've played with Bop and Cory in a Hydra game (Cory subbed out of that game after D1) Both of them were V. Last game I played had Eldrick and Darthe in it. Eldrick was V, Darthe was W.

 

I do not feel confident about Cory, but I have a decent idea just from what I've seen/heard about his play. Bop is also experience with him so I have a second perspective point. With him asking you to back off and generally keeping things light, it feels very similar to his Hydra game. It will take some time, though. I also added that he's a very experience player, and he told me himself he didn't mind playing wolf and had no problems with faking villager in that role.

 

I've only seen Eldrick as town, and with that he was just so all over the place. He made points that didn't seem logical (some did but most had me scratching my head all game). I have no idea what his wolf game would look like, but right now I'm getting very lack luster content from him. It could be that it's early and nobody has pinged him yet, but as of right now I am weary that he's not standing out more.

 

I have never played with you, and as much as I would like to trust your word/others, I have to follow your actions. Everyone else is town reading you, but I can't just lock you clear because you're following your meta. Understand I am skeptical of literally everyone but Linz. 

[bopolis]

 

/inb4 "why are you asking her permission Chris"

 

chris asking permission is Wolfy AF.....lololololol

 

 

 

listies listies i can do listies too! (each group in no particular order)

 

VVV

mrsclov

 

v-lean

sooh

eld

 

kinda v-lean

cory/clov

iron

darthe

 

no idea but y'all seem to be cool with him

Zander

 

the rest

ted bundy

cuth

aquilla

scruff

 

Do you find that your PoE feels really too easy?

 

I mean it could very well be but games usually arent that easy....lol

 

Of your v and kinda v leans, if youre wrong on someone who is most likely that person and why?

 

 

 as to the red, of course its easy. it's basically the people who have done something versus the people who have done nothing. Am I concerned about it, I will be if the bottom start acting villagy.

 

As for the purple/pink part: if im wrong on people its more likey in the darthe/cory/iron part since they are my weaker leans and because a large part they are villa leans at all is because of tone and tone is super easy to fake. 

[Zander?]

SpadesBop can come sit on the townie beanbag chairs, as far as I'm concerned. They both seem to be putting a ton of effort into reading everyone and what they're saying makes a lot of sense. 

 

i dont see why everyone finds them Towny....sadface.gif

 

 

 

 

 

Finally home.

 

Sooh - do you care if I answer Spades's question about why you're very likely town?  

 

Clov has another wife? That jerk. 

 

 

 

innocentface.gif

 

 

 

 

SpadesBop can come sit on the townie beanbag chairs, as far as I'm concerned. They both seem to be putting a ton of effort into reading everyone and what they're saying makes a lot of sense. 

 

 

Creepy AF

[bopolis]

[v]Aquilla[/v]

 

Come post!

[Clovdyx]

Bop, did you ever say what you liked about Darthe?  I know you mentioned Iron earlier but can't remember if you mentioned him.

[MrsClov]

Zander, Serious question for you. If Bop hadn't come out with his penny's a wolf because she subbed out comment (be it a joke or otherwise) how would you be reading them?

[Spadeszee]

Spades has a competitive spirit. That's one of the reasons I have that association with Tress really; Tress hates being mafia (I imagine Spades would probably not enjoy it much either, especially against me lol) but she still gives it a sincere effort when she does. It just tends to be a lot more stressful. The other is just... Meyers-Briggs lolcory nonsense

 

I don't think I can really read Spades that way, because the village games I've seen from her, she was pretty stressed out by it.

 

Does that make any sense?

I really wish this was the game where I got to test that out. Curiosity killed the cat and all.

If you're a wolf, though, I feel like no matter how I post you're going to find me scummy. People know and trust you and I know you have a lot of leverage in this game and know how to use it.

 

I know you have some experience with Bop, so you should look at him as well, not just me.

 

I don't mind this pressure, but I think if you read my posts carefully it will be obvious to you.