[Basic] Peg + Cat Mafia -- TOWN WIN

[Spadeszee]

 

I'm trying really hard to piece wolf groups together right now and it's hard to find logic in anything. I would probably feel most comfortable with a Tig vote right now because she did fail to provide more after promising reads. I get being busy, but I don't really like the constant excuses and her reaction to being questioned about her focus on Eldrick is just really fishy to me. That being said, I'm still so suspicious of Eldrick because of how little he seemingly cares about playing this game and his "villagers gives answers" mindset. A villager flip gets us nowhere and I'm just not buying his thread presence as being genuine.

Ed is really growing on my list right now because of his rudeness to me when I ask him for reads, then calmly saying he's going to give them to someone else, then not providing us with anything. He has done absolutely nothing to help us solve this game so far.

 

I do really like Tress' logic about LZM and him splitting up the votes between three, if both Alex and Eldrick were w/w. Another thought is that would also probably throw him under suspicion at the same time, so him not doing that would be a smart tactic to not get all three EZPZ lynched. I'm also concerned that Hallia has him cleared.

 

With that, Hallia hasn't done anything either, I was hoping that her vote on Alex would get the ball rolling in the right direction, but it seems like she is just mindlessly voting right now.

 

This is really tough because I know only two more wolfs exist and I'm just trying to figure out who the best pairing would be.

Storms caused power outages in my area all through the night then life happened this morning, I apologize if my "constant excuses" bother you but I have put in more content than some players so I'm curious as to why you find it so scummy in me???

 

Also what is fishy about my response to my post on eldrick? Could you be more specific?

 

You're just extremely touchy and defensive about it. Again, you could have let it go, but even me bringing it up has made you flare up. It seems like a serious overreaction to something that could have been calmly explained. I get there is a lot of pressure on you right now since you are getting wolf read by quite a few people, I just don't know if your responses are coming from a villager place or a panicking wolf one. 

[dicetosser1]

So yesterday afternoon I got extremely overly emotional for no apparent reason, and have been in a terrible mood ever since.  I'd apologize for the emo but it's still there just under the surface and likely to pop back up.  I also have a headache today, so there's that lovely addition to my grumpiness.

 

I tend to have less busy days at work on Fridays, plus have been moved to a new corner desk where it'll be easier for me to be a slacker and check in on my phone without drawing unwanted attention.  However, I'm not sure I'll have a lot of value to add while I'm in this mood.  Since trying to think logically about the game is apparently not getting me anywhere, I decided this morning to go with my gut reads.  Do with them what you will.

 

If I am the seer, Adella and Darthe are town.

 

Otherwise, I feel Shanti and Spades have been most clear town.

 

LZM probably town because his EOD indecision only makes sense (IMO) as mafia if he, Eldrick and Alex were the mafia team, and there's really no reason why he wouldn't have put a vote on me or Tigraine to make it a 3-way random in that case.

 

Eldrick and Hallia are in my "not sure but I could see it as potential town" list.

 

Tigraine has me worried because 1) the "aha was that a slip" moment with Hallia, 2) leaving her joke vote on me and disappearing for the rest of D1, 3) coming back aggressively and focusing solely on Eldrick.  I get the not having a lot of free time and playing on the phone, but I'm not sure I believe a townie in that position would spend that much time casing one person and not just skim some ISOs and give a comprehensive picture of their reads.

 

Ed has me worried because he still hasn't made his thoughts clear on other players, after promising to do so last night he made all of one post quoting an exchange between Eldrick and Hallia and leaving a comment that STILL does not make it clear how he feels about EITHER of them.   

 

And most of all, my gut is telling me that while Cass has been great and townie, Dice has not hit me with that "oh yeah, he's definitely town" moment, which in my experience ALWAYS means he's not town.  That combined with the fact that Cass is the only one who was able to come up with an explanation of why the mafia might have thought Redd could possibly be more likely to be the seer than anyone who left a legitimate N0 peek in the thread puts them as a flashing red light for me.

 

I'll be around.

 

first off

 

gives

 

 

 

 

second off  

always huh??  do me a fava and go iso me in shads last game   that nutso advanced one. then compare. Cause your wrong so far

[dicetosser1]

so hally voted us huh?  heres a thing ive noticed about hally   she tends to go after me when shes scum.

 

vote hally

 

and we are never lynching Tress or Shanti

[Songstress]

I'm not feeling it this game, Dice.

 

If I'm wrong about you, it will go down as the first time in I don't know how long that I haven't been able to spot you as town. Usually it's the other way around, I get a slight town vibe and let myself get distracted and don't look for that real "oh yes" moment.

[dicetosser1]

you might wanna look at that game tress    u may even pick up a tell lol

[Songstress]

you might wanna look at that game tress u may even pick up a tell lol

We'll have to talk about it after the game, because as of right now this is how I read you.

[Songstress]

I did skim through the first couple of pages of that ISO, and it doesn't feel like this game to me. I don't know what you think I am supposed to get from it, but I don't see anything that would change my mind about this game.

[dicetosser1]

what i was hoping ud get is that i was quieter. that i wasnt that aggressive dice people want to see to believe me town  yet i WAS town.

 

thats fine.

[Spadeszee]

20 pages into my reread

 

Darthe – Not very present at all, very odd for him

Songstress – Fluffing along, not really any content, though I did agree with her that I liked Shanti's posting

 

Tigraine – Kinda null, posts seem to lack real meat atm, but Alex's quote to her doesn't feel to me like a post a teammate would make

Ed – No serious content, but sounding pretty good itt (USED IT AGAIN)

Dice + Cass – Early on good feels, asking questions etc/ Dice being fluffy to start – Then Cass slips into it seems only question asking/answering mechanics mode, which can be done regardless of alignment

 

Shanti – Early on vote on Alex, got into the game quickly - I like her posting

 

Eldrick - Lots of content is a good look

 

 

 

n0 ed2funny town

I find it hard to believe that scum would use their partner as a viewing, influences my read on Ed in a positive light

 

 

 

When I call someone wolfy, I explain why I feel that way. If not for me, for everyone else.

i dont understand why do you prefer asking me indirectly why am i wolfreading you instead of asking me directly

 

i am wolfreading you because of your tone

 

 

now im interested.

 

explain whats worrying u?

 

 

 

 

When I call someone wolfy, I explain why I feel that way. If not for me, for everyone else.

i dont understand why do you prefer asking me indirectly why am i wolfreading you instead of asking me directly

 

i am wolfreading you because of your tone

 

You didn't seem to like being asked direct questions before :P

 

I'm also not a big fan of your tone, but going to take a little while to iron out everyone's personality traits. 

I'm trying to gather information before coming to conclusions.

 

 

not a fan of the read. feels fake

 

 

 

since we arent playing this in real life, there can hardly anything that can trigger such a big emotional response which would call for your idea of "aggresive" and "defensive" stuff in a post

 

my point about "aggresive and defensive" was this: aggresive = seek interaction; defensive = run away from interaction

 

calling my posts defensive isnt correct

With that logic nobody can read tone online at all.

 

Online is all about your perception of words and how you think someone is expressing something. Your reaction to being asked a simple question that wasn't really game related had defensive undertones. Hallia sort of added to it and you responded in a way where you tried to contradict her words, proceeded to unvote her and vote someone else randomly. Perhaps to stop her from interacting with you. Now I'm talking to you and I find that your answers seem really uncomfortable. Arguing my analyses rather than trying to explain yourself or actions.

 

You also never answered as to why you voted Shati in the first place.

 

 

i hope ure not  saying tone reading isnt a thing here spades.

 

 

This goes in with my Dice read above - Just seems very fluffish

 

also why do you say "play against" you instead of "play with" you. thats an interesting choice of words @Tigraine

 

Again, within the reread, this doesn't seem like something a teammate would say to another, influences my read on Tigs in the positive

 

 

 

i thought it was a slip but her answer was satisfactionary

 

Alex, if you're caught up what are your current overall thoughts/reads at the moment?

 

I see questions and nudges, but no commentary/opinions on anyone other than Spadez and Tigs to here.

 

town:

reddboiler

 

lean town:

hallia

 

lean scum but less than spade:

songstress

 

lean scum:

spade

 

everyone else is either null because they have posted nothing, or null because they have been equally towny and scummy, which balances it to a null read

 

 

I could see scum leaving a partner as one of their scum leans, and I know Spades is town, so this makes me kinda feel bad about Tressy

 

 

but this whole thing is getting complicated. if you are town i hope scum kills you tonight

See now, you started off good with saying it's getting complicated...

 

Then you said that last part. Sounds like you're loosely setting her up for a train tomorrow when she doesn't get NKed by you tonight. 

 

Just a small note - it could be pure frustration, and then that's just bad form - but it could play into overall read. 

 

A post of Ed's that makes me feel good about him

 

 

 

LZM is town. I'm not happy with the lack of activity. But there it is. I wrote my reasoning last night on cass/dice - and Tress as well, but atm her recent post made me feel a little better. I also wrote my reasoning why I don't think everyone else is town, or lower on the totem pole. I could also vote darthe

How is this even close to being a confident wolf read? You are avoiding making real cases against anyone, but voting. Again, I don't really see you voting for a fellow wolf, but you're not spending any time trying to actually game solve either. Not a good look at all.

[Songstress]

Methinks the page is broken...

[Songstress]

Too many people not around... deadline is what, 2 hours?

[Shanti]

I'm reading as people are posting so I stay caught up, I'm just honestly lost and confused. GTH if I had to vote scum right now it would be LZM.

[Eldrick4221]

Thank you for covering other people, tigs. I'm gonna go check out Adella's iso for myself. She's the one that jumped out the most on your list.

 

@dice that vote feels very much like OMGUS. Do you have more reason to vote there?

 

@Spades nice catch on Hally. Looking forward to seeing how this develops. Could move my vote there.

[Spadeszee]

I'm having such a hard time deciding who to vote right now but I think I need to follow what feels most off to me right now. 

I can see a world with Alex/Hallia/Ed followed up by Alex/Eldrick/Ed.

Because I haven't seen any content from Ed at all and he basically threatened to vote me for putting attention onto him the other night and followed up today as really his only comment, he's my top scum right now.  I can also see the Hallia/Ed votes making sense, seeing as Ed tried to come in last second and vote Eldrick, which would have saved Alex and not allowed Hallia to lynch him and but her good cover. This is the only way I can believe Hallia is a wolf.

 

[vote] ed2funy [/vote]

[Songstress]

It's just v, not the full word vote ;)

[Shad_]

broke page is broke

[Songstress]

Also trying to get to a new unbroken page

[Shad_]

bump

[Songstress]

Hi Shad.

[Shad_]

bump

[Spadeszee]

[v]ed2funy[/v]

[Songstress]

.

[Shad_]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Eldrick (1) - Adella

 

LZM (1) - Eldrick

 

Dice/Cass (1) - Hallia

 

Ed (2) - Tigraine, Spades

 

Hallia (1) - Dice/Cass

 

LZM (1) - Shanti

 

Not Voting: Darthe, Songstress, LedZepMan, ed2funy

 

 

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

 

[Shanti]

[v] LZM [/v]

[Shanti]

His silence is really irking me after not really posting much substance.