[Basic] Peg + Cat Mafia -- TOWN WIN

[Hallia]

 

 

i was trying to find the rigfht word hally  even ure reply to me  its kinda tight 

 

think of it this way   the way im reading ure posts is givibng me an image in my minds eye of someone kinda hunkered down, speaking in a hard tone of voice but in a manner that is challenging.

 

 

This is VERY opposite to normall perky town hally.

 

 

and i never said unconcerned. I  said cornered. Very big difference

I have also been told as town I have a backbone, and I feel like I'm standing up for myself here, if you feel that way, well that's not it at all.  I just don't know what else you want.

 

 

This backbone thing seems to be coming up a lot this game and yet I cant remember your Town game ever being described as that and i have played a lot of games with you.

 

Basically Im sus on you cause your tone is off for me. Add that to no hunting and the fact that spades alone has asked you for a reads list like three times and im thinking your scum

 

OR the site was down one night, and it was night phase one night, and I can *preeeeetty* much only really play at night, and so I haven't been here much, I promised reads when I could do them, and I just did them.  Sorry that you're still not a townread for me.

[Shad_]

I'm going to be out for a long time tomorrow. Should be back before EoD again but vote counts might be infrequent.

[Eldrick4221]

:tired:

[Eldrick4221]

 

20 pages into my reread

 

Darthe – Not very present at all, very odd for him

Songstress – Fluffing along, not really any content, though I did agree with her that I liked Shanti's posting

 

Tigraine – Kinda null, posts seem to lack real meat atm, but Alex's quote to her doesn't feel to me like a post a teammate would make

Ed – No serious content, but sounding pretty good itt (USED IT AGAIN)

Dice + Cass – Early on good feels, asking questions etc/ Dice being fluffy to start – Then Cass slips into it seems only question asking/answering mechanics mode, which can be done regardless of alignment

 

Shanti – Early on vote on Alex, got into the game quickly - I like her posting

 

Eldrick - Lots of content is a good look

 

 

n0 ed2funny town

I find it hard to believe that scum would use their partner as a viewing, influences my read on Ed in a positive light

 

 

When I call someone wolfy, I explain why I feel that way. If not for me, for everyone else.

i dont understand why do you prefer asking me indirectly why am i wolfreading you instead of asking me directly

 

i am wolfreading you because of your tone

now im interested.

 

explain whats worrying u?

 

 

 

When I call someone wolfy, I explain why I feel that way. If not for me, for everyone else.

i dont understand why do you prefer asking me indirectly why am i wolfreading you instead of asking me directly

 

i am wolfreading you because of your tone

You didn't seem to like being asked direct questions before :P

 

I'm also not a big fan of your tone, but going to take a little while to iron out everyone's personality traits.

I'm trying to gather information before coming to conclusions.

not a fan of the read. feels fake

 

 

since we arent playing this in real life, there can hardly anything that can trigger such a big emotional response which would call for your idea of "aggresive" and "defensive" stuff in a post

 

my point about "aggresive and defensive" was this: aggresive = seek interaction; defensive = run away from interaction

 

calling my posts defensive isnt correct

With that logic nobody can read tone online at all.

 

Online is all about your perception of words and how you think someone is expressing something. Your reaction to being asked a simple question that wasn't really game related had defensive undertones. Hallia sort of added to it and you responded in a way where you tried to contradict her words, proceeded to unvote her and vote someone else randomly. Perhaps to stop her from interacting with you. Now I'm talking to you and I find that your answers seem really uncomfortable. Arguing my analyses rather than trying to explain yourself or actions.

 

You also never answered as to why you voted Shati in the first place.

i hope ure not saying tone reading isnt a thing here spades.

This goes in with my Dice read above - Just seems very fluffish

also why do you say "play against" you instead of "play with" you. thats an interesting choice of words @Tigraine

Again, within the reread, this doesn't seem like something a teammate would say to another, influences my read on Tigs in the positive

 

 

i thought it was a slip but her answer was satisfactionary

Alex, if you're caught up what are your current overall thoughts/reads at the moment?

 

I see questions and nudges, but no commentary/opinions on anyone other than Spadez and Tigs to here.

town:

reddboiler

 

lean town:

hallia

 

lean scum but less than spade:

songstress

 

lean scum:

spade

 

everyone else is either null because they have posted nothing, or null because they have been equally towny and scummy, which balances it to a null read

I could see scum leaving a partner as one of their scum leans, and I know Spades is town, so this makes me kinda feel bad about Tressy

 

but this whole thing is getting complicated. if you are town i hope scum kills you tonight

See now, you started off good with saying it's getting complicated...

 

Then you said that last part. Sounds like you're loosely setting her up for a train tomorrow when she doesn't get NKed by you tonight.

 

Just a small note - it could be pure frustration, and then that's just bad form - but it could play into overall read.

A post of Ed's that makes me feel good about him

 

 

This post just feels like observations. Stuff that can be said as either alignment. Doesn't help my read on you.

 

Not sure how to take you responding the same way I did to alex's peek after the flip.

 

Kinda weird that you're putting this much effort into making ed look good, when you say he doesn't have serious content.

[Eldrick4221]

Also weird that you're giving me a pass for "lots of content". That's null for me and you know it.

[Eldrick4221]

Tress is Town not scum. and she IS pretty good at this game! as long as shes not a vig..... LUV YA TRESSIE!!!

 

Hallias tone today royally sucks. shes sounding cornered and kinda belligerent.

 

Eldrick heres whats bugging me. why didnt he vote Adam?? I only see one reason for it

 

Ledzep that EOD is pretty ballsy for scum first game back after ages.

Is your problem that I didn't vote mafia or that I didn't try to save myself?

 

I voted tigs, who was my strongest scum read. My reason for Alex was weaker imo.

[dicetosser1]

that you didnt vote to save ureself

[Eldrick4221]

I'm sorry to whoever the seer is, but I can't cover anymore. I was fine with the n0, but I can't pretend to have peeks while also try to scum hunt.

 

I get that it's part of the setup, but I don't like to lie as town.

 

Darthe wasn't really my peek. It's been bugging me that he thought I was trying to pocket him. I know that he knows how this setup works. I don't get his reaction. I'm starting to think he might be scum.

[Eldrick4221]

that you didnt vote to save ureself

It doesn't matter if I die. As I said before, only lylo town death really matters. Every other death gives information. I'm willing to take the lynch to show my town pov.

[Eldrick4221]

I probably won't be doing much tonight. I got less than 2 hours sleep.

 

I'm here to chat, but I won't be digging through the thread.

[Eldrick4221]

LZM iso, part 1 (minus the vote fails)

 

 

400 replies in day 1?!?!??!!? Jeebus!

I'm here now.

  

Ahh, stupid. Stupid tags. I'll get this glow thing eventually

Round two!

[v] Ed-boy [\v]

  

 

songstress is reading the thread but not playing the game

ledzepman is ???

Me. Also known as the dude, duderino, duder,.

  

Why would you ask Ed?

In my experience even when he's town he's scum.

So, my analysis from my brief fifteen minute skim/read through-

Alex coming in hot and heavy, Tress on the wrong end of the train, and all in all general D1 sadism.

And, for the love of god, what is a hydra?

  

 

 

Why would you ask Ed?

In my experience even when he's town he's scum.

So, my analysis from my brief fifteen minute skim/read through-

Alex coming in hot and heavy, Tress on the wrong end of the train, and all in all general D1 sadism.

And, for the love of god, what is a hydra?

Have you read all the pages?

I can ask you the same questions?

GTH who's Scum/Who's Town?

Can you explain the Ed thing? Is it a joke or for real? In the last two games he was scummyscummscumscumMcScum. Here he feels different. How does he read to you?

Why's Tress on the wrong end of the train for you?

And \o/ Sadism

Yes, I've been through all the pages, but thoroughly, meh.......no. Mobile version blows.

And Ed being scum all the time is a joke. He usually gets himself lynched early no matter what side he's on. But it's been five years or so since I played a game so........ stuff changes.

Like GTH. What's that mean? Never seen that acronym before.

And Tress is on the wrong end of the voting train. First place right now for a free noose around the neck. That's not a race I'd want to win.

  

Cass, since I don't know if I have the skillz to chop quotes up in mobile, I'll just answer best I can.

So, GTH- right now Alex seems town to me. Pushy town. Like that person in your neighborhood that always comes over wanting you to sign up with the neighborhood watch, when all you wanna do is drink beer naked on your couch. Good hearted but pushy.

Now, Ed. I could never tell when he was scum except when I was scum team. And I never seen him last past D3 as town. But, I'm five years outta date here. I could lean either way here.

GTH- as to town I'd say Alex, but that's about it. Scum on the other hand, I'd say the same as I always say. Look to the back of the class. The lurkers. Skulking about like vagrants, asking for cigarettes and roofing around through the trash.

  

 

 

400 replies in day 1?!?!??!!? Jeebus!

I'm here now.

calling it now, zeps a wolf

Haha! And what're you, little red riding hood? Or is the tre little piggies?

  

Somebody broke it!

Get the duct tape!!!

  

He's just hoping for a mod kill.

  

 

Has one shot of Jaeger really messed me up or was the last page weird?

It was weird. Like one too many mescaline hits

  

that was some pretty quick bandwagoning fellas, especially in the wee hours of the morning. Is your QT more active than the thread right now?

  

 

Not solving doesn't guarantee wolf, but it's a dang good reason to Day 1 lynch.

Same could be said of me. I dont build cases day 1, and according to cass I've not had much substance either.

I think that hogwash, as I've explained myself for the little bits of info I have provided.

Now, I don't have an opinion on tigs yet, but what I do feel confident in is her wagon. Or more precisely whose on the wagon. Hopping on a wagon is mafioso 101. Which just happened in the space of five minutes I think.

So, I'm gonna [unvote]. And lay a FoS on Redd for that bandwagon attempt.

I may vote to consolidate a lynch, since we have a three way tie ATM, but until then I'm going to [v]Redd[\v] for his hopping on the Tigs wagon.

And I ain't doing this ISO thing, feels like meta gaming to me and that's no bueno.

  

 

 

 

Not solving doesn't guarantee wolf, but it's a dang good reason to Day 1 lynch.

Same could be said of me. I dont build cases day 1, and according to cass I've not had much substance either.

I think that hogwash, as I've explained myself for the little bits of info I have provided.

Now, I don't have an opinion on tigs yet, but what I do feel confident in is her wagon. Or more precisely whose on the wagon. Hopping on a wagon is mafioso 101. Which just happened in the space of five minutes I think.

So, I'm gonna [unvote]. And lay a FoS on Redd for that bandwagon attempt.

I may vote to consolidate a lynch, since we have a three way tie ATM, but until then I'm going to [v]Redd[\v] for his hopping on the Tigs wagon.

And I ain't doing this ISO thing, feels like meta gaming to me and that's no bueno.

Id love to respond to you but i dont know wtf youre even trying to say here. Come again, obky this time english

That's about as English as you can get.

So bandwagoning and a serious lack of commitment on the retort.

Any other scum tells you'd like to share with the rest of the class Redd?

  

 

[Eldrick4221]

And part 2

 

 

 

When I was going over the votes, I noticed that Redd wasn't sticking with his scum reads. He'd give a good reason to go after someone, but would drift away seemingly spontaneously.

I'm starting to think he might need a wolf.

I agree. Now switching your vote doesn't necessarily make you scum, but when you switch votes so often with little to no reason, something's fishy.

I don't see any reason for Redds vote on me other than OMGUS, but how many times has he swapped his vote? 3 times methinks. He hopped on the tigs bandwagon with you, then straight to me after I pointed the finger at him.

Gut feeling says Redd is scum

  

So, we have a tie here with thirty minutes to deadline. Alex and Eldrick.

Hmmmm. My gut says both are town. Now, who to consolidate on?

Alex is not contributing anything, yet I feel he is town. Eld is contributing more, and I feel he's town too.

I don't know wether to let this go random or to hammer one or the other.

So, [unvote] for now. More reading ahead of me.

  

At this point spade, no. I won't pull up quotes.

I don't own a computer and I'm not gonna try n chop quotes now in mobile.

It's deadline. I'm not going to try and convince anybody of my opinions right now. All I can and will do is decide wether I want to vote Alex or Eld.

I don't like going to random lynch.

  

 

 

So, we have a tie here with thirty minutes to deadline. Alex and Eldrick.

Hmmmm. My gut says both are town. Now, who to consolidate on?

Alex is not contributing anything, yet I feel he is town. Eld is contributing more, and I feel he's town too.

I don't know wether to let this go random or to hammer one or the other.

So, [unvote] for now. More reading ahead of me.

This post reeks. If you think we are both town, why would you even consider voting one of us?

Explained in my last sentence. Random lynch helps nobody but scum.

  

And I'd rather have a consolidated lynch than random.

  

Eight minutes to deadline, and it's a coin toss. If that is acceptable to the rest of y'all, then count me the odd duck out. Random is not good.

Grr. Not a fan of this random lynch setup.

  

 

 

 

 

So, we have a tie here with thirty minutes to deadline. Alex and Eldrick.

Hmmmm. My gut says both are town. Now, who to consolidate on?

Alex is not contributing anything, yet I feel he is town. Eld is contributing more, and I feel he's town too.

I don't know wether to let this go random or to hammer one or the other.

So, [unvote] for now. More reading ahead of me.

This post reeks. If you think we are both town, why would you even consider voting one of us?

Explained in my last sentence. Random lynch helps nobody but scum.

If you feel the same about both of them, random wouldn't make a difference?

Thats why I haven't hammered yet. I just don't like the coin toss. it goes against everything I learned playing back in the day.

  

In event of a tie, the lynch will be chosen at random.

It's in the setup post.

I gave you all my opinion. Redd is scum.

Fak.

1 minute.

Let it go to the coin toss.

  

 

 

Random lynch. As it stands now, the lynch has a random chance of being between Alex and me

And this doesn't bother you enough to vote Alex over Tigs?

I was leaning toward hammering Eld. The only thing that stopped me was he was active. An active townie is worth two in the bush.

  

Yep. I messed up. My gut lied to me. 100%

Alex was scum and Redd was town. My brain hurts

  

 

 

n0 ed2funny town

 

 

i thought it was a slip but her answer was satisfactionary

Alex, if you're caught up what are your current overall thoughts/reads at the moment?

I see questions and nudges, but no commentary/opinions on anyone other than Spadez and Tigs to here.

town:

reddboiler

lean town:

hallia

lean scum but less than spade:

songstress

lean scum:

spade

everyone else is either null because they have posted nothing, or null because they have been equally towny and scummy, which balances it to a null read

Ed obviously wasn't really his peek. I find it interesting that he drops the read on his partial list. Trying to decide what that means for ed. Would Alex be more likely to forget he had named town!ed or forget that he called his teammate town?

I'm leaning that this makes ed town.

Or it could be a shielding attempt. Ed n Alex be scum buddies, and Alex trying to use that seer cover on his scum mate.

Not saying that's so, just what came to mind.

 

[Eldrick4221]

So I'm trying to figure LZM out. His strongest scum read is clearly redd, but he doesn't stay there. He takes his vote off at eod, and doesn't out it anywhere, even though he doesn't want rand.

 

He mentions several times that he thinks Alex is town. It's obvious why he wouldn't have voted him. What isn't is that he wouldn't vote me. He doesn't even mention me until it's eod and Alex and I have tied trains.

 

And he goes from that to saying he almost went for me, even though he wanted me around because I'm more active.

 

I really don't know what to make of this.

[Eldrick4221]

Another thing is his talk about ed. The beginning is clearly banter. Then he questions Cass when she asks ed stuff why she asked him. That feels weird.

 

Then he talks about how he always thinks ed is scum, regardless of actual alignment. He brings up that it's been years since he played, which only relevance would mean his information isn't accurate. So why mention it? Why keep bringing it up?

 

After that he doesn't mention Ed again. Never even tries to figure him out.

[Eldrick4221]

One explanation for this is lzm is setting up for when we flips scum and he can look good. Lzm/alex/ed. Lzm town reads Alex and scum reads ed. Never gives a good reason for either.

 

The only thing that doesn't fit is why he didn't lynch me.

[Eldrick4221]

A part of me doesn't even want to fix that typo. I know someone is going to say it was a slip. I obviously meant "when he flips scum"

 

Go ahead. Accuse me of it. Lynch me over it. Then look and see if what I'm saying makes sense.

[Eldrick4221]

Oh. I typod "ed" that makes more sense. I was trying to figure out how he became we. Ee does

[Eldrick4221]

[unvote]

[Eldrick4221]

[V]Lzm[/]

[Eldrick4221]

>.>

 

[V]Lzm[/v]

[dicetosser1]

 

that you didnt vote to save ureself

It doesn't matter if I die. As I said before, only lylo town death really matters. Every other death gives information. I'm willing to take the lynch to show my town pov.

 

 

how the HELL is that towny?? you are basically giving scum a free mislynch driving town towards a lose if you are town and do that!

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

that you didnt vote to save ureself

It doesn't matter if I die. As I said before, only lylo town death really matters. Every other death gives information. I'm willing to take the lynch to show my town pov.

how the HELL is that towny?? you are basically giving scum a free mislynch driving town towards a lose if you are town and do that!

You are really getting way too worked up over one mislynch. A mislynch isn't the end of the world. It's also not a waste.

 

And closer to a loss isn't a loss. Not by a long shot. Why should I prioritize my life over winning the game? I voted for who I thought was most likely scum. How is that wrong?

[Eldrick4221]

And another thing. It would make 0 sense for scum to do that, so you giving me crap about it isn't even helpful.

 

Please drop this.

[Eldrick4221]

I do appreciate you making it more clear that you're town, though. I don't see you getting this worked up about it if you were scum.

[Shad_]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Eldrick (1) - Adella

 

LZM (1) - Eldrick

 

Not Voting: Darthe, Songstress, Spadeszee, LedZepMan, Tigraine, Ed, Dice/Cass, Hallia, Shanti

 

 

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.