[Advanced] Ghost in the Shell - MAFIA WIN

[seph]

well i dont have any wolfbros this game  but your right I would enjoy it

 

 

ok ok this is nothing as it was all joking with zander, but if he flips mafia I am totally looking at the ladies lol

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OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

DPR (1) - Ed

 

Zander (1) - Sooh

 

Not Voting: Dice, Killashandra, DPR, Niniel, Lenlo, Nynaeve, Tigraine, Zander, seph

 

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

 

[Killashandra]

For town before your post I had

 

Sooh

Nin

Zander

 

Then

 

Dice

Ed

DPR

Seph

Nyn

 

Then 

 

Tig

Lenlo

 

In separate posts I covered some things about you that seemed odd but I had no developed opinion or tin foil. I am struggling to have good ideas this game. Everyone sees it as my first scum game but it is really not. I would probably think more on what I say before I say it instead of going off the cuff and messing up because I am an idiot.

 

I dont know what to think of you Seph. Null and lower on my list of town for now. 

 

Tig is still in the same spot but shes doing a better job. I don know if that's recovery or just starting to plays as scum better than what she was doing. I might be tunneling here though because everyone has her on their list and it could be coloring the way I read her posts

 

Lenlo is the only person I am willing to vote today. I went over in another separate post why I think so.

 

[v]lenlo[/v]

 

Ok now for after your post. I just re read it and no it doesn't really change my list yet. It may in time because it will be on my mind and something to watch for.

 

I agree with your assessment of the darthe kill. I think that is pretty thorough and I would not know what else to add just yet. I have not been thinking super clear this game and I had not put enough thought into it. I would like to go back now and reread the night posts.

 

Now on the topic of Darthe and before I forget Nyn wanted to know why I said I had to change my post. I kinda touched on that in one of my long posts about how I was really having a hard time coming up with good ideas in this game. When night ended and darthe was nk I threw out my reads because I knew they would change based on his town flip. They were nothing impressive and more like busy work. *shrug* easy to throw out really because I did not have much to say. So that is why Nyn. 

[seph]

ok thanks !

[seph]

you have any questions for me?

[Killashandra]

Maybe. Let me think and see if my brian is firing a little better today.

[Killashandra]

Can you talk a little bit on why sooh is so low on your list? Also touch on dice and nyn if you can.

 

So from your post I take that the darthe night kill made you reconsider your hard push on lynching ed?

[seph]

yea, It wasn't until a little after I came into the thread d2 going gungho at him. I think his later posting is helping alot in that category. if he did that as scum, then bravo because it looked extremely townie.

[seph]

sooh and nyn are next after dice :)

[seph]

I am trying to pull up game related content for dice atm. Dice there are questions for you inside

 

 

well i dont have any wolfbros this game  but your right I would enjoy it
 
 

Dice got any musings so far? If you have already and i missed it, pull it up for me (yeah yeah, that's what she said).

 

 

Im massively over this laughing man crud. @lenlo  dont know that we should lynch him D1 tho bro.

 

ive got DPR as town  but its on  a weak reason. i just dont see him making that mistake as scum.

 

im not minding lenlo. hes arguing. thats a good sign. he just needs to move on to a new topic. that will tell me more

 

zanders canadian.

 

liking sooh tho god knows i can easily be wrong with her. i think im getting better tho.

 

i dont like Adam. have been thinking about whether or not to vote him and his posts on this page decided it. i dont have a good articulate reason for it tho.

 

 

vote adam

 

his first vote, not to long after I voted him I believe. 
I don't remember seeing you post about adams posts before this, or really go into detail about them.  What about them did you not like?
 

 

 

 

Elaborate on the DPR thing brother please?

 

Whats your actual read on me?

 

I really dont think the Laughing Man thing is pointless tho I think if we hear/see nothing from that slot leading up to EOD it may be something to consider especially if theres no real good Scum candidate or consensus.

 

 

it was that whole thing about who bought up recruitment first. doing that  and his rechecking of it.

 

my read on you is correct

 

dice confirmming his town read on zander it looks like
 

 

 

 

 

assume away z man

 

Just answer me please brah, Its been way too long a day

 

And please say that youre Town as well I dont recall you saying it before or not.

 

 

 

 

dude am i jumping all over you? that alone should tell you. im just being ornery and refusing to say it lol

 

i already said it but i am town

 

 

OK tyvm brother!!!

 

Just say for some reason Adam was cleared Town who would be next for you and why?

 

 

 

honestly? probably seph but im not at all certain of that.  hes just been a little weird to me

You dodged a bunch of my questions around this point.
But how do you follow me onto adam, and ed when you later state you should be the most worried about me rather than adam? kinda odd

 

 

Well I can change it later if the feel of things changes.

Vote Adam

 

if he flips town im looking at killa  do not like this  shrug i dont care i can change it bit.

 

11. ed2funy - Just in case Seph didn't hear it again: I. Am. Town.
*mutters about old men needing to clean out their ears*
 

 

feel free to whinge but humor me  say the read again without the full stops. please

 

Dice where did this go? I don't think you have really posted about anyone other than ed have you?
 

 

 

 

Distracted by Elementary and experiencing increasing discouragements regarding the length of ISOs.

 

Some of us cant help being lengthy....its just something some of us are born with

 

 

 

you have never fitted this description

 

 

 

Ok I'm having trouble focusing. I*ll be back later. 

 

ok ok, I'll put my shirt back on. jeez.

 

 

we should lynch sooh for causing this

 

 

 

This is his last post.

 

*****

 

tl;dr:

 

He has either posted fluff or talked about TLM. That's it. 

 

I recall Sooh and Nyn (will have to confirm) not having problems with his game, but I don't see this as anywhere near town play.

 

 

tbh i put his fluffing down to him playing like old lenlo. old len did NOT get serious d1  he just joked a lot. He made a concious effort a while ago to get away from that meta,

 

i have seen that hes gotten serious here as well  and i have liked what i have seen. im leaning town

 

Minority village shots always kill wolves.

 

i notice zander missed the fact that this is wrong....

 

 

im only on page 46 and wont be here for DL   am leaving my vote where it is

 

 

 

@zander   i am town

 

wtl. adam seph ed

 

here is the want to lynch. tbh town dice hasn't had a problem reading me since I came back, and before hand if we were v/v we would headbutt like some champs. He just seems more dismissive and not really caring about resolving my slot. so it kinda worries me after reading all this.

 

 

[seph]

cont iso

 

 

 

 

@seph  ure being erratic

what am i being erratic about exactly?

 

 

im just not following ure thinking. you keep losing me.

 

tbh u probably should be last on that list

 

Here is my wtf post from his.

He isn't following me, but then he won't engage me so I can figure out what he actually has a problem with.
yet like i said doesn't seem to have a problem with my suspects being his. I would at least expect him to engage me at somepoint being in his bottom 3 all game......

 

 

 

 

 

@seph  ure being erratic

what am i being erratic about exactly?

 

 

im just not following ure thinking. you keep losing me.

 

tbh u probably should be last on that list

 

then why the hell don't you engage me??

What exactly am i losing you on here, because you seem to be the only 1 lost?

 

 

 

cause u arnt a priority right now.

 

cause i can still read along and try to work you out.

 

dice if your threatening to vote me you might as well do it. I am not really sure what a thunderdome here will accomplish but ill put off sleep if you want to come at me

 

 

 

you seem to be getting a little overheated there seph. cool ure jets.

 

ure in a three person wtl list and  as explained at the bottom of that.

 

i already stated im leaving my vote on adam so why so bent out of shape?

 

example of the above comments

 

@ zander

 

cop  Darthe or Sooh   would depend which i thought had more potential to cause the thread bogged down in arguing about it

 

doc  Dpr

 

vig   like duh!!!!    Zander of course

just here for content really, I do notice he later says he would cop lenlo?
 

 

 

@dice what did you think of tigs catch up posts?
Most people are reading her based on d1 content and I'm curious to see what more people think of her catchup

 

im skeptical. its easy to come in late and say things that look good.  its much harder to do it while the thread is flowing.

 

What are your current thoughts about tig, when I was skimming I don't remember anything that was like HEY WTF IS THAT THERE

 

@ed

 

so im flashing back on the Thak game we just finished and comparing to this.

 

you started out slow  ramped up when under pressure.

 

Tell me why I shouldnt lynch you here too?

 

 

 

 

@ed

 

so im flashing back on the Thak game we just finished and comparing to this.

 

you started out slow  ramped up when under pressure.

 

Tell me why I shouldnt lynch you here too?

 

I *always* start slow and ramp up as I go along. RL just kind of messes with the ratio more. 

And increase outward pressure as I get pressured, truth be told, as either alignment. It's why when DPR went after me in Fight Club toward the end, I really dug into him. We were both Town at that point. But same goes for Kaylee's game where he went after me and I dug in. He was scum. 

 

What you shouldn't do is lynch me off of half-based meta. Read my content and interactions now and see how those line up to those games, not just a general "he got more active later on" timeline kind of thing. 

 

 

riight now based on ure content i want to vote you.

 

 

 

ed2funy - Sexy town whom Seph refuses to stop tunneling on faulty raisins

 

Laughing Man - lawls NPC; can be voted, can't/hasn't seemed to vote 

 

Zander - Pretty sure he's Town. He's playing the same way I'm used to and I haven't seen anyone call him out for being able to mimic it as scum. 

 

Sooh - Still don't get why she didn't just say the Town statement, even if she didn't know they were referring to LD. Otherwise, besides what seems like confusion from people not using quotes or names, I actually think she's been making sense and am leaning a stronger town.

Don't know her meta, but people have commented that she's too confident in stuff, but I'm not seeing that. 

 

Lenlo - came out better of the two between him and DPR in TLM clash, imo. The hacker PM question is....interesting. Not paying attention to OP? that 50/50 thing with vote boosts him because I did the opposite as scum last game. Slight town

 

Dice - Hasn't left a *big* impression. Besides asking me to town claim over and over with Seph. Not sure if he's going to side with Seph, but I still feel he's more on the town side compared to Seph. Null to town

 

Nynaeve - Null purely because I don't know how to read her. Otherwise, town for asking questions and being inquisitive. Pointing out things that don't make sense. 

 

Killashandra - A lot of people always start reading her scummy, but I'm getting the same feel as her other games. The part I don't get is the full reveal. I'd have to check, but in Fight Club, I think she only revealed after some pressure. Slight scum lean, but a redemption when DPR flips Town. 

 

Niniel - For all of those who play with her more, what's her meta like? Is this normal for her to sort of take the easy way out like with her reads? More null-scum read for her few posts. 

 

Tigraine - Tigs. Tigs, what are you doing? Your catchup posts where you actually attempt to post content are odd. Your explanation of having a tab open doesn't make sense. Not gonna lie, it was weird when she read me as posting more content when I hadn't yet. Like....hello red flag. Scum

 

DPR - Scum af. Need to iso to show what I'm seeing. But it's there. I know he'll say something by the time I wake up and get to post, but whatever. Just you wait, DPR. 

 

seph - lololol dude, could you be any worse? You're not actually reading my content and replying to anything. You're just saying I'm not posting content and going on half-assed meta. You've yet to show examples of any kind. I'm looking at you the same way I looked at DPR in Kaylee's game. hard scum

 

Darthe - N1 NK, TOWN

Adam - D1 Lynch, TOWN

 

Town to scum top to bottom, minus dead people. 

Hey yo

[v]Seph[/v]

 

Are you going to provide any actual raisins or nah? 

 

 

this has just relegated you to the i am watching hard category. I just dont feel your posts. they seem to be just surfacy  lots of fluff. and yes i know to expect lots of jokes from you but you feel wrong.

 

 

also re the claim bit  there was a reason. the first time i noticed you say i am town was the one you commented on. It had fullstops after every word.

JIC zander IS LD i know how much he sux at mechanics. I doubt he would realise that LDing that would not work.

 

So i wanted  and still want unless you show me where you said it straight out to see you do it. I just wanna tick the box basically.

 

 some back and fourth with ed that I don't mind, but It doesn't really seem to change his pov or reads that much. I literally have 0 idea where i sit atm.

Dice can you show us some reads

 

 

I realise that I won´t have the time or energy to re-read the thread. Will do some isoing instead. Starting with Dice.

 

It´s clear that he is town reading Zander and Lenlo. Dice, are you usually good at reading Lenlo? You said in the beginning of the game that an arguing Lenlo is a townie Lenlo. Is there anything else that tells you that he is town? 

 

 

im ok at reading len  not great but not bad. hes involved. hes sticking to his guns.

 

 

It seems that you are town reading DPR. You said that you didn´t think he would be as obvious as mafia. And you told Zander that you would cop him. What is your thoughts about him now? Actually, it would be great to get a list with your reads about all of the players. I like your "tone" in this game and if you are town then I will relay on your reads. (Well, if you are not it would be good to have your thoughts out there anyway.)

 

 

i do think hes town but id cop him cause hes good enuff to trick people. i want to see a bit more from him about others then len and ed   he has started with killa so thats good

 

 

 

Are your intentions today to vote Ed? If so, why haven´t you already?

 

 

 

i said id hold off  his reads list puts him on my watch carefully list. i dont have good reasons for sussing him   its just a feeling. so for now i watch

 

 

 

You said that you would go after Killa if Adam turned up town but you haven´t. Forgotten about that or simply changed your mind? (And if so, why?)

 

 

 

combination of forgotten and focussing on ed and tigs  think those two need to be sorted out or its gonna cause a headache later

 

 

 

 

Do you still feel like Seph is suspicious? What do yout think about Ed voting him? 

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I dont know what to do with seph.  hes not being clear town like he can be. theres just something bugging me there. not really a good enuff answer but its what ive got

 

 

 

 

I got a townie feeling from Dice but it would be good to see some answers to these questions. 

 

 

there you go ninel   im in blue of course.  their probably rubbish answers but it what ive got right now.  im mostly watching and trying to find townies   think that will be easier this game then looking for scum.

 

i need to see more from you tho  ure null for me and thats bad.

 

After reading his iso I don't really feel like dice has dug in at all this game, most of his reads remind me of last game where he hedged most of his reads as town kinda tore itself apart. never really got in the fray or looked scummy tbh. 
I just really feel like town dice would create more of his own content, engaging those he thought was mafia. Here it more so looks like you are shading reads just kinda drifting with the flow. the only read I would commend you on would be mine (except i know you read me well, and have defended me when others thought i was scummy) but I can't because you are doing absolutely 0 to further your read of me,

 

[seph]

Can you talk a little bit on why sooh is so low on your list? Also touch on dice and nyn if you can.

 

So from your post I take that the darthe night kill made you reconsider your hard push on lynching ed?

Is there any reason why you wanted me to comment on these 2 out of my list over the others?

 

Why not lenlo, since he is one you are voting atm

[Killashandra]

Good question. I am pretty set on and clear about why I think Lenlo is a good vote so I did not think to ask your view.I will def consider a post like if you did post it.

 

Sooh I am still reading as town so I was wanting an update on what is hitting you as scum for her.

 

Same for dice and nyn. 

 

You put effort into that dice iso and I am liking your current thought processes, this probably puts you back up a little higher in my town list. I think you have done a good job of clearing up the weirdness with ed and tig that stood out to me. 

[seph]

Good question. I am pretty set on and clear about why I think Lenlo is a good vote so I did not think to ask your view.I will def consider a post like if you did post it.

 

Sooh I am still reading as town so I was wanting an update on what is hitting you as scum for her.

 

Same for dice and nyn. 

 

You put effort into that dice iso and I am liking your current thought processes, this probably puts you back up a little higher in my town list. I think you have done a good job of clearing up the weirdness with ed and tig that stood out to me. 

what was concerning you? I am sorry but i skimmed alot of the last pages since I last posted..

...eds gana yell at me for not reading again...

 

My biggest issue with sooh is I am just not that comfy with here. that in itself worries me enough since it is day 2. 

and like I said if ed is town one of nyn/sooh is likely to be mafia here.

 

after sooh I think im gana read ed. I think he is the most important read for me atm

[seph]

I don't know if I think nyn is mafia, my list earlier was a poe based off of my strong reads. dpr, zander, nin and the vote count where adam stagnated, if im assuming ed it town. 

[seph]

from reading dice and sooh, and your recent comment though. I think if dice and sooh turn out to both be mafia, and i mean both for me to feel this way. you fit as there partner 100%

also if dice is mafia I 100% only look at the ladies because of that post above. 

[Zander?]

[v] Tig [/v]

[Killashandra]

So let's say jist for the moment you belive my vt status. How does that change your views on likely mafia teams.

[seph]

killa I have not figured out who I think is mafia.

I think that dice is very likely from his iso. if he is I feel much much better about ed.

My problem here is I need to get my feelings on ed sorted asap. but as I am already halfway through soohs iso im going to finish it. and then wow in 1:30 mins, so the rest might not come until 3-4 hours after that

[seph]

So let's say jist for the moment you belive my vt status. How does that change your views on likely mafia teams.

also im not sure I ever questioned your claim.

but can i ask you what was going through your head and why you decided to claim there?

[seph]

omg i was trying to do sooh's iso like dice... this is gana be long or im gana have to cut a bunch out...

[seph]

I think im going to give my general thoughts on sooh and then post the quotes i wanted. and people can read them at there own discretion 

[Killashandra]

Idiocy and frustration is what lol. But I will go back and quote it to you if you if you like.

 

Lol on the gunna be long on sooh iso. Imagine doing Zanders that way.

[seph]

Idiocy and frustration is what lol. But I will go back and quote it to you if you if you like.

 

Lol on the gunna be long on sooh iso. Imagine doing Zanders that way.

no need to quote I just wanted the general thought running through your head when you made the post, and why you thought claiming there was a good idea? (im not saying that it wasn't but I like to see peoples train of though :)   )

[Killashandra]

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/100533-advanced-ghost-in-the-shell-day-2/?view=findpost&p=3785793

 

This one post has all the info on that. Its pretty dumb and what has proven to me that I dont have what it takes to be a good mafia player.