[Basic C9++] Murder Mystery Mafia D5

[Cory Caboose]

God Shad I've backed off Ed for three posts know do you want a full barrel roll ffs

[Shad_]

It's probably really naive of me to put anyone in a box like that anyway.

[Shad_]

God Shad I've backed off Ed for three posts know do you want a full barrel roll ffs

shhh I just read two posts per page and ramble a while

[Shad_]

I'm back on like p78 in terms of actually knowing what's going on right now.

[ed2funy]

Page derped and I lost what I wrote, but I don't like this post.

 

Like yes, granted he skimmed, but he took the easy read on me and says I feel off even though he's never played with me (I can't recall if I did or not).

 

Also, just for the fact that he marked Nin as Town when he should have had Moreno input with how many votes she had.

 

Alright - I've skimmmed - not going to lie - but this close to deadline it makes more sense to get some semblance of what is going on.

 

First an apology to all - I'm sorry for my lack of posting. Weekend was busy and I completely forgot about game. With that being said, I know I'm getting a lot of heat beacuse of that. Those who have played with me know my meta - I hella lurk as scum. I can tell you though that I'm vanilla town.

 

Reads:

 

Ed feels really off to me. I've not played with him much (if ever??) but it does seem off. His vote on killashandra was wolfy.

Darthe also feels off to me. I don't see his normal self in this game. Feels like what I saw from him on my AC game.

 

Tigger is town

Niniel is town

Cory is town

 

Can never read the monstr

 

DPR seems townie to me as well.

 

I'm liking seph more as the game goes on - although I leaned scum when he followed eddy.

 

[v]Darthe[/v]

[Shad_]

You know what's great about having a partner?

 

Being allowed to post during the day without 1000 people calling me out for slanking even though they know I'm too distracted to catch up before night and can only do pop-in RT.

[Cory Caboose]

stop slanking shad

[Clovdyx]

I guess my point with calling Ed town is I don't think she actually helps expedite the lynch of a team mate when there are villagers under equal pressure.

 

I'm pretty sure I fully understand what you're saying here, but can you flesh it out just to make sure?

 

Disclaimer: regardless of what you say, I'm going to reply with "Oh, yeah, that's what I thought you were getting at.  Thanks!"

[Shad_]

stop slanking shad

You're supposed to tunnel me until I flip out and insult everyone and then lock me in as town ldo.

[Clovdyx]

Cory - talk to me about Darthe?  There's probably a pretty sizeable gap between him postflip and the people I was already really confident on prior to the lynch.  But he would be a last ditch effort to clean up the POE at worst for me right now.

[Shad_]

 

I guess my point with calling Ed town is I don't think she actually helps expedite the lynch of a team mate when there are villagers under equal pressure.

 

I'm pretty sure I fully understand what you're saying here, but can you flesh it out just to make sure?

 

Disclaimer: regardless of what you say, I'm going to reply with "Oh, yeah, that's what I thought you were getting at.  Thanks!"

 

I need to reread it in context, but my memory says Ed was getting mixed returns and had some suspicion on him but was never at greater risk of a lynch than Darthe WBK Niniel or even Seph for a time. We were only beginning to come around to serious wagons and it would surprise me if she'd singled her scum mate out from the pack of suspects to be one of those.

 

My memory of the course of events could be garbage though, I'll look at it proper tonight.

[Cory Caboose]

Cory - talk to me about Darthe?  There's probably a pretty sizeable gap between him postflip and the people I was already really confident on prior to the lynch.  But he would be a last ditch effort to clean up the POE at worst for me right now.

 

You think he's a villager?

[Cory Caboose]

Clov, who would you lynch after WBK?

[ed2funy]

I also have no idea what to think about Killa, Niniel, and Kronos all showing up an hour after me making that post.

Interesting note.

[Clovdyx]

 

Cory - talk to me about Darthe?  There's probably a pretty sizeable gap between him postflip and the people I was already really confident on prior to the lynch.  But he would be a last ditch effort to clean up the POE at worst for me right now.

 

You think he's a villager?

 

 

Going from interactions?  Yeah - I think he has a lowish chance of being teamed with Niniel than Kronos, DPR, Tigraine, Killashandra, and Ed.  Looking at their overall contributions, I would probably put Tigraine ahead of him and maybe Killa, but I pretty much always kill Kronos, DPR, and Ed before I look at Darthe ATP.

[Cory Caboose]

There's a wolf in {Darthe, Clovdyx} though. I had a psychic vision. We've been over this

[Clovdyx]

I'm pretty sure it was you that suggested guessing what Darthe would do is more or less impossible.  Darthe has a very broad range.  I know this, you know this, probably everybody that's played with Darthe knows this.  But it's not like he's throwing darts at the wall to decide what to do every game.  

 

Unless it's exactly Kronos/Darthe/Niniel, there had to be a viable mislynch yesterday.  If that IS the team, they could have pushed in a direction to at least make a mislynch BECOME viable (though I'm not sure it would have stuck).  Unconventional players or not, I don't think I've ever seen an entire scumteam just concede D1 - no matter how much they hate randing it.

[Cory Caboose]

I don't see it that way at all I guess

People just do ??? as mafia all the time

[Cory Caboose]

neither Darthe nor Niniel were present enough to affect the lynch in basically ~any way and I don't get why you are hung up on the idea that Darthe would bus Niniel(?) in favor of other options when I'm sure I've seen multiple games where Darthe bussed in favor of a realistic mislynch and Niniel's awareness that her time in the game would probably be short

[Clovdyx]

I don't see it that way at all I guess

People just do ??? as mafia all the time

 

Most try to win though.

[Clovdyx]

neither Darthe nor Niniel were present enough to affect the lynch in basically ~any way and I don't get why you are hung up on the idea that Darthe would bus Niniel(?) in favor of other options when I'm sure I've seen multiple games where Darthe bussed in favor of a realistic mislynch and Niniel's awareness that her time in the game would probably be short

 

If you legitimately believe it's more likely Mafia!Darthe busses his teammate over voting an inactive townie with the worst excuse in the history of mafia that pretty much nobody is going to speak up for, we'll agree to disagree.

[Cory Caboose]

I think it's certainly a possibility

[Cory Caboose]

Your faith in the ability of other players to make the decisions that are most +EV for their chances to win surprises the hell out of me

 

This doesn't sound like the Clov I know :(

[Clovdyx]

I think it's certainly a possibility

 

I think it's a possibility, too, and that's why I have Darthe substantially below the people I was already feeling very strongly about (though it probably doesn't hurt that most had good position on Niniel's lynch).  I just think it's not so likely that I want to look at him above people I didn't necessarily feel good about before the flip and didn't contribute to the lynch as strongly/don't look as good from her content.

[Cory Caboose]

I mean I really don't care much about Darthe's votes.

 

I've seen Darthe start slow as a villager but he almost always shows his particularly brand of heteroclitic thinking by the end of d1, challenging the assumptions of others, letting his weight be felt in some way

 

I've seen Darthe have games where he never really finds a way to involve himself meaningfully as a wolf

 

That's where my read comes from, and I have always in my career emphasized that over things like "but shouldn't he have voted x or been on y wagon?" and I think its worked for me