[Advanced] Fight Club Mafia! - Game Thread!

Ironeyes · April 4, 2017

Where the heck is Dice anyway?

seph · April 4, 2017

Me having the same list as dpr...

[unvote] dpr

[V]iron [/v]

ed2funy · April 4, 2017

No offense, but DPR knows my claim is more valid than anyone's. He even dissed out a dead Tress to throw shade at Zander because he knew Zander's claim was pretty legit (obviously beforehand, it's more difficult than anything to prove, so I'm not trying to say I'm a hard yes townie by proof of some sort). I get that, but so does DPR.

Now you're going legit scummish - I don't think your claim is legit at all. I think it's something you and Darthe cooked up and you've been there at every opportunity to sell it. Every. Opportunity.

I "dissed" Tress for putting together a tinfoil mess, wasting everyone's time and attention, making it easier for scum to lay low.

Zander's claim was easier to prove because it was already proven. Tress saw him. We just didn't know *what* he was.

Your claim requires our complete faith. You revealed your schedule after Tress died.

The problem I'm running Into dpr is why would two scum make up pr roles that would obviously throw off game balance. Arm with the reveals it doesn't see that unbalanced which is why I'm confused

The "why" is something I don't have figured out.

Why did Darthe choose Coroner? We haven't seen another Janitor shot. When would he have been able to use it? I get where it would have come in real handy if there was/is another Janitor shot, which I've been waiting for, which was why I jumped when Liz posted those results.

Commuter is much easier to figure because it gives town cover, it explains why he never dies and he can play silly games with when he's out.

Why would they both claim? Dunno. Because it's too outrageous to suspect? Because they have a lurker as backup? Dunno.

"silly games with when [i'm] out"???? wut

No offense, but DPR knows my claim is more valid than anyone's. He even dissed out a dead Tress to throw shade at Zander because he knew Zander's claim was pretty legit (obviously beforehand, it's more difficult than anything to prove, so I'm not trying to say I'm a hard yes townie by proof of some sort). I get that, but so does DPR.

Now you're going legit scummish - I don't think your claim is legit at all. I think it's something you and Darthe cooked up and you've been there at every opportunity to sell it. Every. Opportunity.

I "dissed" Tress for putting together a tinfoil mess, wasting everyone's time and attention, making it easier for scum to lay low.

Zander's claim was easier to prove because it was already proven. Tress saw him. We just didn't know *what* he was.

Your claim requires our complete faith. You revealed your schedule after Tress died.

Except it wasn't every opportunity. I first started to try and protect Tress by drawing the NK. Also, I've lied about my exact schedule. I could have picked Even or Odd nights and picked Odd. I mentioned it so much N4 to try to keep the Mafia off of me so I could stay alive and help Town win.

You also haven't explained how you think Commuter is opposite Darthe's false Coroner claim in any way. But keep saying it like it'll magically resolve in people's heads.

There was no reason to claim my schedule before Tress died. Why would I give thrnmafia more info so they could select who to kill easier????

Look, if you were planning to claim Commuter, part of that would be to breadcrumb trying to divert the NK.

Lying about your exact schedule benefits you as mafia as well. That way it could be any night...

I also have questions: at some point you made a big deal to point out you were not claiming doc - was that before or after N3 (no kill that night).

See, you have full latitude to say it was any night. Makes a perfect cover for a night when there is no kill...

You laid it all out a bit too thick.

There was no need to bread crumb before N3 because no Town role had been revealed/claimed yet. Why try to claim earlier? If I did so on N1, that'd be way too early, and if I did so N2, I'd have died.

I laid it out as thick as I needed to WIFOM the hell out of the mafia so they wouldn't kill Tress. I also made a big deal to say I wasn't Doc because 1. I wasn't, and 2. someone asked if I was claiming Doc or assumed I was in their post, so I put that out there right away. I figured if there was a real Doc that could maybe protect Even nights or something, I didn't want them countering me and having them exposed.

Presumably Sooh was Town as well.

10 people left, and at least 3 Mafia, depending on other power roles, could be four. We gotta nab scum today.

If we Lynch Town, that's 3/9 at EOD, and then 3/8 after Night. if they have 4... well, we gotta Lynch scum today guise.

Coming in with some notes and deeper reads soon as I can get on my laptop.

Darthe and Tress both have some posting to do.

The mongering of teh fear.

Obvious DPR being obvious. You've been guessing the "game setup" all game but now wanna call it fear monger if. All the while admitting the math makes sense.

There were never 4. That's the kind of talk that makes it easier to push a mislynch. Nice try though.

But you agree it's okay to try to work out game mechanics. Because it doesn't come with any sort of problems.

Green. :tongu:

seph · April 4, 2017

Would like irons opinion on my ed case as well... I swear I'm trying to sleep

Ironeyes · April 4, 2017

Goin to bed. Ed dpr is the safest way to get 1 mafia in the ring.

Iron ed have the best chance to be m/m and i have them both above dpr.

[unvote]

[V]iron [/v]

Iron also has more equity to be with dpr than ed imo.

If it's dpr and Ed it's probably gg cause voting them both would be difficult for me

I think you have to specify which person you're unvoting.

Also I disagree with you writing off the chance of DPR being scum. That's the sort of move I expect from someone's teammate at lylo

Iron, will you list your top for scum? Reasons wouldn't go amiss - you've been a bit tight-lipped with those.

So my list would go something like

Ed: Mostly for the claim. I think he was successful at drawing that one NK which is why we haven't lost the game already, assuming there are two scum.

Dice: Same old same old. The reason I don't have him above Ed is precisely because my read on him hasn't changed at all the whole game. It's similar to the reason you're sussing me, actually, but I put less weight on it.

Seph: Below dice by a hair. I just started reading through his ISO and I see a consistent pattern of flip-flopping on a lot of people. I assumed until now that it was a result of typical town indecision and trying to read people, but it could just as easily be fence-sitting, trying to leave options open so he could vote whoever advanced his team agenda.

DPR: Pushed lynches on un-CCed protective and investigative roles, based on what I see as tinfoil, all the while deriding their tinfoil cases. I don't know what I was thinking when I defended you to Zander at the end of the last day phase.

Ironeyes · April 4, 2017

Would like irons opinion on my ed case as well... I swear I'm trying to sleep

I understand your Ed case, I just don't agree with it. I can't see him being scum in this game with Darthe.

seph · April 4, 2017

After that list I'm really interested in hearing your opinion iron on my ed case.

Would you lynch ed if he hadn't claimed a pr?

I have only flip flopped on you dpr and Ed really.

seph · April 4, 2017

OK OK OK walk me through what you disagree with plz.

Tell me where I am wrong.

seph · April 4, 2017

Ed didn't even argue I was wrong but simply provided answers to what I was worried about

seph · April 4, 2017

Someone kill me so I can sleep...

seph · April 4, 2017

I just keep hitting refresh...

dicetosser1 · April 4, 2017

[v]DPR and Seph[/v]

lolololol, you both know I'm the commuter. DPR has been setting up the "super lack of omg no roles at all in this game" for awhile and Seph is just taking advantage of it. Only way DPR would have more concrete knowledge on what the game setup could be is if he's scum, and he's trying to sell you short on the idea of the town having super low power roles. My power role is hella passive, so why wouldn't it make sense, DPR?

Dice, it was because it was D1 and I didn't feel any merit to it then. Also, I mentioned they weren't full blown cases. And Tress actually answered questions and changed my mind; you can follow the progression on that whole back and forth. If you have quotes, copy/paste them here so I can show you where you're wrong.

Seph, how would mafia know they hit a PR if they janitored her?

DPR, you could say the commuter serves for some balance against the baby sitter since it had a chance of taking out two Townies.

few questions for ya ed

the bit aimed at me iwhats this responding too? i dont remember. i went back a couple pages but couldnt find anything.

your role u say its passive. you mean passive as in you dont have to submit an action it just haoppens?

and re the balance to babysitter thing...do you take someone with u when u commute?

Clovdyx · April 4, 2017

Vote Count!

IronEyes - 2 - DreadPirateRoberts, Seph
ed2funy - 2 - DreadPirateRoberts, Seph
DreadPirateRoberts - 2 - IronEyes, ed2funy
Seph - 1 - ed2funy

Day Six - Nomination Phase ends at 11:00 PM Eastern on Monday, April 3rd.

Ironeyes · April 4, 2017

After that list I'm really interested in hearing your opinion iron on my ed case.

Would you lynch ed if he hadn't claimed a pr?

I have only flip flopped on you dpr and Ed really.

If not for the PR, I'd probably have Ed tied with you on my rankings, at a point where your case on him would be convincing. Matter of fact, if it were just his claim and nothing else right now, I'd probably be convinced anyway. But the missing night kill is what gets me. Doing the math, I don't think any scum ever skips a night kill in that situation, because it puts them where they are now--having to get one more mislynch to win. It would have been easier to take that night kill and set the game up to end on a night phase, where they have more control. Even though the town could forestall that by no-lynching, it would have been a less risky way to play the game.

Then again, I'm saying all this when we know perfectly well that Darthe was part of this team, and he loves risky ways to play games. Especially when he wins them for it.

I just keep hitting refresh...

I know the feeling. I hate being alive at lylo because it's the most touchy part of the game. Most games I die way sooner.

ed2funy · April 4, 2017

Ed was only one to not only believe Darthe claim, but actually fought for him, and voted people besides himm for the fights up until he was lynched.

I think darthe has been town and 100% believe his claim, until cced. It makes sense and his posts since his return have not been bad either imo.

Nold. Why do you say that? I'm not the best at looking towards that kind of thing, and I actually thought coroner seemed like a likely role to have?

Right...

Ironeyes · April 4, 2017

OK this is discomfiting. Rereading the last few pages is making me less sure of my read on Ed. Can't tell if I'm being saved by a concerned townie or manipulated hardcore by a skilled scum.

Goodness gracious...

ed2funy · April 4, 2017

[v]DPR and Seph[/v]

lolololol, you both know I'm the commuter. DPR has been setting up the "super lack of omg no roles at all in this game" for awhile and Seph is just taking advantage of it. Only way DPR would have more concrete knowledge on what the game setup could be is if he's scum, and he's trying to sell you short on the idea of the town having super low power roles. My power role is hella passive, so why wouldn't it make sense, DPR?

Dice, it was because it was D1 and I didn't feel any merit to it then. Also, I mentioned they weren't full blown cases. And Tress actually answered questions and changed my mind; you can follow the progression on that whole back and forth. If you have quotes, copy/paste them here so I can show you where you're wrong.

Seph, how would mafia know they hit a PR if they janitored her?

DPR, you could say the commuter serves for some balance against the baby sitter since it had a chance of taking out two Townies.

few questions for ya ed

the bit aimed at me iwhats this responding too? i dont remember. i went back a couple pages but couldnt find anything.

your role u say its passive. you mean passive as in you dont have to submit an action it just haoppens?

and re the balance to babysitter thing...do you take someone with u when u commute?

Probably because I meant Seph. My b.

Passive in the sense that I leave town and nothing happens and I don't affect people. I only take myself; I do have to confirm with the Mods I decided to leave Town that night, but I've done it each Odd night.

Ironeyes · April 4, 2017

[v]DPR and Seph[/v]

lolololol, you both know I'm the commuter. DPR has been setting up the "super lack of omg no roles at all in this game" for awhile and Seph is just taking advantage of it. Only way DPR would have more concrete knowledge on what the game setup could be is if he's scum, and he's trying to sell you short on the idea of the town having super low power roles. My power role is hella passive, so why wouldn't it make sense, DPR?

Dice, it was because it was D1 and I didn't feel any merit to it then. Also, I mentioned they weren't full blown cases. And Tress actually answered questions and changed my mind; you can follow the progression on that whole back and forth. If you have quotes, copy/paste them here so I can show you where you're wrong.

Seph, how would mafia know they hit a PR if they janitored her?

DPR, you could say the commuter serves for some balance against the baby sitter since it had a chance of taking out two Townies.

few questions for ya ed

the bit aimed at me iwhats this responding too? i dont remember. i went back a couple pages but couldnt find anything.

your role u say its passive. you mean passive as in you dont have to submit an action it just haoppens?

and re the balance to babysitter thing...do you take someone with u when u commute?

Probably because I meant Seph. My b.

Passive in the sense that I leave town and nothing happens and I don't affect people. I only take myself; I do have to confirm with the Mods I decided to leave Town that night, but I've done it each Odd night.

I recall you saying your schedule was nights 1, 3 and 4. And that you were out of trips. Was that true?

ed2funy · April 4, 2017

Problems I have with ed.

1. His interaction with darthe, and towards darthe.

Darth town read him over nothing and never looked back.

Ed was only one to not only believe Darthe claim, but actually fought for him, and voted people besides himm for the fights up until he was lynched.

2. He votes cut out of nowhere d2 with under 30 min to deadline. He.had no lead up to it and later says he had notes on him me darthe dpr. But he never shares any notes on darthe or cuth. His only comments toward cuth are d1 where it looks like he is throwing shade at cuth.

3. His case on me d1. It didn't really make sense to me and soon and big defended me b4 I could talk to him about it.

What bothers me the most is after d1 he doesn't further his read on me but continually posts that he thinks I am scummy. That is it, no further info but just seems to be riding that d1 case. And now I am town with 0 itt progression.

Overall your play is very passive and your votes have revolved around townies that are dead and nked.

I have quotes Inc. Sorry they are seperate

Ed what reason should I believe you are town

1. I believed Darthe. I mean, that simple. I'd have to actually go pull quotes to show you what persuaded me. I don't think I was the only one, though? I'd remembered feeling awkwardly alone in believing him.

2. I came in late; can't remember if I was busy or sleeping or what, but I didn't have time to get to the thread in time. Also, those notes were just lacking because I didn't flush them out, which I believe I said. Then I got caught up in following then-current thread activities.

3. Point that yes those notes/half-case I did on you from d1 have left a bad taste of you in my mouth (heh) that certain posts have prolonged. I've pointed them out and they've kept you toward the top of my list of scum.

Scum can be a *bit* more brazen today and can push harder if they're careful. Which is why our quick vote made me suss you higher again

They're "problems" with me. What exactly am I disagreeing with?

dicetosser1 · April 4, 2017

ty ed

ed2funy · April 4, 2017

Home now on my computer and I keep trying to reply to all of this mess and hit each point. Stop flooding the thread. Thanks.

Iron, what do you think about Seph's blatant lies about believing Darthe?

Also, looking for my notes on Darthe and Cuth, but they're not in my Word doc. Checking my spreadsheet where I made day-by-dat notes during that catchup

ed2funy · April 4, 2017

Dice? You scum thanking me for being so bad y'all win? lol

Iron, I just said in a recent post that I lied about the schedule and that I chose Odd nights over Even to be able to commute. Which means if we can get an actual scum lynched today, I'm the NK tonight because it'll be easier to sow WIFOM with the remaining two town who everyone more or less admits they can't read well this game.

ed2funy · April 4, 2017

Instead of typing what a joke how about telling me what u disagree with? And actually try to play the game.

What have you even done this game besides sheep cuth, seriously. You have been nothing but counter productive.

Also dpr do us a favor and actually make a case on why I'm scum. I'm pretty interested to read that crap

Comes in talks crap, and leaves lol. Most his gameplay

What a complete mess you are.

I've already stated that I would post cases after day for obvious reasons.

LOL at you for sitting out N1 but now you're all ready to go. Just so we can keep a clear tally of your slips tonight:

1. Yet another completely unnecessary reveal (at least hinted at).

2. Don't know who is playing the game.

3. Asks for cases at night despite the fact that he didn't want to talk during last night.

4. Complains about my level of activity and "lack of making cases", but doesn't question Darthe's absence at all.

Just terrible, terrible play.

Looking at posts like these where they went back and forth for awhile makes me think they are m/m after all. Just saying.

Ironeyes · April 4, 2017

Home now on my computer and I keep trying to reply to all of this mess and hit each point. Stop flooding the thread. Thanks.

Iron, what do you think about Seph's blatant lies about believing Darthe?

Also, looking for my notes on Darthe and Cuth, but they're not in my Word doc. Checking my spreadsheet where I made day-by-dat notes during that catchup

Blatant lies? Um... I don't really know. I'm getting more confused by the minute. And with all of us snapping at each other like eels it's tough to sort out what's true

Ironeyes · April 4, 2017

Dice? You scum thanking me for being so bad y'all win? lol

Iron, I just said in a recent post that I lied about the schedule and that I chose Odd nights over Even to be able to commute. Which means if we can get an actual scum lynched today, I'm the NK tonight because it'll be easier to sow WIFOM with the remaining two town who everyone more or less admits they can't read well this game.

I must have missed that post. I'll go back and look for it

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