Lego Mafia [Standard] - GAME OVER

[thehumantrashcan]

Crusher has been stand offish but his voting hasn't been scummy at all.

[thehumantrashcan]

[v] no lynch [/v] let random decide cause I am not so sure about Iron as of yet. and we only have so many players.

I suppose this could have been a scum move, it didn't mean a certainty of saving Iron but she could have not voted like Crush and Iron.

[Eldrick4221]

Vote Count Day 4

 

Sooh (1): thehumantrashcan

 

Not voting (4): Sooh, The Crusher, Wildfire Sedai, Cuth

 

 

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch

 

[Cuth]

 

 

 

 

I'll stick with [v] Sooh [/v]  There is enough evidence for wifi as well but I still feel confident enough about Sooh.  Although I might change depending on how this is answered.  Sooh, where is your suspicion of Cuth?

HEY EVERYBODY I WANT TO KEEP MY OPTIONS AS OPEN AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE

 

not at all, I seriously only suspect two, but I think how she responds to this question will shift my focus from her to wifi.  This question has nothing to do with you Cuth.  I only questioned you as town because you play like I used to play in RL but as it has been emphasized to me over and over, forum mafia is very different so I have to assume your style doesn't mean you are using running the game like I used to.  My options are only deciding between Sooh and wifi.

 

not me, just the "there's enough evidence"

 

Oh, well you disagree that her defense of Iron D1 and her play style doesn't warrant it?  Do you mean you don't consider Sooh even a little scummy?  From my RL playing her tone matches Scum perfectly.  Even when I said she got defensive, she got defensive over that.  Ok maybe it is keeping my options open a little, it's just tough with what Darthe said about Wifi and that fact that she's sick.

 

Wasn't it said earlier that it would make no sense to vote for your fellow scum when there are just two of you?  Sooh refused to vote Iron second day and last minute switch to me, wifi voted the clincher for Iron.  Doesn't that make Sooh look more suspicious than Wifi?

 

think wifi's behavior was worse

 

you know the other person is going to be lynched, there are four votes on, she hopped on and had a really strange progression on iron that whole day

 

sooh refused to even when it might have looked good

 

i mean there was no way anyone else was going to get lynched at that point, why is it -ev to put the fifth vote on?

[thehumantrashcan]

sigh [unvote]

 

[v] wifi [/v]

[thehumantrashcan]

I still want to hear Sooh's response but after looking at this for a while today, I do have to learn more towards wifi.

[thehumantrashcan]

I still don't like it.

[Cuth]

I still want to hear Sooh's response but after looking at this for a while today, I do have to learn more towards wifi.

...

 

did my persuasive reasoning win you over or did you just decide "who cares i'm just going to switch because"

 

why did you mind change, and after it having done so how do you feel about sooh and wifi

 

talk me through your thought process

[thehumantrashcan]

They are very close in being first in scum.  In my mind I've kept going back and forth but I keep finding myself wanting to back wifi because of my friend bias and because I want to stick to my guns from my first decision.  If anything I switched to wifi because I thought I may be blind because I don't want wifi to be mafia.

 

To be honest, I'm mostly blind here, I feel like you three and I have all made mistakes that should put us as suspects.  The only one that is glaringly town is Crusher and to be honest, I'd like to hear his take.

 

Finally I shouldn't vote anyone until I'm certain so [unvote]

[BFG]

Vote Count Day 4

 

Not voting (4): Sooh, The Crusher, Wildfire Sedai, Cuth, thehumantrashcan

 

 

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch

 

[BFG]

Good Morning :)

 

[Sooh]

I'm at work, but it's fairly clear to me that Oscar doesn't care who gets lynched, just as long as it's not him. He has a POE of 3 people, Wifi, Cuth and myself. In a game where there are 5 people left, that just means he needs mislynches IMO.

[The Crusher]

Crusher has been stand offish but his voting hasn't been scummy at all.

100% stand offish. Just fighting in my head. I have given my views. Sooh is very hard to get away from because of her actions around both lynches. In any other game with more than two scum mates it would seem townish considering town starts with no idea who scum is. But when it is town doing it they give reasons and explanations why they did it. But in a two scum game I have to think the other partner would do anything not to lose its team mate on first lynch.

 

You had a vote on the train that made me feel scum would not make. I brought it up abbot ago. You never playing on line and the odd two man scum team dynamic makes it tough for me to think it's you.

 

Wifi is very hard to get a solid read on. Her logic is unique and very hard to discern the intention of it. Yet pretty much had her as my second for scum most of the game.

 

Cuth is the wildcard. I read him over and over and honestly haven't got a clue. Sadly if it's him he is probably going to win.

 

Don't see myself voting younor Cuth today.

[The Crusher]

I'm at work, but it's fairly clear to me that Oscar doesn't care who gets lynched, just as long as it's not him. He has a POE of 3 people, Wifi, Cuth and myself. In a game where there are 5 people left, that just means he needs mislynches IMO.

To be fair he is kinda playing by himself right now. Trying to get people to jump in. I guess I got to go look at the post that made me clear him.

[The Crusher]

Yeah, Crusher has hardly anything posted and a couple of empty promises of playing and being involved but then doesn't follow through.  I'm not really sure what to make of that.  There has been that little back and forth with Iron but from what I've seen between them it just emphasizes either one is scum and the other is town.  Didn't really pick up on any fake arguing.  

 

I'm exhausted, I have so much more work to do on the house tomorrow and I don't have time to sort through iron to double check but since there hasn't been enough for me to point a finger at crusher I'll go with Iron.

 

[v] ironeyes [v]

This post made me think he is town.

[The Crusher]

Vote Count Day 2Ironeyes (3): Darthe, Lenlo, thehumantrashcanThe Crusher (1): IroneyesNot voting (4): Sooh, The Crusher, Wildfire Sedai, CuthWith 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch

. Pretty balsy place to put yourself on your only team mates train still looking at first lynch of game. Got to check to see if he tried to bail.

[The Crusher]

Hey I did get on this today.  I won't be back on until tonight so I hope I made the right choice because 3 is looking pretty high.  Iron, if I'm wrong and they move forward, sorry.

Weird post following vote. But still hell of a play with two scum in the game. Full knowing we have an investigative role.

[The Crusher]

yeah [v]ironeyes[/v]

Puts him at L1. Thisis certainly the bus spot but still hard believe. But possible.

[The Crusher]

I'm going to stay. This isn't the spot for me to hammer. If anyone hammers here it's more interesting to look at them and their motivations to do so. I'm not sold on Ironeyes and I kind of voted Crusher just to see what would happen, but it wasn't really enough pressure on Crusher for anyone to bring out the defense. Kind of iffy about the lack of defense regarding Ironeyes, but meh. Two days in a row with CFD's and by that extent more random chance for scum to succeed is not good.

Iron eyes is at L1 here. Reluctance to hammer is obvious. Now I feel Sooh is a very solid player. Does she really think voting me would bring the only other member of my scum team to defend? That is false logic scum uses.

 

I also don't recall her making it clear why she wanted me over iron eyes. @ Sooh. Did you ever explain why you felt so strongly ironeyes could not be scum?

[The Crusher]

Wifi, No lynch is not really a train by regular standards, plus you have to take into account whether or not you think people have a natural progression. Yes, Cuth voted me, but he also stated his reasons for changing his mind, and they rang true to me. Oscar's however, he didn't really have a convincing reason to vote me to begin with, and he never solidified it or made any sort of progression on his read on me as the day moved on. That sort of stagnant behavior is highly suspicious to me.

  

Actually 

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Oscar[/v]

Making a Point maybe? Can't believe you honestly believe oscar would catch up. Still wondering what made you feel it couldn't be ironeyes.

[Sooh]

First I felt his train built up too quickly on D1, and I brought that hesitation with me into D2. Secondly I've mislynched him at least a couple of times, and I'm not the greatest at reading him, so I was hesitant.

[Sooh]

 

Wifi, No lynch is not really a train by regular standards, plus you have to take into account whether or not you think people have a natural progression. Yes, Cuth voted me, but he also stated his reasons for changing his mind, and they rang true to me. Oscar's however, he didn't really have a convincing reason to vote me to begin with, and he never solidified it or made any sort of progression on his read on me as the day moved on. That sort of stagnant behavior is highly suspicious to me.

  

Actually 

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Oscar[/v]

Making a Point maybe? Can't believe you honestly believe oscar would catch up. Still wondering what made you feel it couldn't be ironeyes.

 

This doesn't say anything about catching up though. This talks about a lack of progression. He had no more reason to vote for me at that point than he had had when he initially did, and even he said that was a flimsy reason. 

[The Crusher]

First I felt his train built up too quickly on D1, and I brought that hesitation with me into D2. Secondly I've mislynched him at least a couple of times, and I'm not the greatest at reading him, so I was hesitant.

Ok

[Cuth]

meh

 

[v]wifi[/v]

 

I do feel like trashcan is all over the place and trying to lynch everybody

 

but he did vote for iron, even if that would have been a decent spot for bussing

 

and wifi's behavior at EoDs 1 and 2 was just bad

[The Crusher]

meh

 

[v]wifi[/v]

 

I do feel like trashcan is all over the place and trying to lynch everybody

 

but he did vote for iron, even if that would have been a decent spot for bussing

 

and wifi's behavior at EoDs 1 and 2 was just bad

Have you ever seen Sooh waiver at lynch as town like she did this game?