Lego Mafia [Standard] - GAME OVER

[Cuth]

i still think she was towny there and has on the whole been quite solid

 

the EoDs concern me, with actively pushing against an iron lynch both days 

 

that said i think wifi's been less consistent over the game and has had more questionable moments, the EoDs being pretty similar to Sooh's except for the maj on iron yesterday which made essentially no difference

 

but i think sooh ending on crusher seems slightly less scummy than wifi avoiding iron completely d1 and jumping on iron once his lynch was already locked in place

 

and then immediately switching gears into full-on sooh attack mode after probing there a bit beforehand also

[Sooh]

Just out of curiosity, sooh: why do you think I am so stupid???

I honestly don't think that you're stupid at all. I think you're lovely, charming and very smart, it's just that I feel like this leap of technical knowledge in terms of mafia playing seems very large compared to the things you usually see. If this is in fact your natural progression when it comes to playing mafia, then I congratulate you, because it certainly took me longer to notice such things when I first started playing. 

 

I'm really sorry if you feel like I'm belittling you. That's the last thing I want to do, because I truly like you and respect you tremendously.

[Cuth]

sooh i would also like summarized reads on everyone in the poe from you, if you wouldn't mind :)

[Sooh]

Darthe is out of my POE, as are you, Cuth. 

 

That leaves Oscar, Crusher and Wifi.

 

I'll get started on going through that POE.

[Cuth]

Darthe is out of my POE, as are you, Cuth. 

 

That leaves Oscar, Crusher and Wifi.

 

I'll get started on going through that POE.

thanks

[Wildfire Sedai]

 

Just out of curiosity, sooh: why do you think I am so stupid???

I honestly don't think that you're stupid at all. I think you're lovely, charming and very smart, it's just that I feel like this leap of technical knowledge in terms of mafia playing seems very large compared to the things you usually see. If this is in fact your natural progression when it comes to playing mafia, then I congratulate you, because it certainly took me longer to notice such things when I first started playing. 

 

I'm really sorry if you feel like I'm belittling you. That's the last thing I want to do, because I truly like you and respect you tremendously.

 

 

sooh :wub:  

 

I'm not mad at you I just couldn't understand why you would think I wouldn't notice something like that.  Most of my games have been played with Darthe, Lenlo, Andrej, Cory, to name a few.  They have been great in explaining things to me as we go along.  That's how I noticed his what I call: Darthe's textbook mafia vote move, amongst others.   @ darthe.  anyway I have been learning a lot, except how to keep names straight and such.  

[Cuth]

wifi, could you please talk me through your read on trashcan?

[thehumantrashcan]

 

@dice what time of day are you around where you are? the only time i'm usually unavailable is 6:00 pm through 2:00 am brisbane time

 

also of note we should have minimum three mislynches if we completely screw up NAs

 

This sounds like the words of a mafia pro.  He paints himself as town and mafia in one sentence. good job.  I say good job because by painting himself as town they won't lynch him and as painting himself as mafia they won't NK him. 

 

 

Wifi you know what a turbo is?

 

 

Cool

 

Well I do pay attention sometimes.

 

Is anyone else getting the feeling that this Sooh lynch is going down way too easily? My unease is growing. 

 

Yes, which is the reason I haven't hammered.

 

wifi, despite your observation about iron, you were the first to agree with him.

 

Ugh. Motivation come to me. All of your wonderful reactions to me coming in on a high note and attempting something new successfully killed my buzz for this game. Add to that a full day of bratty kids and a head ache, and you get this mess. I probably won't be in the thread very long this evening, but I'll try to do better tomorrow. Tbh, the best I can hope for at this point is probably that my lynch will give you some reads off of other people.

This does seem townie and makes me doubt my vote along with her later post about willing to be lynched to help out today.

[Wildfire Sedai]

Ya know what sooh.  I believe you.  You aren't scum.  Cuth is.  I am going to do that ISO after all. I will use the 22 quotes from D1 and we will go from there. [unvote]

[Wildfire Sedai]

I forgot about trashcan.  Probably cause I don't want to lynch him his first game.  But if I must I must.  Let me reread oscar then we shall see.  Hopefully won't be as long as cuth.

[Sooh]

Everyone, can I get your take on Crusher please?

[Cuth]

Everyone, can I get your take on Crusher please?

was voted by ironeyes before he left for the phase on d2, voted iron on d1 

unlikely

[Cuth]

off the table imo

[Sooh]

I'm on page 14, and Ironeyes and Crusher haven't interacted yet. 

 

Wifi refused to maj on me on D1.

 

Still looking, but Crusher made sense to me as scum on D1, and I don't think bussing is beyond him/Ironeyes. 

[Sooh]

 

 

 

[v]sooh[/v]

 

i disagree with sooh and think she might be seizing an opportunity to vote

 

lenlo's attitude is towny imo as far as wanting to get some action started whenever

 

it's also fairly clear to me that he probably doesn't plan to keep his vote there all day unless there's some reason to do so and that it's more a prompt for activity than a serious accusation of scumhood

 

idk

Why do you think I voted for LenLen?

Same question for Crusher really.

How can I tell you why you voted for Len? It appeared like it was an easy place to start. Two sides of the coin. You did it to get the game going and start conversation. You did it to try and get traction on a player.

 

I didn't like this response on D1. It seemed too harsh and almost annoyed in tone. 

[Sooh]

 

I dont see a game happening. I do see a bit of hesitancy from wifi, and a thread in the same vein.

To be fair, Wifi got burned in her last game. I'm not surprised to see her change play styles a bit. 

 

I see a defense here. Mild, but it's there.

 

 

 

 

[V] wifi [/v]

What do you see?

 

 

 

I dont see a game happening. I do see a bit of hesitancy from wifi, and a thread in the same vein.

 

 

 

I dont see a game happening. I do see a bit of hesitancy from wifi, and a thread in the same vein.

I was going to say that the first message at least read awkwardly to me, in a non-wifi way, but I was biding my time. We'll see how it progresses, but you're right in that we need to get the game moving.

 

 

What is wrong with my first message?? which is quoted below.  I have used that message many a time as town .  And the rest of my posts were digging into the rl claim of oscar that he plays mafia in rl. plus I was curious about how it actually worked.  Oh and I hope this is helping to get the game moving.    

 

 

I dont see a game happening. I do see a bit of hesitancy from wifi, and a thread in the same vein.

what would you have expected her to do by now?

 

 

Yes, please answer that.  As I have stated in the start up thread that I have Pneumonia and might not be playing as much cause I am sick.  I slept in late today and then found out that I still have to do PT AND OT.  Which I wasn't planning on having to do because of the Pneumonia cause I am so tired but really wanted to play the game.  I figured I could take naps when no one else was on during the day.  

 

Hello, Everyone....

 

"I have used that message many a time as town"

 

Very self-aware. 

 

 

These two posts can be construed to mean Wifi is scum.

[Sooh]

 

@dice what time of day are you around where you are? the only time i'm usually unavailable is 6:00 pm through 2:00 am brisbane time

 

also of note we should have minimum three mislynches if we completely screw up NAs

 

This sounds like the words of a mafia pro.  He paints himself as town and mafia in one sentence. good job.  I say good job because by painting himself as town they won't lynch him and as painting himself as mafia they won't NK him. 

 

 

Wifi you know what a turbo is?

 

 

Cool

 

Well I do pay attention sometimes.

 

Is anyone else getting the feeling that this Sooh lynch is going down way too easily? My unease is growing. 

 

Yes, which is the reason I haven't hammered.

 

 

But here she has sort of a dual thing going on. First she says she's suspicious of me, and goes on about that for most of D1, then she refuses to vote, and later she writes off her entire suspicion as a joke if I interpreted her correctly.

 

*scratches head*

[Sooh]

 

hm...that's true.   lemme see.  gonna have supper soon.  Like within 15 minutes so will be gone for about half an hour to 45 minutes, unless I order out then it will be longer...

 

I have no reasonings as of yet.  all YOLO.

 

Wildfire Sedai    TOWN QUEENIE

Cuth  

Darthe

Dicetosser1

Ironeyes

Lenlo

 

 

Sooh

The Crusher

thehumantrashcan (m. Cory)

It would help if you'd give the reasons behind at least a few of these. 

 

hm...that's true.   lemme see.  gonna have supper soon.  Like within 15 minutes so will be gone for about half an hour to 45 minutes, unless I order out then it will be longer...

 

I have no reasonings as of yet.  all YOLO.

 

Wildfire Sedai    TOWN QUEENIE

Cuth  

Darthe

Dicetosser1

Ironeyes

Lenlo

 

 

Sooh

The Crusher

thehumantrashcan (m. Cory)

 

Is it strange you have the vote leader and two people on her train in your scum pile?  

unvote vote wifi

Snap votes R us over here. I don't know what to make of it but it caught my attention. 

 

It's been a busy day but I have half an hour to spare, so I'll put together my own read list now. 

 

First interaction between Crusher and Ironeyes that I caught going through pg 1-17.

[Cuth]

yeah but then crusher snap voted iron lol

[Sooh]

Of course most of these are still null, but this where on the null spectrum I have them. 

 

Town: Ironeyes 

 

Towny: Both of these are for activity, scumhunting, and WIM. 

Lenlo

Cuth

 

Lean town: 

Sooh: For similar reasons as the above two, just tainted by the odd reaction test. I really want to believe that was town-motivated experimentation with play styles. 

Darthe: Would have been in there with Len and Cuth, but his vote on Sooh, even while we approached a hammer, seemed opportunistic. 

 

 

Null: 

Dice: Hasn't given me reason to clear or suspect him, just hovering in the middle. 

WiFi: I dunno even what to do with WiFi. I never do, TBH. 

 

Lean scum:

Crush: Showing up just to drop random votes rubs me wrong. 

Oscar: Erratic is the best word for his play so far, I think. Possibly cover for opportunism. 

Ironeyes' first reads.

 

Scum do like to place other scum in their null reads. Then again, according to Ironeyes this whole list is null.

[Cuth]

 

Of course most of these are still null, but this where on the null spectrum I have them. 

 

Town: Ironeyes 

 

Towny: Both of these are for activity, scumhunting, and WIM. 

Lenlo

Cuth

 

Lean town: 

Sooh: For similar reasons as the above two, just tainted by the odd reaction test. I really want to believe that was town-motivated experimentation with play styles. 

Darthe: Would have been in there with Len and Cuth, but his vote on Sooh, even while we approached a hammer, seemed opportunistic. 

 

 

Null: 

Dice: Hasn't given me reason to clear or suspect him, just hovering in the middle. 

WiFi: I dunno even what to do with WiFi. I never do, TBH. 

 

Lean scum:

Crush: Showing up just to drop random votes rubs me wrong. 

Oscar: Erratic is the best word for his play so far, I think. Possibly cover for opportunism. 

Ironeyes' first reads.

 

Scum do like to place other scum in their null reads. Then again, according to Ironeyes this whole list is null.

 

even then it does seem a little strange to put your partner in "lean scum" with only one other person

[Sooh]

 

 

 

[V] marsh [/v] that was wonderful, also slight fos cuth for the unvote.

 

I provide theead doubt and marsh and wifi jump in to do the same right after. I gave cover, they took it.

 

Also, marsh didnt respond well to me calling him town.

Wait, explain this to me? I literally have no clue what you mean by me taking your "doubt" or "cover." Or why my response to you calling me town was bad.

I choose not to.

Well that isn't going to help you build a train on me if that was your goal. Unless this is some sort of trap or reaction test or whatever. 

 

Pretty sure Darthe is clear, even though I was already leaning that way.

[Sooh]

 

WILDFIRE'S CURRENT READS LIST

 

 

Cuth- NULL/SLIGHT TOWNIE - I totally misread his post.  The one about 3 mislynches and NA'S.  I thought that he was mixing townie and mafia together, then sooh posted about mixing up NA and NK.  Then I was like   really.  and figured out the post. I still think he is a good mafia player, though.

 

Darthe - NULL/SLIGHT SCUMMY -  not sure on darthe.  He did that, "oh I threw out cover bit and so and so bit so, so and so is wolf and so is town. " yes, I know I'm missing a so, in there somewhere or two. but hell.  I already said my suss on sooh was a joke.  That's why I said what I did about it being too soon or whatever. [i don't care about exact wording ATP]

 

Dicetosser1 - NULL- not enough info yet....a work in progress

 

Ironeyes - NULL - Okay, so, I am not sure about him either. He seems more townie than darthe. but there is nothing there.  

 

Lenlo - NULL - So he did make a couple of game related posts. However, not enough to warrant a read one way or the other.

 

Sooh - NULL/SLIGHTLY TOWNIE - So, I finally made my first decision on sooh outside of the RVS part.  Anyway, she tried a new tactic, for her, to get the game going.  For me that gives her townie points.

 

The Crusher - NULL - even though he's voting me I have him as null because there just isn't enough info to go on.

 

thehumantrashcan (m. Cory) - NULL - not enough info.

 

Wildfire Sedai - TOWN QUEENIE

 

 

 

 

 

DISCLAIMER: this reads list WILL CHANGE and on a WHIM!

 

In relation to Ironeyes once again this reads list isn't very good.

[Sooh]

 

 

Of course most of these are still null, but this where on the null spectrum I have them. 

 

Town: Ironeyes 

 

Towny: Both of these are for activity, scumhunting, and WIM. 

Lenlo

Cuth

 

Lean town: 

Sooh: For similar reasons as the above two, just tainted by the odd reaction test. I really want to believe that was town-motivated experimentation with play styles. 

Darthe: Would have been in there with Len and Cuth, but his vote on Sooh, even while we approached a hammer, seemed opportunistic. 

 

 

Null: 

Dice: Hasn't given me reason to clear or suspect him, just hovering in the middle. 

WiFi: I dunno even what to do with WiFi. I never do, TBH. 

 

Lean scum:

Crush: Showing up just to drop random votes rubs me wrong. 

Oscar: Erratic is the best word for his play so far, I think. Possibly cover for opportunism. 

 

 

Ironeyes' first reads.

 

Scum do like to place other scum in their null reads. Then again, according to Ironeyes this whole list is null.

 

even then it does seem a little strange to put your partner in "lean scum" with only one other person

 

Yeah, I know. I'm just going through the motions here to land on who I suspect more, so right now I'm just flagging all I see. 

[Eldrick4221]

Vote Count Day 3

 

Sooh (1): thehumantrashcan

 

Wifi (2): Cuth, Sooh

 

Not voting (3): Darthe, The Crusher, Wifi

 

With 6 alive, it takes 4 for majority.