[Advanced] Old West Mischief Mafia - Town Wins!

[Eldrick4221]

Oh. Forgot wiffy.

 

She's a tentative scum read for a recent post. One you already commented on, bfg. The voting Lizclov because of potential deep wolf.

 

*send to the cloud flare*

[Eldrick4221]

ugh 13 more pages.

Looking forward to your input :)

[dicetosser1]

 

Ok thanks,

 

Eldrick pointed out that he did this as a hydra with Sooh (in a game you were in?) so why is it scummy?

 

 

 

WiFi pointed out a time when as scum she voted/invited off her counterwagon, when the cw was town one day and fellow scum the next, why is that anything other than WIFOM? Liz's counter is that NB restarted the train on her AFTER it was dying down, why restart it to then decide afterwards to try and save them?

 

I can't read anything into the unvote, I can think of reasons NB did it if they were town, I can see the argument for doing it as teammates, but his approach during the day makes little sense if teammates

 

 

 

I will admit the errors bug me a little, but so do their clarifications, I don't think either would intentionally misrep as scum, but I can't put much value in that.

 

 

 

 

 

How is Eldricka vote a bus vote if he's third party? Can you go into more detail than 'scummy as all...'

 

 

Why did you been needing to choose between Eldrick/Mrs Clov all day, if you think Mrs Clov/Liz are scum and Eldrick is 3P?

 

 

As far as I know, NB didn't look/sus anyone other than (Eldrick/)Mrs Clov/Liz, do you think that likely from teammates?

 

 

the vote came d1 before any 3p talk started and that was my immeadiate reaction to it

 

as for choosing? cause im well aware that im in a tunnel. i still think im right but that doesnt mean i dont want to actually look and think     then of course i got the cranks and voted anyway and i just refuse to unvote at this point.

 

TBH i wasnt paying much attention to NB D1  my unvote question came about reading discussion later

 

 

red  did what?

[seph]

 

ugh 13 more pages.

Looking forward to your input :)

About what lol. There was hardly anything new, just a lot of rehashing old things.

There really isn't any reason not to lynch Darthe or tink today.

 

Especially if the options are lizclov and eldrick.

[Eldrick4221]

Red. Waited to vote someone so I could discuss with Sooh, then impulse voted someone else.

 

It's a getting used to hydra thing imo

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

ugh 13 more pages.

Looking forward to your input :)

About what lol. There was hardly anything new, just a lot of rehashing old things.

There really isn't any reason not to lynch Darthe or tink today.

 

Especially if the options are lizclov and eldrick.

Basically on where you want to vote lol.

 

I'm willing to move to tink if you would prefer that. Liz can go there too when she gets here. Town votes should consolidate.

 

I would prefer Darthe, but tink is better than Lizclov or me by a large margin

[dicetosser1]

Red. Waited to vote someone so I could discuss with Sooh, then impulse voted someone else.

 

It's a getting used to hydra thing imo

 

theres a big difference between you and liz.

[Eldrick4221]

 

Red. Waited to vote someone so I could discuss with Sooh, then impulse voted someone else.

 

It's a getting used to hydra thing imo

theres a big difference between you and liz.

Why?

[seph]

there is so much arguing on this thread. mafia would be a much better if it was a polite game. aka mafia without lying ftw


Seph: hey crusher you mafia?
Crusher: Sadly I am
Seph: Who are your teammates?
Crusher: Tattling is rude and you are going to have to ask them yourselfs
seph:ok thank you, I had a pleasure playing with you. Guys we should lynch crusher
Crusehr: good game guys it was fun. 

The end.
This story has 0 to do with the actual game and the scenario in the story is completely made up.

[seph]

bfg have you ever tried to play more scummy when you are town? its always pretty damn obvious lol

[dicetosser1]

so i really need to explain this eld?  you are totally different players.  you flip flop so much u may as well live in a ball rolling down hill. you consulting with sooh made sense for you

 

liz is more forthright  amd its not just that she wanted to consult  its that she had to do that for one player but not another.

 

and has anyone noticed how that vote and that reason are the thing people just KEEP bringing up. I have said other stuff about them you know. I will NOT answer anymore questions about this

[seph]

so i really need to explain this eld?  you are totally different players.  you flip flop so much u may as well live in a ball rolling down hill. you consulting with sooh made sense for you

 

liz is more forthright  amd its not just that she wanted to consult  its that she had to do that for one player but not another.

 

and has anyone noticed how that vote and that reason are the thing people just KEEP bringing up. I have said other stuff about them you know. I will NOT answer anymore questions about this

consuls dice, there there. I noticed people questioning dice about him staying on lizzyclov and tunneling but me and dice have literally played a game and voted each other for 3 day phases, I don't think that in itself is alignment indicative.  

 

wanna go spotfine some people? it will make you feel better, look Im going to post in the band right now

[dicetosser1]

i will come spotfine u in afew hrs seph  im goin to bed  will try to be up for DL but that is 3am for me

[Eldrick4221]

so i really need to explain this eld? you are totally different players. you flip flop so much u may as well live in a ball rolling down hill. you consulting with sooh made sense for you

 

liz is more forthright amd its not just that she wanted to consult its that she had to do that for one player but not another.

 

and has anyone noticed how that vote and that reason are the thing people just KEEP bringing up. I have said other stuff about them you know. I will NOT answer anymore questions about this

It's not about whether or not the consult was a good thing. It's about how the impulse vote isn't a bad thing.

 

Point that was already brought up is that cass telling her to vote on her own is a factor. A point you seem to be ignoring.

 

I also think part of your issue with it is her vote was on you. That you would feel differently if it wasn't.

[seph]

all 8 of my multiquotes disappeared.. welll rip.
 

[BFG]

bfg have you ever tried to play more scummy when you are town? its always pretty damn obvious lol

Lol what? My scum game is at a point where I can fool/get a town read from most people for between 1 to 2 game days, but they always catch on eventually

 

Also what sort of airport doesn't have free WIFI (although they win brownie points for actually letting people walk across the runway lol)

[BFG]

 

so i really need to explain this eld? you are totally different players. you flip flop so much u may as well live in a ball rolling down hill. you consulting with sooh made sense for you

 

liz is more forthright amd its not just that she wanted to consult its that she had to do that for one player but not another.

 

and has anyone noticed how that vote and that reason are the thing people just KEEP bringing up. I have said other stuff about them you know. I will NOT answer anymore questions about this

It's not about whether or not the consult was a good thing. It's about how the impulse vote isn't a bad thing.

 

Point that was already brought up is that cass telling her to vote on her own is a factor. A point you seem to be ignoring.

 

I also think part of your issue with it is her vote was on you. That you would feel differently if it wasn't.

 

Actually Dice hasn't ignored that, there was a bridge picture about it and everything :p

[seph]

 

bfg have you ever tried to play more scummy when you are town? its always pretty damn obvious lol

Lol what? My scum game is at a point where I can fool/get a town read from most people for between 1 to 2 game days, but they always catch on eventually

 

Also what sort of airport doesn't have free WIFI (although they win brownie points for actually letting people walk across the runway lol)

 

well i guess I haven't played with you for a long time. But I would bet my piggy bank your town. 

 

 

I have 5 dollars in there!

 

 

[seph]

Does anyone know where darthe says that he thought lizclov was town so he voted notbob? or something along the lines that lizabeth mentioned?

I remember talking after eod with him, and him going really hard at lizclov again which makes 0 sense to me. The problem with darthe is I feel like he is more focused on pushing certain lynches than figuring everyone out. I will say I did note he did it a little but with kronos, but I have disliked most of his play since eod.

[BFG]

 

so i really need to explain this eld?  you are totally different players.  you flip flop so much u may as well live in a ball rolling down hill. you consulting with sooh made sense for you

 

liz is more forthright  amd its not just that she wanted to consult  its that she had to do that for one player but not another.

 

and has anyone noticed how that vote and that reason are the thing people just KEEP bringing up. I have said other stuff about them you know. I will NOT answer anymore questions about this

consuls dice, there there. I noticed people questioning dice about him staying on lizzyclov and tunneling but me and dice have literally played a game and voted each other for 3 day phases, I don't think that in itself is alignment indicative.  

 

wanna go spotfine some people? it will make you feel better, look Im going to post in the band right now

 

It's not about the tunnelling, I know Dice can tunnel as town (assuming he was town that game) it's the narrow focus that's with it (which I guess means it is about the tunnel). In that game did he have other reads that he shared openly? Afaik this game he has Liz as scum, Eldrick as scum and thought Cass might be town early on. He shared more reads when I asked, but they're normally in thread without being asked (note to ISO and check this)

 

I have maybe 3 plus points for Dice this game

The vote was very early and actually semi-game related (as opposed to the semi-out of game stuff Dice tends to focus on when he's scum)

He does have multiple suspects

Some of his responses to people read very Dice-like (response to Darthe earlyish was one)

 

 

I'm not sure how to weigh those up against the fact that he's been mostly closed with his reads. I kind of wish I'd sat on this a bit longer to see a longer trend, but I know this read is colouring my perception of the thread and so is one I need to deal with

 

If I had a stronger town read on Liz/Mrs Clov or a stronger mafia read on Dice this game would feel a lot easier :(

[BFG]

Does anyone know where darthe says that he thought lizclov was town so he voted notbob? or something along the lines that lizabeth mentioned?

 

I remember talking after eod with him, and him going really hard at lizclov again which makes 0 sense to me. The problem with darthe is I feel like he is more focused on pushing certain lynches than figuring everyone out. I will say I did note he did it a little but with kronos, but I have disliked most of his play since eod.

How thread leadery has Darthe been this game?

[seph]

Im re reading darth atm to see how I feel. Im going to multiquote a few things and would like your opinion on them.

[seph]

 

Does anyone know where darthe says that he thought lizclov was town so he voted notbob? or something along the lines that lizabeth mentioned?

 

I remember talking after eod with him, and him going really hard at lizclov again which makes 0 sense to me. The problem with darthe is I feel like he is more focused on pushing certain lynches than figuring everyone out. I will say I did note he did it a little but with kronos, but I have disliked most of his play since eod.

How thread leadery has Darthe been this game?

 

not as much as usual imo. I feel like early game was fairly spot on but he didn't do much besides tunnel liz. brag about how he caught a wolf etc etc lol. I feel like he has mainly been pushing for a lynch rather than figuring out the game.

This is mainly from my memory which is why I am rereading currently. The thing that bugged me the most is my convo right after eod when I ask him to stop tunneling because lizclov is most likely town. Being the leading wagon when before we got it switched. it was 6-2 at one point with mrsclov being the 2nd vote on notbob.

 

anyways shortly after our discussion and i believe some questions from other people you see his focus change to eldrick. the other wagon from day 1.

 

Now I did note darthe said that he could vote any wagon within the next few hours, and around eod he did not push mrsclov wagon at all. 

[BFG]

so i really need to explain this eld?  you are totally different players.  you flip flop so much u may as well live in a ball rolling down hill. you consulting with sooh made sense for you

 

liz is more forthright  amd its not just that she wanted to consult  its that she had to do that for one player but not another.

 

and has anyone noticed how that vote and that reason are the thing people just KEEP bringing up. I have said other stuff about them you know. I will NOT answer anymore questions about this

/shrug I also brought up your points on defensiveness and the misreps

 

But your second point is EXACTLY what Eldrick did, he said he was going to have to ask Sooh before voting one player, then YOLO voted another without talking to Sooh about it at all

 

Liz is a different player from Eldrick, but why haven't you addressed this before? It was a point raised by one suspect of yours about your second suspect. This also reads a little similarly to how you reacted to Cass correcting your initial reason to vote. You accepted the correction, then changed your reason to maintain the sus (you said it was because they didn't want to vote second which they never said, then you said it was because of the contradiction). You now know that the contradiction can come from town, but not Liz!town? All your recent reasons come from their interactions with you. Do you have any opinion on their interactions with other players?

[BFG]

 

 

Does anyone know where darthe says that he thought lizclov was town so he voted notbob? or something along the lines that lizabeth mentioned?

 

I remember talking after eod with him, and him going really hard at lizclov again which makes 0 sense to me. The problem with darthe is I feel like he is more focused on pushing certain lynches than figuring everyone out. I will say I did note he did it a little but with kronos, but I have disliked most of his play since eod.

How thread leadery has Darthe been this game?

 

not as much as usual imo. I feel like early game was fairly spot on but he didn't do much besides tunnel liz. brag about how he caught a wolf etc etc lol. I feel like he has mainly been pushing for a lynch rather than figuring out the game.

This is mainly from my memory which is why I am rereading currently. The thing that bugged me the most is my convo right after eod when I ask him to stop tunneling because lizclov is most likely town. Being the leading wagon when before we got it switched. it was 6-2 at one point with mrsclov being the 2nd vote on notbob.

 

anyways shortly after our discussion and i believe some questions from other people you see his focus change to eldrick. the other wagon from day 1.

 

Now I did note darthe said that he could vote any wagon within the next few hours, and around eod he did not push mrsclov wagon at all.

 

Ok I have maybe 10/15more minutes before my flight boards, but I'll have another hour wish at the next airport and should be back before deadline

 

I'll vote at the next stop, I'm grabbing Mrs Clovs votes post, I want to figure out what the wagons were doing and can do that on the plane :)