[Advanced] Old West Mischief Mafia - Town Wins!

[Eldrick4221]

If you want to continue talking about it, fine.

 

How do you find something if you aren't looking for it?

In case that wasn't clear enough. PR hints are hints because they aren't obvious. They are something you have to look for.

 

So why were you looking?

 

Remember, you wanted to keep talking about this.

[dicetosser1]

Wow Dice. You seem to be really cranky right now.

 

 

Glad to see your reads aren't going to evolve past D1 reads. Liz and I have been in the thread posting our thoughts trying to solve the game, even though only a few people seem to acknowledge that because it's not "their" way. You are essentially lynching me because I made a wording mistake and misread a post, which I have apologized for both times but apparently, that makes me scum in your mind. Have fun with that. I can't reason with someone who refuses to even remotely discuss anything, nor am I going to try. Enjoy parking your vote on town, Dice. I assume that if we're the lynch you'll just put your vote on Eldrick D3. Because why even remotely move past D1 and try to solve the game.

 

 

I'm going to bed. No clue if I'll be around at deadline. Not sure what Liz's schedule is tomorrow so she may or may not be either. 

 

the two of you have misrepresented me a number of times. Im sick of it. I think ure scum so i will be buggered if i just let that go with no reason to. You two havent played a town game. youve spent the game defensive youve spent the game screaming look at someone else but YOU ARNT HUNTING.  Your scum reads seem to be the people going you with 2 exceptions   sorry 1 exception  me  cause liz flipped on darthe didnt she?

 

that vote has a LOT of annoyance in it. I had been holding off reading the thread trying to make a balanced vote but then you misrep me AGAIN and not once but twice within a couple of pages. What you were hoping I wouldnt be here tonight to comment on it? oops that didnt work did it?

 

Your ABSOLUTELY right  RIGHT NOW about i will be voting you and eldrick  i think your scum  i actually think he very well may be 3p  so where else should i vote? the people i think are town?

[MrsClov]

 

I'm going to bed. No clue if I'll be around at deadline. Not sure what Liz's schedule is tomorrow so she may or may not be either.

Well if you're not moving, then I'm probably staying. Our chances of lynching not one of us goes down dramatically if we split votes.

Do what you have to do, Eld. I'm not opposed to moving a vote. I just haven't got a chance to talk to Liz about it. I'll try to get on in the morning and see where everything is at, and I left Liz my thoughts so if she's on I'm sure she'll do whatever needs to be done.

 

K , going to bed for real now. Good night.

[Eldrick4221]

Why on earth would you vote a supposed 3p over a scum read?

[Eldrick4221]

I am also wtv dice today. This last few exchanges have been horrid.

[dicetosser1]

If you want to continue talking about it, fine.

 

How do you find something if you aren't looking for it?

 

by reading what they write. by reading how they wrote it. hints can be subtle the can not be subtle too.

 

theyve   no liz is the one in my mind with this      have been doing a whole im not getting lynched talking  that PROJECTS that there is a REASON you wont get lynched no matter what. that pretty much translates to a role.

 

It DOESNT neccesarily translate to the person doing it is town cause scum do it too same as scum fake claim town roles and can get away with it.

[Eldrick4221]

Darthe/tink/dice

 

Where I'm voting today

[dicetosser1]

I am also wtv dice today. This last few exchanges have been horrid.

 

lmao  i give up.

[Eldrick4221]

 

If you want to continue talking about it, fine.

 

How do you find something if you aren't looking for it?

by reading what they write. by reading how they wrote it. hints can be subtle the can not be subtle too.

 

theyve no liz is the one in my mind with this have been doing a whole im not getting lynched talking that PROJECTS that there is a REASON you wont get lynched no matter what. that pretty much translates to a role.

 

It DOESNT neccesarily translate to the person doing it is town cause scum do it too same as scum fake claim town roles and can get away with it.

It also translates to confidence. They could be roled or not saying that. And I don't care.

 

All that matters to me us that they are town.

[Eldrick4221]

Is*

[BFG]

Dice you still here?

[dicetosser1]

yes  grudgingly

 

warning  im annoyed

[BFG]

@Darthe, I will grant you they are lazy reads but they're based more on (very) lazy train analysis than anything else/generic tells than anything else.

 

Why is Crusher obviously clear? Why is DPR obviously town?

[BFG]

yes  grudgingly

 

warning  im annoyed

Ok?

 

Can you walk me through your read on Liz/Mrs Clov and Eldrick? What are your other reads?

[dicetosser1]

BFG how much game have you actually read?

[BFG]

BFG how much game have you actually read?

Lol this hasn't changed in the last 5 hours cos sleep and stuff.

 

I've read maybe half the thread, I've read more from Day 2 than Day 1, I missed most of the Liz/Mrs Clov train build up.

 

I'm unlikely to have masses of time to play till Monday, cos holiday and flying and stuff so my game is mostly going to be going from here and adjusting opinions based on thread stuff

[BFG]

Ugh I have 20 minutes to pack and find a taxi to the airport, I'll hopefully be back in an hour or so

[dicetosser1]

i think darthe dpr are town leaning that way on crusher   oh and kronos has been towny

 

Darthe is just being a pain in the pila. he is totally trolling liz, refusing to answer her and telling her to get on his level and stuff. just nutty Darthe

 

DPR has just plain been scum hunting

 

kronos is making good points

 

and crusher sussed nb early and voted him when it mattered. Have liked his responses as well

 

 

 

liz/mrs clov   for like the 4th time   it started cause liz couldnt vote darthe without consultation yet could and did vote me without it in the same time period. i did mistake when i first posted it what she actually said but on checking still didnt like it.

 

theyve been defensive since too early. after 3 or 4 votes fine  but not after 1 or 2. 

 

liz particularly has been screaming look at them look at them but hasnt actually done any real scum hunting and i dont think ive agreed with any of their arguments.

 

as said when i blew up ive been misrepresented a bunch of times  and its finally completely annoyed me.

 

their train day one is flying along then totally stalled and became glacial and people who were on them are now massively town reading them but im damned if i get why

 

they were lead train and under lots of pressure ALL D1  right up to close to DL yet like i said not a hint of a claim yet they are saying "im not getting lynched" in a way that projects that they have some card up their sleeve.

 

Also the trains were lix/mrs clov 6 nb 5  nb is on lix/mrsclov WHY DOES SCUM UNVOTE THE LEAD TRAIN IF IT IS TOWN and then vote eldrick who had like 2 votes or something?

 

 

 

 

Eldrick is just scummy as all get out  I originally got sus of him when he voted liz/msr clov cause as soon as he did it i thought "bus vote"  since then he unvoted and has been sitting on a fence post ever since.

 

his reaction to seph suggesting he was 3p just wasnt vehement enuff imo  hence me thinking he is most likely 3p

[dicetosser1]

 

BFG how much game have you actually read?

Lol this hasn't changed in the last 5 hours cos sleep and stuff.

 

I've read maybe half the thread, I've read more from Day 2 than Day 1, I missed most of the Liz/Mrs Clov train build up.

 

I'm unlikely to have masses of time to play till Monday, cos holiday and flying and stuff so my game is mostly going to be going from here and adjusting opinions based on thread stuff

 

 

i was asking so i knew how much detail to give

[seph]

ugh 13 more pages.

[BFG]

 

 

BFG how much game have you actually read?

Lol this hasn't changed in the last 5 hours cos sleep and stuff.

 

I've read maybe half the thread, I've read more from Day 2 than Day 1, I missed most of the Liz/Mrs Clov train build up.

 

I'm unlikely to have masses of time to play till Monday, cos holiday and flying and stuff so my game is mostly going to be going from here and adjusting opinions based on thread stuff

 

 

i was asking so i knew how much detail to give

 

Ok thanks,

 

Eldrick pointed out that he did this as a hydra with Sooh (in a game you were in?) so why is it scummy?

 

 

 

WiFi pointed out a time when as scum she voted/invited off her counterwagon, when the cw was town one day and fellow scum the next, why is that anything other than WIFOM? Liz's counter is that NB restarted the train on her AFTER it was dying down, why restart it to then decide afterwards to try and save them?

 

I can't read anything into the unvote, I can think of reasons NB did it if they were town, I can see the argument for doing it as teammates, but his approach during the day makes little sense if teammates

 

 

 

I will admit the errors bug me a little, but so do their clarifications, I don't think either would intentionally misrep as scum, but I can't put much value in that.

 

 

 

 

 

How is Eldricka vote a bus vote if he's third party? Can you go into more detail than 'scummy as all...'

 

 

Why did you been needing to choose between Eldrick/Mrs Clov all day, if you think Mrs Clov/Liz are scum and Eldrick is 3P?

 

 

As far as I know, NB didn't look/sus anyone other than (Eldrick/)Mrs Clov/Liz, do you think that likely from teammates?

[seph]

well at least now we know spoofs spot was town lol. I also feel even better about wifi at the moment.

[seph]

well at least now we know spoofs spot was town lol. I also feel even better about wifi at the moment.

[BFG]

^EBWOP *errors bug me, bit their clarifications make sense

[Eldrick4221]

I don't know how I've been fence sitting when I have 3 really strong town reads and now 4 scum reads.

 

I was originally suss of Lizclov because of their "who are my teammates" post (309 I think). It got a LOT of attention. I slept on it and realized that for a post to get that much attention, it's probably from town. Scum isn't usually that obvious. Since that point I have liked basically everything they said. They make a lot of sense to me.

 

Seph's Unvote because Cuth asked him too is really the only point about him that bugs me. He has really put the work in to figure out this game, and I won't be lynching him.

 

Cuth and I are on such a similar brainwave it's scary. He makes complete sense. I won't lynch there either.

 

 

Dpr to me gives the pretense of scum hunting, but his theories don't make sense. It doesn't help matters that his scum reads are my town reads. He could be misguided town, but the way he seems to be crafting stories to make them fit feels scummy.

 

Darthe has just been bad. He doesn't listen to reason. His push on Lizclov has huge errors and he ignores them or brushes them off when they are addressed. This is classic scum!darthe in my experience and I want him dead. There's also his interactions with notbob which don't feel like figuring him out.

 

Tink is a lesser read for me. I haven't really looked into him, but agree on the points that have been brought against him. Will vote here only to save MrsClov and myself, as I know I'm town and trust that they are.

 

Dice was recently a town read for me. Discussion with me today has made me reconsider. Not a strong scum read here either, but not a town one anymore.