[Advanced] Old West Mischief Mafia - Town Wins!

[MrsClov]

 

@Eldrick did you ever get any more information on what decision you had to make last night?

No.

 

I have no idea what it did.

 

 

Well that's weird. 

[The Crusher]

 

He might be a little lavish at doing so, but he's put a significant amount of work into legitimate scum hunting.  He's not relying on tone and meta - he is instead questioning motives and pretty solidly sticks to them.  It screams town to me.

 

Where did you see scumhunting? I know I might be biased, but what I've seen is tunneling. Where have you seen him actually trying to explore someone else's alignment?

 

 

And I'm starting to think that I might have a different definition for "scumhunting" than a lot of you people do...

 

You are like a lady magician. Turn anything someone says into whatever you want it to be . You ask him why he thinks DPR is town, he answers scum hunting , you response is us people don't be knowing scum hunting like Lizabeth be knowing scum hunting. Holy hell dear are you by any chance Kin to integrity28 also known as John McClane here? He retired from mafia. I missed him deeply. I hope you never leave me.

[Cuth]

liza and clov

 

given your deep-seated conviction about the scumminess of darthe, why are you voting on tiinker

[DPR]

 

 

Here we go - get a load of this:

 

Ok. Had to wait for mod conformation about if I could even talk about it.

 

Last night, presumably at the beginning of night phase, I was to make a choice. I can't go into specifics because of mod communication and whatnot, but suffice to say I'm worried about the result of the choice.

 

Due to the obscure nature of the question, it feels like depending on what I picked, one of us will die. If there's a doc, and they have nothing better to do, I would like protection. I don't trust the outcome of this role, whatever it's doing.

 

If it's result is a kill, I would like to thwart it. It does not feel like a town ability.

 

that's never scum

 

it's also not role-fishing

 

unless the scum team has a watcher or something

 

rolefishing is enticing people to publicly out their roles, which is not the case

 

 

 

And you don't see this as a catalyst to get a Doc to somehow reveal themselves - or to get conversation about roles in general started?

 

You got anything else? 

[MrsClov]

liza and clov

 

given your deep-seated conviction about the scumminess of darthe, why are you voting on tiinker

 

We think he could be scum as well based on his lack of interaction, voting with no explanation, and then not posting after it. I posted a big long reads list sometime last night. 

[WolfbrotherKronos]

 

 

He might be a little lavish at doing so, but he's put a significant amount of work into legitimate scum hunting.  He's not relying on tone and meta - he is instead questioning motives and pretty solidly sticks to them.  It screams town to me.

Where did you see scumhunting? I know I might be biased, but what I've seen is tunneling. Where have you seen him actually trying to explore someone else's alignment?

 

 

And I'm starting to think that I might have a different definition for "scumhunting" than a lot of you people do...

 

You are like a lady magician. Turn anything someone says into whatever you want it to be . You ask him why he thinks DPR is town, he answers scum hunting , you response is us people don't be knowing scum hunting like Lizabeth be knowing scum hunting. Holy hell dear are you by any chance Kin to integrity28 also known as John McClane here? He retired from mafia. I missed him deeply. I hope you never leave me.

 

 

I quote this to actually respond to Liz not Crusher because I'm not going to find the original quote.  I apparently missed it.

 

DPR pointed in his post several people he thought were scum.  His focus is on you because he sees you as the link.  Whether or not I agree with it is irrelevant, I see it as scum hunting.

[Cuth]

 

 

 

Here we go - get a load of this:

 

Ok. Had to wait for mod conformation about if I could even talk about it.

 

Last night, presumably at the beginning of night phase, I was to make a choice. I can't go into specifics because of mod communication and whatnot, but suffice to say I'm worried about the result of the choice.

 

Due to the obscure nature of the question, it feels like depending on what I picked, one of us will die. If there's a doc, and they have nothing better to do, I would like protection. I don't trust the outcome of this role, whatever it's doing.

 

If it's result is a kill, I would like to thwart it. It does not feel like a town ability.

 

that's never scum

 

it's also not role-fishing

 

unless the scum team has a watcher or something

 

rolefishing is enticing people to publicly out their roles, which is not the case

 

 

 

And you don't see this as a catalyst to get a Doc to somehow reveal themselves - or to get conversation about roles in general started?

 

You got anything else? 

 

why on earth would the doctor reveal themselves in thread

[Cuth]

 

liza and clov

 

given your deep-seated conviction about the scumminess of darthe, why are you voting on tiinker

 

We think he could be scum as well based on his lack of interaction, voting with no explanation, and then not posting after it. I posted a big long reads list sometime last night. 

 

why is tiinker more likely scum than darthe

[DPR]

 

 

 

 

Here we go - get a load of this:

 

Ok. Had to wait for mod conformation about if I could even talk about it.

 

Last night, presumably at the beginning of night phase, I was to make a choice. I can't go into specifics because of mod communication and whatnot, but suffice to say I'm worried about the result of the choice.

 

Due to the obscure nature of the question, it feels like depending on what I picked, one of us will die. If there's a doc, and they have nothing better to do, I would like protection. I don't trust the outcome of this role, whatever it's doing.

 

If it's result is a kill, I would like to thwart it. It does not feel like a town ability.

 

that's never scum

 

it's also not role-fishing

 

unless the scum team has a watcher or something

 

rolefishing is enticing people to publicly out their roles, which is not the case

 

 

 

And you don't see this as a catalyst to get a Doc to somehow reveal themselves - or to get conversation about roles in general started?

 

You got anything else? 

 

why on earth would the doctor reveal themselves in thread

 

 

 

I have no idea - but then, I can't explain half of what's going on in this game and other than signaling for some weird reason, role fishing was the only other productive point that I could see.

 

You gone do anything else besides giggle and ask droll questions?

[The Crusher]

 Hope some more people join the thread and actually contribute to a real analysis. ~ lizabeth

 

what am I chopped liver???

Chopped liver? Hey. How you doing?

[MrsClov]

 

 

liza and clov

 

given your deep-seated conviction about the scumminess of darthe, why are you voting on tiinker

 

We think he could be scum as well based on his lack of interaction, voting with no explanation, and then not posting after it. I posted a big long reads list sometime last night. 

 

why is tiinker more likely scum than darthe

 

 

Not saying that he is. We had a list of a few different people we thought could be scum. We decided to vote Tinker, in part to see if he'll come into the thread and give us more information. 

[Cuth]

 

 

 

 

 

Here we go - get a load of this:

 

Ok. Had to wait for mod conformation about if I could even talk about it.

 

Last night, presumably at the beginning of night phase, I was to make a choice. I can't go into specifics because of mod communication and whatnot, but suffice to say I'm worried about the result of the choice.

 

Due to the obscure nature of the question, it feels like depending on what I picked, one of us will die. If there's a doc, and they have nothing better to do, I would like protection. I don't trust the outcome of this role, whatever it's doing.

 

If it's result is a kill, I would like to thwart it. It does not feel like a town ability.

 

that's never scum

 

it's also not role-fishing

 

unless the scum team has a watcher or something

 

rolefishing is enticing people to publicly out their roles, which is not the case

 

 

 

And you don't see this as a catalyst to get a Doc to somehow reveal themselves - or to get conversation about roles in general started?

 

You got anything else? 

 

why on earth would the doctor reveal themselves in thread

 

 

 

I have no idea - but then, I can't explain half of what's going on in this game and other than signaling for some weird reason, role fishing was the only other productive point that I could see.

 

You gone do anything else besides giggle and ask droll questions?

 

do you legitimately expect that something equivalent to the doctor revealing themselves in thread would happen? if not, and the player is simply calling for protection out of concern for his life, then don't call it rolefishing

 

yes, i am 

[The Crusher]

 

I am doing my best

 

I know. I'm intense, but I don't mean it to be mean, so I'm sorry if it comes across that way.

Mean? Jenny Craig is mean. You is feisty.

[The Crusher]

 

 

 

But, I guess if you're talking passive-aggressive playstyles.

 

DPR You should smile more! It will make you look prettier

 

 

With all sincerity, it was not meant to reflect gender at all. It was meant to be a humorous comment at her rather serious expression - nothing to do with "pretty".

 

I'm good to spar in the games, as you've embraced with our pet names. But please know that it is never my intention to make things personal or to hurt feelings - this is supposed to be fun.

"Alex", "I would like shit you would never hear on JN even after hell froze over for seven fitty"

 

Nonsense. I said something almost identical to JiF just last week.

.

 

Played well there Pirate. Played well.

[DPR]

 

 

 

 

But, I guess if you're talking passive-aggressive playstyles.

 

DPR You should smile more! It will make you look prettier

 

With all sincerity, it was not meant to reflect gender at all. It was meant to be a humorous comment at her rather serious expression - nothing to do with "pretty".

 

I'm good to spar in the games, as you've embraced with our pet names. But please know that it is never my intention to make things personal or to hurt feelings - this is supposed to be fun.

"Alex", "I would like shit you would never hear on JN even after hell froze over for seven fitty"

 

Nonsense. I said something almost identical to JiF just last week.

.

 

Played well there Pirate. Played well.

 

 

 

Missing the rep button so much. Thought about you today when my shopping cart almost hit a display at Total Wine.

[DPR]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here we go - get a load of this:

 

Ok. Had to wait for mod conformation about if I could even talk about it.

 

Last night, presumably at the beginning of night phase, I was to make a choice. I can't go into specifics because of mod communication and whatnot, but suffice to say I'm worried about the result of the choice.

 

Due to the obscure nature of the question, it feels like depending on what I picked, one of us will die. If there's a doc, and they have nothing better to do, I would like protection. I don't trust the outcome of this role, whatever it's doing.

 

If it's result is a kill, I would like to thwart it. It does not feel like a town ability.

 

that's never scum

 

it's also not role-fishing

 

unless the scum team has a watcher or something

 

rolefishing is enticing people to publicly out their roles, which is not the case

 

 

 

And you don't see this as a catalyst to get a Doc to somehow reveal themselves - or to get conversation about roles in general started?

 

You got anything else? 

 

why on earth would the doctor reveal themselves in thread

 

 

 

I have no idea - but then, I can't explain half of what's going on in this game and other than signaling for some weird reason, role fishing was the only other productive point that I could see.

 

You gone do anything else besides giggle and ask droll questions?

 

do you legitimately expect that something equivalent to the doctor revealing themselves in thread would happen? if not, and the player is simply calling for protection out of concern for his life, then don't call it rolefishing

 

yes, i am 

 

 

What do you call it? So far you've normalized it - and that doesn't exactly inspire confidence, you know?

[DPR]

And why isn't Eldrick explaining it beyond "I don't know"?

[Darthe]

 

Well its my bedtime. but [v] hallia [/v] for now. reason given a couple of posts ago AND to get her in the game.

Kinda a meh vote here.

Townie tho?

[Cuth]

normalized what

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

bam boom bam boom

 

thanks everyone

 

we got lucky

We did not. He was an easy pick and all three on the block are good candidates still.

Did you sus him before the wagon built up on him? Because I don't recall that ever.

 

And I was reading Darthe as stubborn town, but Eldrick's observation of his past behaviour as scum and the fact that he moved over to a new wagon despite the fact that he claims to still believe my/Mrsclov's slot to be scum doesn't make any sense.

 

If he thought both leading wagons were scum, and we were supposedly his strongest (practically only) scum reads all day (and we know that he likes to be right) and there was no danger of any other competing wagon....why not keep his vote on us since it shouldn't matter to him which one of us flipped?

I'm trying to follow your train of thought here, with the knowledge that NotBob is scum. If Darthe was scum, he would obviously care.

 

Town=he thought. Scum= he knew

 

This makes sense from town!Darthe pov but not scum!darthe

Looking over the posts from the night phase and this stands out to me - Eldrick seems anti-Darthe most of the time, but this one seems to point to him leaning a different way. Eldrick seems to be flipping a lot to me and it's why I think he's mafia.

 

Also Cuth's reveal at night seemed really odd as well.

Oooh [unvote]

[WolfbrotherKronos]

And why isn't Eldrick explaining it beyond "I don't know"?

 

This!

[WolfbrotherKronos]

 

 

Well its my bedtime. but [v] hallia [/v] for now. reason given a couple of posts ago AND to get her in the game.

Kinda a meh vote here.

Townie tho?

 

 

WiFi or Hallia?

[The Crusher]

 

 

i think we can take a step back from the dpr darthe thing for a couple hours

 

one of them is pretty clearly town, just have to figure out which that is :)

 

unhelpful place to be locked in given there are other scums we can find as well and nobody's being super actively counterproductive

 

What in heavens name does any of this mean? This is illogical and screams " look I'm contributing stuff." Wow. Ignore DPR and Darthe for a couple hours because one is certainly town and one is scum but not sure who is who? Correct me but isn't that basically how all mafia starts? How is it not helpful to not lock in? If one is certainly town making the other scum then lynch both back to back. I take one for one scum to town any day. Cause math is power and stuff. Instead you are voting for somebody else? Are you really not sure about either Darthe or DPR being scum or are you so sure Tinker is scum you can wait on one of those two? I'm baffled by this.

i'm not trying to pretend i'm contributing 

 

i was pointing out that people itt were getting wrapped up in the debate, which i found unhealthy and suggested a short break from

 

i have no idea about their alignments and haven't bothered to read them, but given the certainty about which people are/were talking about them, i think it's quite likely that one is scum, because at a glance without fully reading the posts they seem to not just be total tonereads

 

basically that was suggesting other people step back and clear their heads

 

i'm going to put in effort when i want to, and i will

 

and i'll see what i see and say what i say

 

just not right then

Just your statement makes more sense when referring to town on town violence. That's when most will say step away from it. Like me. I'm guessing town on town violence. I agree to step away from it. My point is if I really thought one might gut be scum I would pay closer attention to it because I'm looking for scum. I'm crazy like that.

[MrsClov]

And why isn't Eldrick explaining it beyond "I don't know"?

 

Reasons for why he announced it would be nice to hear as well. Could be rolefishing as you mentioned or something else. 

[Darthe]

 

liza and clov

 

given your deep-seated conviction about the scumminess of darthe, why are you voting on tiinker

We think he could be scum as well based on his lack of interaction, voting with no explanation, and then not posting after it. I posted a big long reads list sometime last night.

I could be! Im not, bit i could be!