[Advanced] Old West Mischief Mafia - Town Wins!

[Lizabeth]

 

 

@liz  can you clarify what the last game with cory you are talking about is? The last one i remember is the one where you guys were a hydra or something iirc

We weren't a hydra. We were bickering neighbours.

 

It was the last game that Chris hosted here. I can't remember the name, but Sooh was in it too.

 

Final Fantasy 7.

 

Thanks!

 

 

Don't tell him i forgot :P

 

[Eldrick4221]

Lololol

[Songstress]

Official Vote Count:

Darthe Wade (2): Cass, Eldrick
Miss Kizzy Clov (3): Dice, Darthe, DPR 
Eldrick the Kid (1): NotBob
NotBob Cassidy (1): Cuth

Not Voting: Sooh, NotBob, WiFi, Hallia, Tiinker, Spoof, Crusher, Miss Kizzy Clov, Seph, Kronos

With 16 alive it takes 9 to string em up!

Deadline for D1 is Tuesday, 2/14/17 at 9:00 AM MST

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

I'm quite curious about Wildfire not checking in yet.

Oh are you? That seems super important, Lol.

Concerned mainly. She was pretty active early on last game and considering she was the one who asked for me to be summoned I assumed it meant she was eager to play. The fact that she hasn't even checked in yet concerns me both for her as a person and what it could be as an alignment. Until she checks in it doesn't really mean anything though. Can't read what isn't there.

Folks if you have no other reason to read Miss clove as a wolf, this would be enough. She is going out of her way to put suspicion on a player for having not checked in yet in the midst of being sussed on thread and having low activity regarding those who are around.

I disagree. What would you think she should do given her being under suspicion?

Then youre wrong. She shouldnt focus on some lutlier, she needs to be hyper present to make herself appear more open. This isnt that, it's a distraction.

[Darthe]

Darthe would you like a spotlight to help yourself out of the dark tunnel you've found your self in? I've yet to see you do anything but jump up and down saying every single thing Liz and I do or say is woody. You did this to Eldrick last game too.

Dont look like a wolf and I wont call you for it. This isnt my problem, it's yours.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. Doc Cassiday (cass) - slight town, not enough gifs to imitate zander.

 

6. Darthe Wade (Darthe) town

 

8. Hallia Cogburn (Hallia) nully mc jellybean

 

9. Eldrick the Kid (Eldrick4221) will discuss later - mixed emotions.

 

10. Cuthroat Jesse (Cuth) town

 

13. Dice - Lone Stranger (dicetosser1) re read, not as strong of a town as before. but town

 

15. Miss Kizzy Clov (MrsClov and Lizabeth) am voting - obvious. have a few thoughts in my head.

 

16. Crushlove the Bacon Bandit (The Crusher) nully mc null face

why the strong read on darthe

I'm with Seph here, I have Derf as town as well.

Reads list, in no particular order.

 

Cass - Town. She's doing a good job of pushing the game forward. Asking good questions. I liked her response to my town read of her too. Felt genuine, that she's not used to it.

 

Darthe - Light Town. More aggressive than I'm used to seeing. Willing to attribute that to town for now.

 

Cuth - Null. Still have that nagging feeling that there was a reason for a scum read, but haven't reread to find it. Have liked his recent content, though. His push on Lizclov makes a lot of sense. Don't see them as w/w.

 

Lizclov - Scum. For the asking who her teammates would be. Still don't see how it could be a town move before there are scum flips to link to. Any information gathered from this would be misleading if they were town. Even if the linked person was indeed scum, them flipping town would make the link void, and could even form doubt about the other being scum.

 

 

I don't remember enough about anyone else to have a read. Noone else has done anything to make me suspect them, but they haven't done anything super towny either.

 

Except NotBob. Not checking in is obviously scummy :P

 

seph hasn't posted enough for you to be able to give a read on him?

Did I say that?

 

I don't remember enough. Memory is fickle. I tend to end up focusing on a few people at first.

 

Eldrick is pinging like crazy to me up to this point. He feels off.

You're going to have to explain to me how he's more "off" now than in any other game. I haven't seen anything conclusive at this point.

As I see it here before venturing back into my catch-up

 

Usually with Eldrick, I feel like he's very wordy, but I can follow where his train of thought is going. This time, it almost feels to me like he's using his powers for evil? Like...distracting the thread? I dunno how to verbalize it exactly, but it feels off to me.

This feels towny to me.

 

It feels weird to think it, being how wrong she is, but town is frequently wrong. It just feels more like misguided towny than scum setting up a mislynch /shrug

[MrsClov]

 

 

 

 

 

I'm quite curious about Wildfire not checking in yet.

Oh are you? That seems super important, Lol.

Concerned mainly. She was pretty active early on last game and considering she was the one who asked for me to be summoned I assumed it meant she was eager to play. The fact that she hasn't even checked in yet concerns me both for her as a person and what it could be as an alignment. Until she checks in it doesn't really mean anything though. Can't read what isn't there.

Folks if you have no other reason to read Miss clove as a wolf, this would be enough. She is going out of her way to put suspicion on a player for having not checked in yet in the midst of being sussed on thread and having low activity regarding those who are around.

I disagree. What would you think she should do given her being under suspicion?

Then youre wrong. She shouldnt focus on some lutlier, she needs to be hyper present to make herself appear more open. This isnt that, it's a distraction.

 

 

Liz and I combine for 174 posts That's 2nd and 4th I believe. How is that not present? 

[Darthe]

Caught up to page 22.

 

Liz/mc: MrsClov explained the reason for vote and other statements made.

 

However, could it be a too good of an explanation? one that was too well thought up? I mean it did take her a while to finally come out with it. Keeping this in mind as game continues.

 

seph: I like the way that questions people, straightforward. I also like his reads list but not so fond of having darthe so high a town atp.

 

Though, darthe is null for me now.

No, it cant. Because it was a *terrible* explanation.

[Darthe]

Ok. So back to thinking Lizclov is town, after realizing how much attention they are getting. It is screaming LHF.

 

I'm suspicious of Darthe for trying to push the lynch so hard.

Oh youre sus of me? I never saw that coming, lol

[MrsClov]

 

Darthe would you like a spotlight to help yourself out of the dark tunnel you've found your self in? I've yet to see you do anything but jump up and down saying every single thing Liz and I do or say is woody. You did this to Eldrick last game too.

Dont look like a wolf and I wont call you for it. This isnt my problem, it's yours.

 

 

I bet you win a lot of congeniality awards for this charm of yours. /sarcasm

[Darthe]

Also not feeling great about NotBob. He attacked me like this before as town, but this feels...different. Keeping him at null for now, but got my eye on him.

At least youre getting that

[Darthe]

 

 

 

Ok. So back to thinking Lizclov is town, after realizing how much attention they are getting. It is screaming LHF.

 

I'm suspicious of Darthe for trying to push the lynch so hard.

What's LHF?

Low hanging fruit. Easy lynch.

Gracias. I definitely don't hate your thoughts on Darthe. I'm going to be in and out and let Liz do a lot of the talking for a bit. I've got homework to convince myself I'm actually doing.

Shocking folks, shocking

[Eldrick4221]

Maybe one of these games you'll be town :P

[Darthe]

 

 

Darthe would you like a spotlight to help yourself out of the dark tunnel you've found your self in? I've yet to see you do anything but jump up and down saying every single thing Liz and I do or say is woody. You did this to Eldrick last game too.

Dont look like a wolf and I wont call you for it. This isnt my problem, it's yours.

I bet you win a lot of congeniality awards for this charm of yours. /sarcasm

Im not here to win you liking me, im here to win a mafia game.

[Cuth]

vote LizAndClov

dude

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. Doc Cassiday (cass) - slight town, not enough gifs to imitate zander.

 

6. Darthe Wade (Darthe) town

 

8. Hallia Cogburn (Hallia) nully mc jellybean

 

9. Eldrick the Kid (Eldrick4221) will discuss later - mixed emotions.

 

10. Cuthroat Jesse (Cuth) town

 

13. Dice - Lone Stranger (dicetosser1) re read, not as strong of a town as before. but town

 

15. Miss Kizzy Clov (MrsClov and Lizabeth) am voting - obvious. have a few thoughts in my head.

 

16. Crushlove the Bacon Bandit (The Crusher) nully mc null face

why the strong read on darthe

I'm with Seph here, I have Derf as town as well.

Reads list, in no particular order.

 

Cass - Town. She's doing a good job of pushing the game forward. Asking good questions. I liked her response to my town read of her too. Felt genuine, that she's not used to it.

 

Darthe - Light Town. More aggressive than I'm used to seeing. Willing to attribute that to town for now.

 

Cuth - Null. Still have that nagging feeling that there was a reason for a scum read, but haven't reread to find it. Have liked his recent content, though. His push on Lizclov makes a lot of sense. Don't see them as w/w.

 

Lizclov - Scum. For the asking who her teammates would be. Still don't see how it could be a town move before there are scum flips to link to. Any information gathered from this would be misleading if they were town. Even if the linked person was indeed scum, them flipping town would make the link void, and could even form doubt about the other being scum.

 

 

I don't remember enough about anyone else to have a read. Noone else has done anything to make me suspect them, but they haven't done anything super towny either.

 

Except NotBob. Not checking in is obviously scummy :P

 

seph hasn't posted enough for you to be able to give a read on him?

Did I say that?

 

I don't remember enough. Memory is fickle. I tend to end up focusing on a few people at first.

Eldrick is pinging like crazy to me up to this point. He feels off.

You're going to have to explain to me how he's more "off" now than in any other game. I haven't seen anything conclusive at this point.

As I see it here before venturing back into my catch-up

 

Usually with Eldrick, I feel like he's very wordy, but I can follow where his train of thought is going. This time, it almost feels to me like he's using his powers for evil? Like...distracting the thread? I dunno how to verbalize it exactly, but it feels off to me.

This feels towny to me.

 

It feels weird to think it, being how wrong she is, but town is frequently wrong. It just feels more like misguided towny than scum setting up a mislynch /shrug

Good read

[Darthe]

Maybe one of these games you'll be town :P

Im town every game, right up to the moment I die.

[Cuth]

Ok. So back to thinking Lizclov is town, after realizing how much attention they are getting. It is screaming LHF.

 

I'm suspicious of Darthe for trying to push the lynch so hard.

see? told you so

[Cuth]

 

 

 

 

I'm quite curious about Wildfire not checking in yet.

Oh are you? That seems super important, Lol.

Concerned mainly. She was pretty active early on last game and considering she was the one who asked for me to be summoned I assumed it meant she was eager to play. The fact that she hasn't even checked in yet concerns me both for her as a person and what it could be as an alignment. Until she checks in it doesn't really mean anything though. Can't read what isn't there.

Folks if you have no other reason to read Miss clove as a wolf, this would be enough. She is going out of her way to put suspicion on a player for having not checked in yet in the midst of being sussed on thread and having low activity regarding those who are around.

This right here in particular. Horrible reasoning to suss them for. Being suspicious of someone that they expected to be excited for the game is a good reason.

 

But more importantly the post comes off as worried about the person more than it does suspicious of the player, and it feels like you are just trying to find something to get them on.

 

+1

[Cuth]

liza talk about not yourself for the next six hours, please

 

make reads on the people in the game and talk to us

 

thanks 

 

:)

[Eldrick4221]

 

Maybe one of these games you'll be town :P

Im town every game, right up to the moment I die.

Hah.

[Darthe]

Cuth time well prove you wrong here. Don't do that to yourself.

[Lizabeth]

Okay, I"m caught up and here are some thoughts.

 

Darthe: Darthe's only real contribution to the thread at this point has been pointless fluff and picking up on a joke post I made about RVS voting him and then running down the tunnel like there's a pile of gold at the end of it. He could be doing this as town (I once played in a game where he argued someone was scum because of the way they punctuated their sentences...) because he's pretty full of himself and pigheaded as town. I generally find him to be frustrating to play with for that reason. I'm also keeping in mind that Seph claims to be able to read him well, and right now I have Seph in my town column.

 

But I don't put it past him to do it as scum either. I read part of his last game where he was scum and he was pretty bold and in people's faces, pretty much running with the "hahaha, i can do whatever I want!" It's also very easy to make a push by just quoting things and saying "this is so wolfy" without actually explaining what it is about that post that is actually wolfy. And he ignores questions as scum or as town, but I'd like someone else to push him to put his thoughts on record so he can't just hide behind "everyone thought they were wolfy" and people can actually track what his progression of thoughts are.

 

I want to know more about what @Hallia and Seph in particular expect from him when he's scum.

 

(by the way, I'm going to continue to vehemently disagree with the mindset that town should only focus on one day at  a time in a game. Thinking ahead does not mean locking in future actions, what it does mean is exploring things in real time so that you can find actual scum and/or go back the next day and challenge people if their progression sucks. It forces people to actually describe their motivations, rather than "oh well, we'll just sort it out tomorrow". I've never understood the mentality of "oh we can't look ahead from D1, which is only slightly worse than the "d1 is useless" mentality.)

 

You can call me biased, but I agree with MrsClov that Cuth's progression on us has seemed to be townie. And I was reading him as town when he was tunneling on us anyway. Same thing with Seph (who is still reading us as scum) and Eldrick (who MrsClov and I don't totally agree on for the record).

 

MrsClov reads Hallia as townie but I don't know how to read Hallia.

 

I'm currently reading Sooh as townie. I've only played one game with her before where she was scum and I was town (FF7). I scum read her early because of the way that she was shading me (basically just throwing out suggestions about me being scum without backing anything up) and then i thought she was townie in her responses to me in that when I challenged her she stuck to her read but seemed open and honest in the way that she responded to me. Eventually came around to realizing she was scum over N1 and we wound up lynching her on D2.

 

In this game, though, I'm reading her posts as being open and honest BEFORE being challenged. I don't know her scum range, but at the moment I'm reading her as town.

 

My current don't really trust list (aside from Darthe) are notbob, DPR, and Crusher. Notbob seems to be hedging a lot of bets. I've already called out DPR on some posts that don't read as genuine to me, including his statement about Eldrick being "wound up" (he never did answer my question on that one, just commented on Eldrick's answer I believe). And Crusher...I'm going to reread him. But he seems to be taking the easy route at the moment as well.

 

Tinker has done nothing to explore anything at all in the game and then pops in to place an easy vote on us. If he is who I think he is (from skype) then I believe that he's part of the whole "d1 is useless" crowd, which I find annoying but not alignment indicative, so he's someone I'd like to see pushed. There's absolutely no reason for anybody to say at this point that there's no information to work with in the thread.

[Cuth]

Cuth time well prove you wrong here. Don't do that to yourself.

that liza's scum?

 

perhaps, but i don't think so and i will do everything i can to prevent that lynch going down today

 

or are you talking about something else

[Cuth]

liza, please try to avoid insulting other players in the future

 

it will make the game MUCH more enjoyable