[Advanced] Old West Mischief Mafia - Town Wins!

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Claim: vigilante.

 

Discuss.

Didn't see this on the first read through, but are you really doing this the game after doing it in Sooh's Basic game as scum?

He did?

 

Hmmm....

seriously, Liz woofin

Ugh...quotes

 

If I were you'd never know it

 

What's your read on MrsClov?

Def bad responses. Easy game, gg, no rematch

Yes, because I was such an easy read for you the one time I actually played against you as scum.

Defensive, and I find that using past games as justification for dismissong a read in a cirrent game tends to be a slightly wolf thing to do.

[seph]

@liz by your interaction with dice you did get a response out of him. It just made dice look pro town, and you not so much.

[Lizabeth]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My body is ready. Let's get it on.

Cigars are stinky, though...

 

But have you ever tried one?

 

Vote Eldrick - he's wound up tighter than my grip on a bottle of whisky. And that's pretty tight.

 

Yeah. Not wound up at all lol.

 

Hope you survive D1 this time. I really want to play more than a couple days with you and get a feel for you.

 

What if he's scum?

 

Tripling (quadding?) Down on liz wolf

 

Because of that question?

Do you even understand the question?

 

I do. Im talented in reading comprehension, at or above a 3rd grade level.

 

Then explain for the class what the question was about.

[Darthe]

Okay, so let's play a game of pretend.

 

Let's pretend MrsClov and I are scum.

 

Who are our partners?

Idk its d1, surely one wolf is enough atm. This is a distraction post.

[Songstress]

Official Vote Count

Darthe Wade (1): Cass
Dice, The Lone Stranger (1):  Miss Kizzy Clov
Miss Kizzy Clov (4): Dice, Darthe, Seph, Cuth
Hallia Cogburn (1): Kronos
Eldrick the Kid (1): DPR
 
Not Voting: Sooh, NotBob, WiFi, Hallia, Tiinker, Spoof, Crusher, Eldrick


With 16 alive it takes 9 to string em up!
Mod note: No deadline has been set for D1 at this time.  Once everyone has checked in a deadline and countdown timer will be added to the vote counts.

[Darthe]

 

Okay, so let's play a game of pretend.

 

Let's pretend MrsClov and I are scum.

 

Who are our partners?

that's unimportant and a silly line of thought to even carry on at this point of the game

 

it's d1 and there are literally 0 flips

 

our goal is to find one scum

 

unless you are saying that you have interacted in a very towny way with every player in the game

Lol mindmeld

[Lizabeth]

 

 

 

 

 

its still a contradiction mrsclov sher needed to consult on Darthe but not on me.

 

if the darthe one is just being a good hydra what is the one on me?? One second she needs to consult then she doesnt on someone else shortly thereafter?

No, you're making it a contradiction, most likely because it involves you. It was an "Oh yeah, I'm in a hydra" moment. I didn't know about the vote on you until after the vote was placed and we talked it out. So that's when she mentioned conferring with me on Darthe. We fill the same spot, and that's not something either of us are used to doing. It is just a result of us trying to figure out how to hydra for the first time, but you're making it into something else.

 

Bold:

So order of hydra events:

 

- Vote Dice

- Discuss Dice vote

- Discuss conferring on Darthe ?

 

It looks like thats skipping a step or two. Its more,

 

"I wanna vote darthe but will ask my hydra of its ok"

"Ok ima vote dice cause I got pressure for saying the above"

"No I didnt need to confer to vote dice"

"Of course I confer with my hydra before making a vote"

 

Thats how it looks to me at least

 

How much of that conversation with Cass do you think was serious?

 

Ooh it wasn't serious. I see.

 

You didn't answer the question.

[MrsClov]

 

Nah, it's easy enough for most to see that played last game

 

 

I don't think one game makes it easy to determine someone's level of aggressiveness. It was more of a frustration thing than an aggression thing.

[Lizabeth]

 

Okay, so let's play a game of pretend.

 

Let's pretend MrsClov and I are scum.

 

Who are our partners?

Idk its d1, surely one wolf is enough atm. This is a distraction post.

 

Oh really? You're not interested in information that might help solve the game on D2 and so on?

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My body is ready. Let's get it on.

Cigars are stinky, though...

But have you ever tried one?

 

Vote Eldrick - he's wound up tighter than my grip on a bottle of whisky. And that's pretty tight.

Yeah. Not wound up at all lol.

 

Hope you survive D1 this time. I really want to play more than a couple days with you and get a feel for you.

What if he's scum?

Tripling (quadding?) Down on liz wolf

Because of that question?

Do you even understand the question?

I do. Im talented in reading comprehension, at or above a 3rd grade level.

Then explain for the class what the question was about.

You said "what if hes scum"...

 

It seems pretty self explanatory, it's useless conjecture.

 

You really want to make this your bleeding grounds?

[Darthe]

 

 

Okay, so let's play a game of pretend.

 

Let's pretend MrsClov and I are scum.

 

Who are our partners?

Idk its d1, surely one wolf is enough atm. This is a distraction post.

Oh really? You're not interested in information that might help solve the game on D2 and so on?

Attempt to turn this denied. Go die now.

[seph]

@mrsclov what are your thoughts about me/cuth/darthe at the moment?

[Lizabeth]

@liz by your interaction with dice you did get a response out of him. It just made dice look pro town, and you not so much.

You haven't asked me yet what my conclusion is about the reaction that I got from Dice.

[Lizabeth]

 

 

 

Okay, so let's play a game of pretend.

 

Let's pretend MrsClov and I are scum.

 

Who are our partners?

Idk its d1, surely one wolf is enough atm. This is a distraction post.

 

Oh really? You're not interested in information that might help solve the game on D2 and so on?

 

Attempt to turn this denied. Go die now.

 

Darthe - you're not afraid of some simple questions are you? Why do you keep avoiding them?

 

Answering my questions can only make you look townier if you're town.

[seph]

 

 

 

 

 

i question your stance that being proactive and encouraging discussion is "a really good look"; it's mildly pro-town, but not in any super significant way

Which is enough for an early d1 read.

 

I disagree, most of those questions didn't really serve a purpose to the thread besides appearing to be helpful. there was 1 out of 4? that possibly helped the thread move along. I appreciate her helping cuth get into the game, and try to make him feel more welcomed. But I though they were more questions to appear helpful imo. The dice thing has already been talked about but liz was seriously calling dice omgus over something so minimal appeared really wolfy to me.

 

Sorry, explain to me how me calling Dice out over voting me after I voted him was something minimal? Are you thinking I should have ignored his response? How would you have responded to it instead?

 

Omgus is something I consider when you are interacting with someone/ or in a heated debate and one person votes and then the other votes back.

Dice came into thread stating he not only planned to vote you, but actually had a reason for the vote.

 

Later on you ask cuth to comment on deice being omgus, now when you re-asked the question it seems you took out the omgus after having people comment on it.

I would have acutally responded to the reason he voted me, Not call him omgus when your vote was not even a serious one to begin with.

[unvote] [v] miss kizzy clov[/v]

 

No, I took out the question because he already answered it.

 

I will go back and reread what Dice actually said, because all I saw was him reacting to my suggestions that I would vote for him and then me voting for him.

 

And you made my point about his reaction - my vote wasn't serious and he took it seriously. So how is that not an OMGUS? I'm not saying it makes him scum, but my perception was that he shows up in the thread 3 minutes after I voted him and quotes the two posts from me that have to do with him and nothing else that I said.

 

 

 

dice

its still a contradiction  mrsclov   sher needed to consult on Darthe but not on me.

 

if the darthe one is just being a good hydra what is the one on me?? One second she needs to consult then she doesnt on someone else shortly thereafter?

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its still a contradiction  mrsclov   sher needed to consult on Darthe but not on me.

 

if the darthe one is just being a good hydra what is the one on me?? One second she needs to consult then she doesnt on someone else shortly thereafter?

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its still a contradiction  mrsclov   sher needed to consult on Darthe but not on me.

 

if the darthe one is just being a good hydra what is the one on me?? One second she needs to consult then she doesnt on someone else shortly thereafter?

[MrsClov]

@mrsclov what are your thoughts about me/cuth/darthe at the moment?

 

I'm kind of null on you at the moment. Things are happening really fast and I haven't time to really dissect anything in my normal nerd fashion of word docs and spreadsheets.

Cuth, I feel like he's looking a bit better. He's getting around to answering questions. I'm really big on why answers, and the fact that he's answering them makes me feel okay about his posts. 

Darthe, I think he's stringing us up for lynch bait because he thinks he can. I don't really think it's alignment indicative for him, because of the games I've played with him I feel like he just does things to amuse himself. 

[seph]

I made a mess :(
I was trying to say dice vote on you applied to your rvs comment on darthe, it had nothing to do with your vote on him.

[seph]

 

@liz by your interaction with dice you did get a response out of him. It just made dice look pro town, and you not so much.

You haven't asked me yet what my conclusion is about the reaction that I got from Dice.

 

I did not know what you were fishing for, or that you ever were until this post. I am not a mind reader ><

[Cuth]

 

[vote]lizabeth[/vote]

 

 

 

[vote]lizabeth[/vote]

lizabethmrsclov

 

 

The vote tags you are looking for is just the letter v  

 

But your intent is clear enough.

 

thanks :)

[Lizabeth]

You said "what if hes scum"...

 

It seems pretty self explanatory, it's useless conjecture.

 

You really want to make this your bleeding grounds?

Obviously you need more than a Grade 3 reading comprehension to understand the question then...

 

If someone says "I don't want this person to die" without seeming to take their alignment into consideration, I want to know if that person is taking that alignment into consideration. And if they weren't, I want to see if they take that into consideration in their future interactions with that player once they've been reminded that alignment is an issue.

[MrsClov]

 

@mrsclov what are your thoughts about me/cuth/darthe at the moment?

 

I'm kind of null on you at the moment. Things are happening really fast and I haven't time to really dissect anything in my normal nerd fashion of word docs and spreadsheets.

Cuth, I feel like he's looking a bit better. He's getting around to answering questions. I'm really big on why answers, and the fact that he's answering them makes me feel okay about his posts. 

Darthe, I think he's stringing us up for lynch bait because he thinks he can. I don't really think it's alignment indicative for him, because of the games I've played with him I feel like he just does things to amuse himself. 

 

 

Ugh. That's gibberishy. Sorry I'm fighting an ear in fection and on my A-game.

 

What I was trying to say about Cuth was that he's giving his whys and not just this is town or this is scum. I like being able to understand people's train of thought, regardless of if I agree with it or not. 

[seph]

 

 

@mrsclov what are your thoughts about me/cuth/darthe at the moment?

 

I'm kind of null on you at the moment. Things are happening really fast and I haven't time to really dissect anything in my normal nerd fashion of word docs and spreadsheets.

Cuth, I feel like he's looking a bit better. He's getting around to answering questions. I'm really big on why answers, and the fact that he's answering them makes me feel okay about his posts. 

Darthe, I think he's stringing us up for lynch bait because he thinks he can. I don't really think it's alignment indicative for him, because of the games I've played with him I feel like he just does things to amuse himself. 

 

 

Ugh. That's gibberishy. Sorry I'm fighting an ear in fection and on my A-game.

 

What I was trying to say about Cuth was that he's giving his whys and not just this is town or this is scum. I like being able to understand people's train of thought, regardless of if I agree with it or not. 

 

I should probably apologize in advance then lol. With recent discussions I hope we can get more people involved at least. If you all are town, I really need you to find some wolves because at the moment, your the best option imo.

[Lizabeth]

 

 

 

 

 

 

i question your stance that being proactive and encouraging discussion is "a really good look"; it's mildly pro-town, but not in any super significant way

Which is enough for an early d1 read.

 

I disagree, most of those questions didn't really serve a purpose to the thread besides appearing to be helpful. there was 1 out of 4? that possibly helped the thread move along. I appreciate her helping cuth get into the game, and try to make him feel more welcomed. But I though they were more questions to appear helpful imo. The dice thing has already been talked about but liz was seriously calling dice omgus over something so minimal appeared really wolfy to me.

 

Sorry, explain to me how me calling Dice out over voting me after I voted him was something minimal? Are you thinking I should have ignored his response? How would you have responded to it instead?

 

Omgus is something I consider when you are interacting with someone/ or in a heated debate and one person votes and then the other votes back.

Dice came into thread stating he not only planned to vote you, but actually had a reason for the vote.

 

Later on you ask cuth to comment on deice being omgus, now when you re-asked the question it seems you took out the omgus after having people comment on it.

I would have acutally responded to the reason he voted me, Not call him omgus when your vote was not even a serious one to begin with.

[unvote] [v] miss kizzy clov[/v]

 

No, I took out the question because he already answered it.

 

I will go back and reread what Dice actually said, because all I saw was him reacting to my suggestions that I would vote for him and then me voting for him.

 

And you made my point about his reaction - my vote wasn't serious and he took it seriously. So how is that not an OMGUS? I'm not saying it makes him scum, but my perception was that he shows up in the thread 3 minutes after I voted him and quotes the two posts from me that have to do with him and nothing else that I said.

 

 

 

dice

 

its still a contradiction  mrsclov   sher needed to consult on Darthe but not on me.

 

if the darthe one is just being a good hydra what is the one on me?? One second she needs to consult then she doesnt on someone else shortly thereafter?

 

 

 

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its still a contradiction  mrsclov   sher needed to consult on Darthe but not on me.

 

if the darthe one is just being a good hydra what is the one on me?? One second she needs to consult then she doesnt on someone else shortly thereafter?

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its still a contradiction  mrsclov   sher needed to consult on Darthe but not on me.

 

if the darthe one is just being a good hydra what is the one on me?? One second she needs to consult then she doesnt on someone else shortly thereafter?

 

Oh, okay. I see what you're referencing now.

 

But that still has to do with the fact that he was reacting to me voting for him. I actually didn't realize what he was complaining about with the vote until after MrsClov explained to him what he was misunderstanding about what I said.

 

But the point still remains that he was reacting to my vote, which is why I called it an OMGUS.

[Cuth]

Liza

 

once again

 

THREE of us responded to you saying pretty much exactly the same thing

 

you ask "well you're scumreading me who are your partners"

 

we say "hello we're not worrying about that right now, and it's wholly irrelevant"

 

you say "well don't you want to help solve the game from that point forward"

 

and again my reply is it's irrelevant

 

we don't know your alignment, you are not flipped scum nor are you peeked

 

that said your response is exactly a diversion

 

it's shoving attention away from you

 

just like you did with dice's vote on you

 

now this could be playstyle differences, but still

[Cuth]

 

 

 

@mrsclov what are your thoughts about me/cuth/darthe at the moment?

 

I'm kind of null on you at the moment. Things are happening really fast and I haven't time to really dissect anything in my normal nerd fashion of word docs and spreadsheets.

Cuth, I feel like he's looking a bit better. He's getting around to answering questions. I'm really big on why answers, and the fact that he's answering them makes me feel okay about his posts. 

Darthe, I think he's stringing us up for lynch bait because he thinks he can. I don't really think it's alignment indicative for him, because of the games I've played with him I feel like he just does things to amuse himself. 

 

 

Ugh. That's gibberishy. Sorry I'm fighting an ear in fection and on my A-game.

 

What I was trying to say about Cuth was that he's giving his whys and not just this is town or this is scum. I like being able to understand people's train of thought, regardless of if I agree with it or not. 

 

I should probably apologize in advance then lol. With recent discussions I hope we can get more people involved at least. If you all are town, I really need you to find some wolves because at the moment, your the best option imo.

 

+1

 

and this post makes me feel good about you being town, seph