[Advanced] Old West Mischief Mafia - Town Wins!

[seph]

We cant assume power misdirection right off though cass, thats so rare.

Obv there were 3 or 4 options that would be a good view last night. Pretty rare chances they pick the same person

[Lizabeth]

 

 

 

Still a stand off ugh.

 

I hate doing this.

 

I happen to know that Eldrick was visited last night because I did it.

 

I'm a town odd night witness and I viewed Eldrick last night. The response came back as guilty.

That is weak. You're lying about your supposed result.

 

You wouldn't say you hate doing it if you had caught scum, which you obviously haven't.

 

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[V]kronos

 

I believe that you targeted me. I know someone did if it wasn't some weird trigger thing.

 

Eldrick, no. You have to vote for Darthe. Don't move your votes around. That's what they want us to do.

 

 

Explain who is they?

 

 

that is true, but el already claimed his power. so could be a redirect etc, but i assume it was a target ability which rules out miller or something that can give a incorrect result? they can't have 2 powers unless like a joat or something correct?

I did no such thing. I was a target of something.

 

I don't have a power. Kronos is lying out his button here.

 

 

Solves that question. 

 

 

 

 

that is true, but el already claimed his power. so could be a redirect etc, but i assume it was a target ability which rules out miller or something that can give a incorrect result? they can't have 2 powers unless like a joat or something correct?

I did no such thing. I was a target of something.

 

I don't have a power. Kronos is lying out his button here.

 

 

Except I'm not - the only way you aren't mafia is if I was redirected to someone else.

 

 

Would that happen if Eldrick was targeted for a delayed kill, or only if he was killed, or only if actively redirected?

 

 

Yeah. Not buying it. Even if you had somehow gotten a red read on me, though I can't fathom how you would, you don't keep it to yourself, after d1 was a scum lynch.

You would be extatic to get 2/2 and open with it. My guess is you're trying to do this to save your teammate.

 

Guess that teammate is darthe.

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[V]darthe [/v]

 

This feels weak/constructed. Ignores the option that you keep red peeks closer to the EoD to get more info/find partners.

 

 

Wotness would be such an odd claim to fake with no pressure, and if we were teammates it'd essentially throw away two of us as soon as the claim was confirmed fake.

 

So no to that whole dumb line of manipulation.

 

Unless you then argue that it was redirected. 

 

Ughhhhh

 

Cass, "they" is whoever is on the scum team with Darthe and NB.

 

I don't know exactly who "they" are. I dont' think that it's kronos.

 

I do think that it includes some combination of DPR/Dice/Crusher/Tink. The focus of that group has just been way too narrow and way too avoidant of looking at the evidence against Darthe in favour of convoluted theories about me/MrsClov, Eldrick, Seph, and Cuth.

 

I realize that Eldrick probably has to be the lynch today. But I hope you guys understand that Darthe has to be the lynch tomorrow. Especially if Eldrick flips town.

[Lizabeth]

 

 

You want to find out if I'm town - lynch me and find out. I have no desire to die today - but if it gives town helpful information then I'm good with it.

 

1. Eldrick is guilty - either mafia or 3rd party

 

2. Eldrick is miller

 

3. I was redirected to someone else - potential knowledge of a non-town power role

That makes no sense for us to lynch you to find out if you're town. Don't worry. I believe that you are what you say you are.

 

I would be shocked if kaylee and tress included a miller in this game. That's a no-no even at PerC and our mods include some crazy roles :P

 

I am considering option number 3 though.

 

What do you think of the fact that Eldrick helped lynch NB yesterday?

Miller is a common role here but eldrick didnt claim it when he had the chance.

 

Really?

 

Ugh.

 

(about the miller role)

[Lizabeth]

Cass, what are your thoughts?

[Darthe]

 

We cant assume power misdirection right off though cass, thats so rare.

Obv there were 3 or 4 options that would be a good view last night. Pretty rare chances they pick the same person

Uh huh.

[WolfbrotherKronos]

To answer Liz's question:

 

 

 

 

Kronos, what is your read on BFG, Cass, and Seph?

 

I'm sorry if you've said it before, but I'm not caught up.

 

 

BFG I have a null one - spoof didn't play so nothing to read off of.  I think BFG is doing a good job, but would like to see thoughts when she is caught up.

 

Town Read on Cass - I see genuine scum hunting there.

 

Seph is leaning town, but close to null - scum hunting seems hesitant - it could be confusion on his part

 

Why is Seph a close to null read for you when he basically was co-responsible for ensuring that NotBob got lynched?

 

 

It could go either way - he could have been scum jumping on a teammates train or he could have been town.  This isn't a black and white game.

 

 

 

 

When it comes to trains I'm terrible at analysis until we get into later days and more information.  I WIFOM myself into a circle.

[Lizabeth]

So wait, misdirects are rare at DM but miller roles aren't?

 

This is like backwards world for me :P

[Darthe]

Hey liz whatcha gonna do if he flips wolf? You just said he cant be a wolf with me.

[seph]

Liz eld would know if he was miller. It's not the case.

Still the chance eld is just 3p. Kronos had me sold when he posted red in red they were mafia. So hopes to that lol

[Darthe]

To answer Liz's question:

 

 

 

 

Kronos, what is your read on BFG, Cass, and Seph?

 

I'm sorry if you've said it before, but I'm not caught up.

 

BFG I have a null one - spoof didn't play so nothing to read off of. I think BFG is doing a good job, but would like to see thoughts when she is caught up.

 

Town Read on Cass - I see genuine scum hunting there.

 

Seph is leaning town, but close to null - scum hunting seems hesitant - it could be confusion on his part

Why is Seph a close to null read for you when he basically was co-responsible for ensuring that NotBob got lynched?

It could go either way - he could have been scum jumping on a teammates train or he could have been town. This isn't a black and white game.

 

 

When it comes to trains I'm terrible at analysis until we get into later days and more information. I WIFOM myself into a circle.

Preachin to the choir man, but eldrick was obvious based on that nb self vote. Dides in the perfect spot and was wolfy already and the goon died, which meant competing wolf trains.

[Lizabeth]

 

We cant assume power misdirection right off though cass, thats so rare.

Obv there were 3 or 4 options that would be a good view last night. Pretty rare chances they pick the same person

 

Only thing is that NB and multiple other people were basically nudging Eldrick all day on D1.

 

If they do have a misdirect, it would make sense for them to target Eldrick because there was enough suspicion on him to make him a likely peek.

 

Not saying that's what happened, but I'm saying that's possible.

 

Is Darthe accurate about redirect roles being uncommon here?

[Lizabeth]

Hey liz whatcha gonna do if he flips wolf? You just said he cant be a wolf with me.

I'm pretty sure he'll flip 3p if he doesn't flip town.

 

What are you betting on him flipping?

[seph]

@ Darth chance the original train was town? Aka lizzyclov

[WolfbrotherKronos]

I have to go to the doctor now to see what is up with my ear.  I'll try to answer questions while I am waiting.  I'm hopefully back before DL

[Lizabeth]

 

To answer Liz's question:

 

 

 

Kronos, what is your read on BFG, Cass, and Seph?

 

I'm sorry if you've said it before, but I'm not caught up.

 

BFG I have a null one - spoof didn't play so nothing to read off of. I think BFG is doing a good job, but would like to see thoughts when she is caught up.

 

Town Read on Cass - I see genuine scum hunting there.

 

Seph is leaning town, but close to null - scum hunting seems hesitant - it could be confusion on his part

Why is Seph a close to null read for you when he basically was co-responsible for ensuring that NotBob got lynched?

It could go either way - he could have been scum jumping on a teammates train or he could have been town. This isn't a black and white game.

 

 

When it comes to trains I'm terrible at analysis until we get into later days and more information. I WIFOM myself into a circle.

Preachin to the choir man, but eldrick was obvious based on that nb self vote. Dides in the perfect spot and was wolfy already and the goon died, which meant competing wolf trains.

 

When did NB self vote? What are you talking about?

[Lizabeth]

Cass, where did you go?

[Eldrick4221]

Know what. Don't care. I'm not getting out of this.

 

Just so you know, 100% truthful about my question thing. Kronos is probably lying about his full ability. Is likely 3p.

 

Have fun finding my teammate.

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[V]eldrick [/v]

[seph]

He has more games and I have been gone almost 6+months.

I have personally seen both a few times. Rolled miller the game before the last 1 I played here

[Darthe]

 

Hey liz whatcha gonna do if he flips wolf? You just said he cant be a wolf with me.

I'm pretty sure he'll flip 3p if he doesn't flip town.

 

What are you betting on him flipping?

Woof

[Lizabeth]

Know what. Don't care. I'm not getting out of this.

 

Just so you know, 100% truthful about my question thing. Kronos is probably lying about his full ability. Is likely 3p.

 

Have fun finding my teammate.

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[V]eldrick [/v]

Okay, what?

 

 

WTF this game? XD

 

ARe you confessing right now?

[seph]

Know what. Don't care. I'm not getting out of this.

Just so you know, 100% truthful about my question thing. Kronos is probably lying about his full ability. Is likely 3p.

Have fun finding my teammate.

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[V]eldrick [/v]

This mafia submitting or town trolling us lol

[Darthe]

@ Darth chance the original train was town? Aka lizzyclov

High. Liz is bad and I got tilted by that, but she aint a wolf here.

[Lizabeth]

okay, fine, [v]eldrick[/v]

 

I need a drink. But I dont' even drink XD

[Darthe]

Know what. Don't care. I'm not getting out of this.

 

Just so you know, 100% truthful about my question thing. Kronos is probably lying about his full ability. Is likely 3p.

 

Have fun finding my teammate.

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[V]eldrick [/v]

Im so using this next time someone has an AtE clear.

[Lizabeth]

 

@ Darth chance the original train was town? Aka lizzyclov

High. Liz is bad and I got tilted by that, but she aint a wolf here.

 

Darthe, you know i'm not going to stop pressing on you about that discrepancy, right?

 

But we'll deal with it after the flip.