I viewed you because I was most suspicious of you. As I said, I find it really hard to believe the wolves were voting for themselves all game. Though Darthe was saying that people were being too rigid in their thinking about what a wolf would do, so maybe his strat relies on completely abusing that. Still makes no sense to me so far though. I didn't like how you had voted lock step with Darthe. I didn't like how it was my sus of your interactions with Darthe that had led to Darthe being outed in part. I also felt resolving whether you were town or not would clarify more than just your alignment. You have had such an effect itt that I would have felt better knowing your alignment. I didn't like the way you (and DPR) were pushing to tell the mafia the only parts of the game they didn't know (the PRs). I didn't like how certain you have been on things I didn't agree with and when things are proven wrong you pivot to a new theory with the same certainty. Though you were right on SD, but then again, so was Darthe so to speak. I gave the information as it didn't help me and there is only one mafia left, it may have been useful. Also if I was given the ability for balance I may as well try and help town with it. Also, I'm now effectively vanilla again, and even if the mafia think I'm the new cop that just gives them more problems without risking any advantage of Town.

I think Key had changed the order of the players so the top voted player was on top each time. But still kind of panicky not to see that. Or you still had sleep in your eyes, lol. On that note I'm getting coffee. It would be really great if we could find someone that could clear more than one person with their flip.

If Tigs is lyjng she either holstered or shot at Turin or me. Not sure holstering makes sense as if SD isn't blocked, he could have done the NK. If he is there is only one other block (and no one at this point knew DPR could use two abilities) so at best it would clear one player (if we believed DPR) but kill a townie. So holstering seems suboptimal and choosing Turin or me over DPR or Ed seems highly cautious as the only way on the table to protect someone was to jail them (if they believed DPR) so jailing DPR wouldn't work and jailing Ed would be counter productive. But the only way to know would be to eliminate Tigs.

The nastiness is the redundancy. I get no result if Turin is lying or DPR is lying. For those doubting my claim let me point out that I claimed before anyone else claimed a reason that I would have been. I admit if I tried a different NA I could have known it wasn't working but I would still not have known why. 2 NAs at night. Not one. Not as many you want so DPR would have double voting. Hmm. Dice's question to Key about if she had seen his vote, even though it was already included in the final vote count. Is that the reaction of someone having a gut shot in the dark or a nervous person worried their team plan hadn't worked? We need to narrow it down. We cannot just eliminate everyone and find out. Like if Ed is lying and used the NK to kill SD, we would only find that out by eliminating him. But that would mean we don't have an explanation for how Teph died. So unless anyone claims or has a reason for it that kind of puts Ed out of the picture (lol if Key's scene was just flavour and Ed actually had an extra NK).

From mafiascum, commuter is the ultimate hiding thing. As they are not there they cannot be role locked or juggernauted or anything. All I can say for certainty is I was blocked or Turin was protected (from investigation). The rest, I don't know. But the mafia were obviously disrupted. Holstering seems unlikely. This feels like it should be really straight forward. Going to bed.

This is all @keyholder21's fault. I was thinking the mafia would be trying to outdo Ithi but no, that isn't the issue at all, lol.

If you are a commuter, then that means I wasn't necessarily jailed. I said unless someone was protecting you (from investigation) but if you can self protect, that would work too. If Dice is vanilla town, no need to block him... So are we at only DPR's word for it that he did these things? But how would he know everyone's roles? This is crazy. So that would only work if DPR tried to kill Turin. Does that make sense? Bah, I hate this game, lol

People should claim. Ed is saying he shot Sinister. Sinister died. Any counter claim? I am saying I investigated you. No result. Consistent with DPR saying he jailed me. No mafia NK. DPR is saying he blocked Dice and jailed me. That means, unless I am mistaken, that one of us ordered the NK or the NK was aimed at me. But given the choice of Ed and DPR, why go for me? Unless, it was you Turin and I was the only one not biting on Sinister and Dice. Seems a stretch though. After the game, the wolves will need to sit me down and explain what happened to me like I was 5. I don't get it. Barring anything else happening at least. Anyone else have any thing else to claim or point out flaws in my reasoning?

What are you doing Turin?

Has town won? Really? I don't understand that at all. Well done DPR. And it looks like Turin was right. I'm left scratching my head. At least I was right about Darthe, I can take solace in that. PS I recommend you start with Dice on the elimination, lol.

Protected from investigation, I meant.

I investigated you. It was blocked, either at my end or your end, is what I mean.

I don't think my claim matters. If it is really confined to Dice and me, we have room to eliminate us both. Looks like I was dead wrong about the wolves beyond Darthe. Thankfully that didn't matter. Unless anyone has anything else to add we may as well get it over and done with. Any other thoughts?

Yeah I was just trying to cover all possibilities, but someone blocked me like you claim or protected Turin tbat no one is claiming. Seems straight forward that Dice or me.was.the one sending in the NK. The only worry I'm. Left with us what is Dice's role to make up for a JOAT that can use multiple actions at once. I get the Vig can be as much a curse as a blessing, but that seems pretty hardcore.

I don't remember that. Maybe this is different as it wasnt a mod action. Or you are fibbing, lol. But sure eliminate us both, but I'm just worried about the chance someone was targeting me and not Dice trying to kill. Someone. Though probably Ed or DPR would have been the target so maybe that fear is not so realistic.

DPR you really trusted Turin over me? You think you know someone and they just turn around and..

Could DPR have holstered his NK to make it look like... No someone blocked me or protected Turin.

It was 1*.i used it, got no result, how could I use it again?

When Key got a 1* Vig because you were modkilled did Ithi announce it? Still feeling bad about you, Turin. Though I'm not sure I can get my head around Turin and SD. At first thought that seems unlikely.

No it is gone, used up.

And I thought not only is Turin sus af bit hé was a really important slot to know the alignment of. Dice and SD would only tell about them, but looking at Turin's mad theories as genuine or rationalisations would go a long way to creating certainty.

What do you mean? I randed VT. D2 I get the message I'm now 1* informant. I guessed it was a changing role or possibly more likely our Modess was balancing Gabe's slightly untown play. This is why I was asking everyone if it would be normal for there to be a cop and a 1* informant (when DPR claimed) especially as there was now another one.

What are you guys doing? Lets think about this seriously. The mafia could be anyone. Except maybe DPR, if we go with him doing these actions. Yes I was blocked as my claim shows, before DPR said anything. But I was also protected. Do it could have been Dice with the NK, or the NK could vhave been directed at me. Unless anyone else wants to claim something?

Ok. Hard claim. I was 1x informant. I investigated Turin, got no result. That is my info.

So one left. Who did what? Well, really well done, everyone.