On 12/24/2021 at 3:38 PM, JenniferL said:

Yes, the ball gag completely avoids that. 

I'm looking forward to the girls hiding Moggy in Salidar with a ballgag in her mouth

I hope you all like the memes. They are from a aprt of the internet you may not normally frequent. We are all here for our love of the books so i hope you enjoy

ps. loving your memes ,frens...Merry Christmas

1 minute ago, VooDooNut said:

I wonder if that little girl will actually survive the giant wave (by channeling) and then this will introduce us to how damane are "acquired" with the opening of season 2. Then, ~7 seasons later, we see the same girl, a few years older, fully obedient under the control of the Seanchan. It just seems like there must be some justification for a wave being summoned to kill one little girl.

 

That would be decent, i would actually like this....but i have a feeling the whole tsunami was just 'le Seanchan bad' and nothing more. Please go and work at Amazon and save us

19 minutes ago, DaddyFinn said:

Anyone else feel like the damane are so much more unnerving with the mouthgags? I like it.

Not so sure. I like the leash look. The way the were treated like dogs to be patted on the heads and given treats , it added to the dehumanisation of the damane

Just now, Yojimbo said:

Supergirl Nynaeve will heal stilling within the first 5 minutes of the second season.

Not at all. They want a season of Moiraine finding herself, he says it himself (rafe that is) he felt that there was nothing for moiraine and Lan to do in book two but they are the biggest actors in the show so they set up the stilling for moiraine and lan to have a stroy arc next season...then Nyn or Egwene will heal her.

2 minutes ago, JenniferL said:

I think that’s a really good point. You don’t cast someone of her stature and then sideline her for the season. That might be why “Moiraine is the main character” became a thing. 

I fear more unnecessary filler. I like Pike but i feel she may take away from the overral story with the showrunners need to put her in each episode.

https://www.cbr.com/wheel-of-time-rafe-judkins-interview/

This article is actually illuminating. How can we make season 2 about moiraine and lan as rosamund pike is so big an actress we cant sideline her.

Just now, JenniferL said:

This was posted in the Articles and Interviews thread, but I think it belongs here too. Rafe clarifies the intention behind some of what we saw and that Moiraine really is stilled and not just shielded. 
 

https://www.cbr.com/wheel-of-time-rafe-judkins-interview/

mfw

17 minutes ago, Cellardur said:

I have commented before, but those two 'filler' episodes were excellent and definitely gave me a greater connection to Lan than anything in the first three books, apart from when he went out of his way to teach Lan some courtly/Warder manners.

 

This is just my view, but when it comes to adaptations I am always happy with things done well that fit the world, the characters and the themes of the book even of they are created.

 

I even enjoyed the one month time skip, because it allows for many of the adventures in the book to have actually taken place. 

I would agree if the season was longer but Rand, Matrim, Perrin and loial's charcter arcs suffered as a result of this.

1 minute ago, Wassup said:

So, Padan Fain  has the dagger. He has clearly stabbed someone with it. Did they nerf the dagger?

The only enemies in the scene where Fain takes the horn are Fain and two of the eyeless. Based on the books, there is very little chance of anyone in that room surviving being cut by the dagger or the fade’s swords. 
 

Any thoughts?

If it is the Shadar Logoth dagger then Uno, Ingtar and Loial are dead. If they aren't dead then they nerfed it, we are yet to know either way.

Still can't believe Perrin hasn't had an Axe all season (except to fridge a literal who)

Still can't believe Matrim hasn't got a quarterstaff and noone has called him Matrim.

3 minutes ago, fra85uk said:

I want 10 seasons of a sit com called (Dark)Friends 

So know one told you mach-in shin was in the waaaaaaaays *clap clap clap clap clap*

>He stared at them. Heat filled him, the burning heat of the touched sun. He could see the Draghkar clearly, soulless eyes in pale men's faces on winged bodies that had nothing of humanity about them. Terrible heat. Crackling heat.
>From the clear sky lightning came, each bolt crisp and sharp, searing his eyes, each bolt striking a winged black shape. Hunting cries became shrieks of death, and charred forms fell to leave the sky clean again.
>The heat. The terrible heat of the Light.
>He fell to his knees; he thought he could hear his tears sizzling on his cheeks. "No!" He clutched at tufts of wiry grass for some hold on reality; the grass burst in flame. "Please, nooooooo!"
>The wind rose with his voice, howled with his voice, roared with his voice down the pass, whipping the flames to a wall of fire that sped away from him and toward the Trolloc host faster than a horse could run. Fire burned into the Trollocs, and the mountains trembled with their screams, screams almost as loud as the wind and his voice.
>"It has to end!"
>He beat at the ground with his fist, and the earth tolled like a gong. He bruised his hands on stony soil, and the earth trembled. Ripples ran through the ground ahead of him in everrising waves, waves of dirt and rock towering over Trollocs and Fades, breaking over them as the mountains shattered under their hooved feet. A boiling mass of flesh and rubble churned across the Trolloc army.
>The screams died. The earth was still. Dust and smoke swirled back down the pass to surround him.

we missed this.

1 minute ago, DigificWriter said:

 

 

Hysterical (and hilarious) hyperbole aside, the point I was trying to make is that the books cannot be used as a baseline for the TV series because they are not the TV series.

I get it you are huffing the copium, it's cool.

3 minutes ago, TheMountain said:

"The books and the show are not the same thing, translation to a visual medium bla bla bla."

 

I'm so tired of hearing this as if it's some sort of goat-kissing bloody revelation that, if only critics would understand, would allow them to see the light.

Agreed , it wasn't 'translation to a visual medium' that made them stop Rand from saving the days at Tarwins gap, or having Elyas in the show to give exposition about being a wolfbrother to Perrin instead of Steppin some useless charcter who commits suicide. Or the butchery of Mat as some sort of dark criminal.

1 minute ago, DigificWriter said:

 

No, it isn't.

 

You don't like what the show is doing; that doesn't mean that Rafe and his team have done anything wrong.

They put two episodes of useless OC filler when they could have concentrated on the characters we have like Mat , Perrin, Rand and loial and used it for worldbuiding. They have done wrong by the bookfans

1 minute ago, DigificWriter said:

 

The show and the books are not the same thing and were never going to be the same thing.

We knew it wouldn't be a faithful adaption but at this point is butchery. The season finale is so bad you are telling us to wait until next season to see how it plays out, it wasn't a satisfying finish to an already mediocre season.

't-trust me guys at the end of the season it will work out'

we are here

'Trust me g-guys next season we will get rands moments and things will work out'

'trust me g-guys egwene saving everyone at dumais well doesnt take away from the story'

'trust me g-guys i know the series is finished after 8 seasons but the amazon extras expain it'

Just now, DigificWriter said:

^ You don't know what the end result of these choices will be, so you don't have any baseline by which you can declare them to be unnecessary.

we've read the books, we have a baseline

11 minutes ago, DaddyFinn said:

LotR is a short and simple story, they had much larger budget, movies are not TV etc.

Are you actually joking?

4 minutes ago, ArrylT said:

 

I may end up being wrong, but I am pretty confident that was the capital of the world -  Paraan Disen - and it never got overrun and the only attack it had was beaten off by LTT a while earlier.  So plenty of time for life to go on as normal as possible (much like it would be for Canada/US while WW2 raged in Europe/Asia)  I think we got to see the Hall of the Servants and several other key buildings from that quick glimpse.   Guess we'll WAFO to see if we get any more - but with Rhuidean coming, I expect we will.  

Even if Paaren Disen wasn't overrun (and i think you are correct) we have no sense of jeopardy in that scene. I have felt the same way about the season as a whole. No climate change affecting the crops, a feeling of change in the air. I wish they would have shown how desperate things were in the AoL for LTT to have made this gambit.

10 minutes ago, JenniferL said:

So something I liked was Fain. He seemed really menacing and dangerous. 

Genuinely great casting choice. Wish he would have got more screen time this season. We really needed Baerlon .