I thought today was Tuesday until I saw this thread. :|

I'm thoroughly enjoying my first full reread and the foreshadowing in books 1-4, at least, is exquisite, imho. 🙂

I stopped buying a lot of stuff from amazon because of shady pricing issues like this. They think people will assume (most probably do) that because it's a bundled item they will save, but often the single item cost is lower than the bundle prices. I'm really not into playing games like that so I take my money elsewhere. IIRC thriftbooks is where I picked up the last several novels (used) in order to finish the series. (Hope the above doesn't run afoul of the advertising forum rules, if so mods please delete!)

I don't see how Mat's and/or Thom's characters are supposed to work without the snappy dialogue. 🤷‍♂️

I literally have not watched, or even seen 2nd hand, a second of GoT. So I cannot be said to be making that comparison. And using that as a comparison is meaningless to me personally (obviously a freakish outlier in that regard). You're correct in saying it feels like a "stage play."

Despite your examples, I'm not the only one of that opinion. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. 🙂

I didn't study the trailer, so I'd have to say I'm going from more of a first gut impression sorta dealio. Intuition usually serves me fairly well. 😉 *watches it a second time in slow mo* Ok, there's so much wrong to unpack. - Rand grabbing Moi by the throat - Perrin with a sword - "You're the water that moves the wheel" line (paraphrasing) Suian line - Eliada/Liandrin? I can't even keep them straight, lol. Her line about those who survive is so cringe. Why can't they just keep the great dialogue that Jordan wrote? - Apparently constantly bloody Nynaeve ??? - All the sets/lighting/extras still seem really low budget and not believable. This was another of my main criticisms from S1. Everything's far too clean and neat and orderly and not lived in, from a set and lighting standpoint. None of the extras make the towns or cities feel real. -Ishy with Seanchan - Perrin with child? - more gratuitous Moi/Suian (?) love scenes (almost as cringe as seeing Rand/Eg S1...ugh) - Rand bound on a cliff's edge (maybe a dream sequence?)... The gestalt doesn't pass the smell test. 🙂

I'll try to be succinct in a very complicated matter. I didn't care for season 1. I thought it was bad. I have admittedly high standards for the visual media that I choose to consume (because I consume very little, I feel like anything other than the best is a waste of my time). It wasn't one or two things, the entirety of season 1 just felt off. I didn't connect with much of it, and the plot and character deviations also detracted from my enjoyment. I guess "the path" I refer to would be "inspired by" vs. "the actual thing." Re: music. I thought season 1's music was one of the strong points. Hope they're allowed to build on that.

There's not much in the Season 2 trailer that grabbed me. The music was not at all my bag. There was much in the Season 2 trailer that, as Guire points out, leads me to believe that this show is purposefully continuing down the path set during Season 1. Very uncertain if I'll bother watching any further, but interested to see how it's received. 🙂

I really like this! Gives Mat, Min, Thom, et al. a gunslinger vibe. 🙂 I've already imagined much of the gaiden, as well as the mechanics of channeling, 'in manga,' so to speak; it only stands to reason that other scenes and characters pay homage to spaghetti westerns and the like. :)

Rand's totally embarrassed about his hair on the cover of MOL, too. So it's canon. :| :| :|

It'll be the story arc for seasons 5-9. :p

My hot take is that Rafe *expands* Faile's rescue slog, just to show WoT fans who's *really* the boss. 😐

A few I didn't see in the video: "BS sure nailed Mat's character right out of the gate." "I wish BS would tie up all these loose ends more perfunctorily." "I can totally relate to those Children of the Light...more characters should be as morally upstanding." "I prefer the tv series."

Well, I think classics like The Illiad or The Odyssey, or all of Shakespeare's works, are written at such a higher artistic level than 99.9% of fantasy, that the distinction must be made.

My first thoughts as well. This seems very plausible; however, I could see Nynaeve being powerful enough to pull the same 'back-to-life' trick with balefire that Rand does. 😄 😄 I guess I see what you're saying. I thought the last few books (or MOL maybe) said explicitly that Callandor was a "trap" that couldn't be used solo by a male channeler and needed linking with others. Or am I wrong there? Thanks for the insights! 🙂

This is my umpteenth time reading The Dragon Reborn, but the first since completing the full series. I seem to be picking up more of the "behind the scenes" intrigue and Forsaken machinations this time around. But I'm also finding plot points that seem inconsistent to the rest of the books. Not sure if I should call them "continuity issues" or "plot holes." 😉 Not sure if these have been discussed before. I'm sure they have been, as the community has always been on top of such things. A few of my observations: - Why isn't Lan with Moiraine when she confronts Be'lal in the Heart of the Stone, despite saying he was going (and her acquiescing) in an earlier chapter? I find it hard to believe he'd just wander off at the most important moment. And if he was held back, why didn't he rush to her aid at the first chance he had after Be'lal crumples her up? - Why is Rand able to split and redirect Baalzamon's balefire in the Heart of the Stone, but Be'lal isn't able to react in time to Moiraine's similar blast of balefire? - When Nynaeve balefires the Myrddraal after being captured by bandits, why aren't the Aiel who were killed/wounded by those Myrddraal brought back to life/healed of their wounds? - Why is Rand able to channel through Callandor in the Heart of the Stone without incident, yet it proves unwieldy in later books (when his lightning against the Seanchan strikes his own men, killing them)? Curious to hear your thoughts.

That's wonderful! Thanks for sharing! :)

You can tell when a tv series has too long a wait between seasons when the fan base starts arguing over aprons. ;)

RIP ANDY ROURKE!!!!!

While Mat in the show was nothing like Mat in my mind, I agree it's still one of the more successful tv adaptations. Now that Barney is gone, though...:shrug:

I prefer my head canon images over the casting images. I've done my best not to let the show "replace" my personal images of the books, and will continue to do so. I don't know why, but Perrin and Egwene *really really really* don't match my personal images, and it bothers me. The rest of the cast much less so. Oh, Thom Merrliin's portray was absolute dreck, too. Nothing personal against the actors and/or actresses, just doesn't jive with the "head canon."

Checked with my buddy who is a part of the Writer's Guild strike, as a prop master. He said there's no way they would be carrying on production such as auxiliary shoots due to the strike, it's not just the writers. It would be the entire production crew (grip, dolly, props, camera guys, etc.) shut down, according to him. So definitely going to impact the release time of S2 if stuff isn't completely wrapped up and ready to go prior to the strike. S3 is obviously impacted as well.