I noticed myself pop up in the top posters section and it reminded me of something I really like about this forum layout for Werewolf. I like that we can't track every player's post count. I can't stand post count reads. They're so cheap. They invite spam. Wolves have to and villagers feel obligated to post more to live up to other players' expectations, and the standard raises with every generation as people constantly try to out-post each other, and suddenly oh you had less than 100 posts in a day phase makes you a suspect no matter what you've had to say, while half the people around you have said nothing at all but hit that sweet untouchable spot of 300 post per day average. Ugh. I'm glad it's not visible here. Being forced to ignore post count is good for the game.

Yeah I mean You bleed new to the game all over and sometimes you say things that strike me as wolfy in the moment, but then I reflect on how I think someone who has those takes as either alignment would play their first wolf rand and I go right back to feeling comfortable with you. We'll see where things go down the road but you're still in my village pile for now.

I'm not fully prepared to call RTE or Lenlo villagers but I don't want to kill them at this moment. Cairos was bugging me for a reason that I know upsets him and others have already called out, but reading people on how they handle their inability to participate due to IRL obligations is a thing we all have to do sometimes. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and allow him space to play, but he's on my radar.

Maybe it's a mash thing lol. Sometimes there's no one person you can point to and go "you're the one doing the wolfy thing" but there's a clear vibe in the air that the thread is inordinately open or resistant towards lynching someone. I felt you were being hedged over too easy.

Still my best guess at a wolf but I don't want to commit to anything yet and am especially eager to see where cass and cairos go. Had to stop reading top of page 36 and probably won't be invested again until after my work shift.

What rubs me more than that isn't exclusive to RTE. I caught a waft of "Zander might be town but we should still lynch him for the thread state/information" that didn't sit well with me at all. I believe all of RTE, Verb, and Heavy did it, but don't quote me on Heavy, I'd have to look back to confirm. I think wolves are more likely to +1 that vibe, secure an easy mislynch while preemptively washing their hands of it. Frankly, the sense that wolves were eager to chop you today is another factor in why I think you're town.

I've noticed a couple posts from Gud now, think the other was about Dice, where her reads are sort of predicated on the notion that wolves avoid lying. Moments where she suspects that someone is deliberately softing that they are not a villager. Did she make these sorts of reads last game?

Going to humor the if shad was a wolf comments on page 35 for my amusement If Zander and Lenlo were v/v, I think I would stay largely out of it and focus on some low hanging fruit with the hopes that Zander gets mislynched today anyway and I can offer up my D1 push for sacrifice tomorrow. If Lenlo was a wolf, yeah I could see myself playing it about the same way. I'd sacrifice an easy Zander mislynch to get my partner out of harm's way and be "more correct" about the villager than the wolf while doing it. If Zander was a wolf, uh, I don't even know it's harder for me to imagine that exchange coming from Zander as a wolf than my own reaction coming from myself as a wolf lol

I'm completely drenched in tatter tot and cheese ball grease

Honestly No clue at this point beyond that the feeling there wasn't half as strong. One of us will have to ISO me. XD

A bit uncomfortable with this post. It reads like something I would say as a wolf. Very verbose summary of what happened fronting for an absence of alignment-relevant thoughts beneath. But I get the impression I'll stumble into your thoughts between here and the present so put a hold on that suspicion.

In tracker land it's saying "Hey town PR, you should totally use your ability on [player who would almost certainly never, if wolf, carry the kill.]" It serves a wolf agenda in a lowkey way that wolves actually do often (unlike say, RTE's very blatant fishing which throws caution to the wind). But we're in watcher land. But Verb thought we were in tracker land. But it turned out actually almost no one in the thread knew what they were doing including myself so I'm tempted to just dismiss the thought entirely lol

wrt me being in catch-up mode Get used to it because I am a notoriously slow reader lol This is why I typically play a style of Werewolf that does not require or expect you to read most of the posts.

RTE's summary on p33 clicks with a number of unexpressed leans I've had and I can definitely see his role fishing as twtbaw given how blatant he was about it. Back to neutral for you.

I don't think I have ever seen the word spelled out that way lol "Meta" is usually used in its dictionary sense, this in context being the application of data on the person generating the content.

Wagonomics never make sense to me with a field this small because any given individual has a high chance to deviate from expectations. They certainly hold weight in big games. The patterns are true and actionable on a larger scale.

Better to kill both of them if neither improve. I'm of the opinion cop peeks belong in the middle of the pack. Let's say it's getting close to end of D2 and at this point there are two players you are dead convinced that short of an award winning performance have to be villagers and two more player who you think are likely wolves. Peek belongs in the four in the middle. Generally ideal to peek players who you think will not be killed any time soon by either faction. They're the ones who the late game is contingent on. If your reads are heavily at odds with thread consensus and your other wolf is part of that middle of the pack collectively, then you can have your cake and eat it too.

I don't think inherited information is likely but regardless watcher becomes cop-in-practice when there's only one wolf left so if we can clear out two wolves early there are a lot of avenues to lock the game. Alright I made it through page 27 and I gotta go to bed, think I showed up around 30 so there shouldn't be much more catch-up tomorrow.

I forgot about this lol game just got easier

Most of the time it will yield x was visited by y no further information. Whether the shot came from wolves or the town vig is usually very obvious especially with a little research.

In that world wolves would have to shoot themselves, otherwise best return you're going to get is an outed vig, ... I'll add an unless I'm being dumb since I was being dumb last time. But I'll admit that your seeming lack of precise awareness of what town PRs are out there gives me a slight positive feeling.

With those two, it would certainly be in the play book. They don't get a full game pass for it if the other flips wolf. As I've said I do think Zander is town, but that level of back and forth with a hypothetical wolf Lenlo does not clear him the way it can clear some people.

I think my head went to tracker because it was missing the context of if the flip is wolf. Obviously if one of them flips town there is no value in watching the other. So maybe my reaction has some merit but toned down from 11 to a 2 or 3.

Wait No that's a tracker not a watcher. lol I'm bad. Sorry Verb

No. No. You're a wolf Verb I'm sorry. If we lynch one of Zander/Lenlo and the other is a wolf, in what universe would wolves ever have the other carry the kill? This is like, just baiting a PR to use their action poorly regardless of Zander/Lenlo's alignments.