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  1. It is not impossible that Rahvin did not know of the medallion. He did have spies in Rand's camp, and knew of his movements as well as the others he was working with. Rahvin was weaving Fire and Air correct, he set it using Air, and most likely triggered the Fire in an electrical pulse, like I described with my previous post. We also know from Lord Of Chaos, that Halima tried to kill Mat using a direct weave. Rand did not know much of the One Power until his epiphany. Until that happened, the male Forsaken would always be vastly more knowledgeable than Rand, or the Ashaman in this capacity. This vast gap in knowledge is far less in the Aes Sedai for obvious reasons.
  2. Mat's amulet did not protect him, because the lightning drawn against him was basically electrical energy that was taken from the environment, and thrown at him in a bolt of energy. The closest examples of this in real life is a model railway and the electric fence on a farm. The electricity that allows the locomotive to move is done in pulses along the track and the farm fence is exactly the same, but a far stronger pulse. If you put your finger on the model track it will get a shock just before the locomotive touches it, and it will tingle. The pulse from an electric fence, by comparison, will throw you a few meters from it in a shock. Exactly how Elyane will throw rocks at him on the way to Ebou Dar, and as you said, Adeleas and Vandene threw horse manure. What they were all discovering, Rahvin already knew what was happening, and knew ways of how to counter it. His expertise in the One Power allowed him to do that. Mat's amulet will only protect from direct weaves trying to do something at the touch of his body. It will not protect Mat from any elements that weaves generate before triggering the process.
  3. Yes, LTT is the only other named Dragon. Rand is connected to LTT only because he was prophesied to be born where he died. Which is kind of the point of that soul when fulfilling the role as Dragon, though that soul was reborn between those two lives. That the soul was born more than once after LTT is a huge can of worms for the story, and one with an ongoing debate of the implications, and which lives they lived.
  4. The answer, is the Chosen were all bound in the Pit Of Doom. LTT faced the Dark One in the exact same location that Rand did, except it was fire.
  5. The implication, is that RJ decided after New Spring that darkfriends would be mentioned in the exemption, but was never outright spoken until Nyneave's full Oath taking. He may have decided to show the change in the Oath is most likely an implication of the Black Ajah working to undermine the White Tower since their first appearance. Changing that particular Oath in that fashion would allow that kind of corruption.
  6. The third Oath clearly states, word for word: Never to use the One Power as a weapon except against Darkfriends or Shadowspawn, or in the last extreme defence of her life, the life of her Warder, or another sister. As far as I can tell, all Oaths in the show are the same ones. What we saw Moriaine do in Falme in the show is consistent with her knowledge of two Forsaken being in the city.
  7. The Oath in the books named both shadowspawn and darkfriends as exempt from being protected from direct attacks by Aes Sedai. It also states that an Aes Sedai can channel to defend herself and her Warder. and can channel to defend another Aes Sedai and her Warder if attacked by others, like the Whitecloaks. These are the only exceptions. Going by how Moiraine behaved in the show so far, this Oath is unchanged.
  8. No. The Oath deals with Shadow sided elements. It lists the Shadowspawn and darkfriends. At the end of the day, the Forsaken were Aes Sedai that defected to the Dark One, and became his leaders that speak directly for him, and take their orders directly from him, too. They were called Forsaken, because they were trusted Aes Sedai that turned against the world, and are darkfriends that lead on the Dark One's behalf, that all made the conscious choice to turn. Figures that darkfriends 3000 years later idolise as mythological heroes. One was a world famous theologian and philosopher. Ishamael. One was a technological research scientist. Lanfear. One was a world famous clinical psychologist. Graendal. One was a world famous doctor. Semirhage. One was a world famous athlete. Sammael. One was a historian. Balthamel. One was a musical celebrity. Asmodean. One was a teacher. Mesaana. One was a lawyer. Be'lal. One was a banker. Moghedien. One was a biological research scientist. Aginor. One was a politician. Rahvin. One was a world famous diplomat. Demandred. All of them Aes Sedai from the Age Of Legends. All of them turned, because they wanted more than the world could give them. The Shadowspawn are not naturally evolved life forms. They were all built, except for the Fades. They are born of Trollocs. They were made by Aginor after his turn, using human beings and animals in genetic experiments. These are not good people. They are the sort of people even Joker would hate.
  9. The Forsaken are the Shadow's leaders. The shadowspawn follow their commands, and the darkfriends follow them too. Moiraine knows that the Forsaken are in the list by default, since they command the two groups the Oath mentions. They are the example the darkfriends all aspire to be. You saw Ishamael's talk to the little girl, and how he used the interaction with the Trolloc to influence her. The implication is that being a darkfriend has no age limit. A little girl would do just fine as one, and expected to follow their oath of allegiance to the utmost as well.
  10. I took it to mean that Rhuarc knows how to read body language really well. Not one of the Emond's Field Five could fake body language until much later in their lives. He was good enough to catch Lan and Moiraine on their inner thoughts too. It comes from being a chief, with a blood feud with the most deceitful clans in the Shaido. Which was also a clan that lived close by them.
  11. The reason they are both exempt, is because they are both consistently spun out into the world. In fact, Birgitte states that this was the longest she and Gaidal had spent in The World Of Dreams between lives together. As for all the other Heroes? Mat remembers dying with Artur Hawkwing looking down on him, from the memories the Finns gave him. Mat knew it was Artur, because he saw him in Falme after he blew the Horn. In the exact same body form each time.
  12. Anaiya was not killed by Halima for no reason. She was killed, because she figured out from the other crimes, that Halima could channel saidin. The other two were killed for the same and another reason that was not realised.... Anaiya and the other two Aes Sedai Halima killed witnessed her attempt to kill Mat when he first arrived at Salidar, but Anaiya only realised what she saw when Egwene told her of the saidin killings. She realised Halima was Forsaken.
  13. The Forsaken by default are leaders of the Shadow. Moiraine and the Aes Sedai are well aware of that fact. Whether they are back or not is the major thrust of Aes Sedai politics, which Elaida will show, since she represents the majority view of the Aes Sedai that the Forsaken will never get out again. Because the key to that denial, is that they do not have the strength and knowledge to fight them. To show the counterpoint to that, is that of the Aes Sedai on the side of the Light, only Moiraine, Siuan and Alanna know that one Forsaken for sure is out, and only Moiraine is aware two of them are. The bigger issue, is that no Aes Sedai except the Black Ajah know that ALL OF THEM are now free.
  14. Far Madding is a display of a corrupted version of modern feminism because of the history of that city's people going back to the Age Of Legends, where they mistrusted the One Power and men's use of it even then to almost Whitecloak levels. As for Samoan and Tongan culture, it is an example of ancient feminism going back thousands of years. The only culture that has anywhere near the same in the Northern hemisphere is the Minoans.
  15. Going by what we have seen, the show has the same Oaths as the books. Moiraine acting in sinking the ship is doable, because she knows she is fighting the Shadow. She knows both Ishamael and Lanfear are in Falme, so she can go all out to do whatever she needs to do, because their presence negates the sense of danger needed at other times. Since the Oath against force states the exceptions very clearly, then the show has it as well. We just have not seen it yet. We know that show Moiraine knows far more about the Forsaken than book Moiraine did at this point. Book Moiraine would have done the same as in the show.
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