Yeah, because thats exactly what I did last game /s. And "Tunnel"? Bro its been like 2 hours and 5 posts with Heavy right here to chat back and forth with. Whats with this complete misrepresentation of the conversation?

Both have received a lot of attention/interacted with a lot of people today, in non-joking ways, connecting them to a lot of the game. Compare that to like... You or Ed who have interacted primarily through memes and jokes rather than anything substantive. Then there's their own reads/pushes and how they themselves have reacted to being pushed. If they flip wolf we can go back to find people who weren't afraid of sussing/pushing them early to try and identify possible town, as well as the opposite in people defending them an odd amount for D1 to find wolf buddies. Don't act like you don't know how all of this works. Lastly, they are also just the wolfiest people in the game at the moment. Dont mistake me, this isnt just "Information", I also think the way Heavy and Marsh have posted up until now is just not particularly towny. I'm not saying "Lynch for info and nothing else".

Gonna be honest, you only seem to pick up a thesaurus when you're pressured, and at times it comes off like you're trying to overwhelm/confuse people so they focus on the words rather than what you're actually saying with them. As for the world you flip wolf, it really doesnt matter if we dont get information from it, we caught a wolf. That alone is worth the price of entry, anything else is a bonus. So this idea we get no information from you flipping wolf is kind of irrelevant, we would have caught a wolf. I disagree, you've interacted with most of the game, if you dont think we can glean information from that then you either aren't paying attention or are trying to frame yourself as not worth being lynched to avoid it. Which I get, I've done it myself multiple times, to great success I might add. See, this reads to me like you're trying to get me to back off by threatening me/implying I'm a wolf rather than providing a better alternative/hunting wolves yourself. This is like "If you continue to vote me, I will push you as a wolf, do you really want that attention/heat?" Surely you can see why this doesnt make me want to stop voting you. It's day 1, light reads and flip info is all we have to go on. You say I'm "overplaying it", bro I have like 3 posts on the subject. Want me to move? Go hunt/case a wolf and give me a good reason to. Because whether you intend it or not, your methods of defending yourself is sketchy.

I dont really care if I get accused of that tbh, it's D1, we need to go off of something, and you/Marsh are the best sources of information/highest chance of wolf in my eyes. As for reasoning, I already posted about it a bit in my catch up, but you're very defensive, your manner of speech fluctuates a lot, and you lack the same confident arrogance you had as town in our previous game. I'd also accept a Marsh lynch fwiw, I don't feel particularly strongly one way or the other between you two, but I like having some options atm. I knew I forgot someone ~~unimportant~~ Semi important. Probably got you and Ithi mixed up, last names and all.

Alright caught up. Anyone I dont mention I dont remember and probably hasn't done enough. Whats the VC at? Feel good on: Ithi Nyn Meh/Neutral on: DPR Verb Ed Key Leaning bad on: Tig? I dunno, like 3 posts, but they werent a great 3 posts Dice Lynch today plox: Vote Heavy Marsh

I've been using it to call someone stubborn like a horse.

5 pages in, main focus is Heavy atm, this early spat with Ithi/Turin/Others seems really odd, very defensive, very reactive, not making very much sense. Heavy was sort of similar in our last game, might just be a defensive person in general, but this one feels over reactive. The big thing I can't figure out yet is whether or not its over reactive for a bit/joke or if its a genuine reaction to being sussed early and not knowing how to handle the attention as a first time wolf. Back to reading.

Oops, didnt see this had started over the weekend, my bad. Catching up! And I've won 100% of the games I've played this year

Christ look at this player list, it really is a decade ago.

What is this, 2013?

Hmm... I do love cult and Symp games... Fine, /in, I'll vote for setups 3 or 4.

tbh I may have risked it and just called BS.

Yes, its almost as if I did exactly what I was accusing Heavy of half the game, setting up lynches based on a flip that hadn't happened yet lol. Also I purposefully switched/push Cass over RTE because I knew we could get RTE lynched later in the game.

I do love the impossible one, it's possibly my favorite.

Reminds me, Ithi made us this so I'm sharing it here.

Yeah, sorry for that. I treated this like a game with Mynd/Darthe/JN people and not newbies. That plus this dang back pain meant I just went for it, and that wasn't appropriate.

Also for those curious why I engaged with Zander hard on D1, its because I remembered that Zander sees backing down as a sign of weakness often. So I knew that if I pushed back, fought back, and then slowly scaled down attempting to reason with him, I could get him on my side. Basically you challenge him, push back, achieve a mutual respect/WIM, and then you can buddy him for a while. So while the overreaction wasn't intended, the degree to which I fought back was.

I should also apologize a bit. While I was purposefully aggressive in how I worded things at times because I knew not everyone would be able to respond to such aggression, I do think annoyance at certain things caused me to cross a line at times, which isn't OK, so for that I apologize. Specifically I would like to apologize to Gud and Heavy, whom I treated like experienced players with thick calluses when it really wasn't appropriate, even if there was a strategy reason behind it.

True, once dead a persons reads/comments are no longer valid/usable.

tbf, you did waffle on the read at the start of D2 a bit. Also between policy cutting out RTE and the soul reads it really cut down the field. That was part of what made this difficult, like half the game was hard to lynch based on those.

Yaay we won. And now I can finally say these two things. 1. I was purposefully ignoring/not updating my read of RTE all game after he pocketed me as town so that my death inevitably lead to his, so glad that worked. 2. I still stand by the bad joke, I say that as either alignment, and I was never pushing for a Zander lynch there or gaslighting him, it's just a legitimately bad tradition that needs to die and Zander over reacted to that. Wolf or town, I call that stupid, and D1 goes mostly the same. Only dif is I vote RTE instead of Cass, since I was setting up the RTE mislynch back then.

I regret nothing and mean every word I've said in the last 24 hours. Deuces.

Obv I'd prefer heavy, there's a reason I'm there. Also p sure I've said most of that before you, not after you.

RTE said it as well, but I don't think you fully understand all the ways this could work, and for someone so absolutely confident I'm a wolf, you're still not voting me. You're literally just lying here. Like, flat out, this is a lie. You can call it "paraphrasing" all you want, but that doesn't make it any less of a bold faced lie as to what happened. My god. Said before, still down with RTE Still lying. I never attacked him for it. I don't even care about you being wolf/town at this point, if you're town then you as a person are a liar. No, it was definitely not a joke, gud has gotten a "soul read" pass all game.

That "chop chop" feels a little insulting, not gonna lie. Probably deserved after D1 mocking though, so eh. As for trying to get people to vote me, yes, Heavy has been trying to convince people to vote me all day, as have Gud/Turin. Oh they hide it under the guise of "Lets not vote anyone until we all agree, but if they were willing to put their money where their mouths were in regards to me being a wolf, I'd have at least those 3 on me right now. As for voting heavy, no one has really backed me on this. RTE "thinks" heavy is just emotional new town, while Turin/Gud are against him almost on principle due to being willing to vote me. Other than that, Cairos I can't say I noticed much from, trying to stay back. As for the RTE train, no one has really mentioned Turin while most everyone has said "Yeah, I'd lynch RTE" but no votes have been cast. tldr if you're asking which train has been slower to start, it's Heavy's. If you're asking which train is building up more speed, it's mine.