The books are available in audio book format, narrated by Kate Reading and Michael Kramer.  Dragonmount may have them (check the STORE), but I only saw the ebooks available.

https://www.amazon.com/Eye-World-Book-Wheel-Time/dp/B00026WUO6

I haven't done a re-read for a few years now so my memory of it all is a bit shaky, but I do recall that Jordan gave little bits along the way.  The first and largest being from Moiraine as she instructed Egwene and then Rand.  In later books, and as each channeling character has moments, you sort of learn along with them.  For instance, you'll learn a lot about the male half of the source when you reach book 6.

What I'm getting at is that I don't recall there ever being a top to bottom listing of how the 'One Source' works and how it is utilized.  Jordan just clarified points where the story needed to be clarified with regard to the magic system.

I think he did it this way so that it was a constant story, rather than a huge exposition.

I submit the following chapters:

- Lews Therin creates Dragonmount - "Dragonmount" (EotW prologue)
- Moiraine tells the story of Manetheran - "Tellings of the Wheel" (EotW chapter 9)

- Rand and Loial 'steal' back the Horn of Valere and the ruby dagger - "Beneath the Dagger" (tGH chapter 19)

- Mat blows the horn - "The Grave Is No Bar To My Call" (tGH chapter 47)

- Perrin awakened by wolves to the shadowspawn attack on the camp - "Shadows Sleeping"/"Nightmares Walking" (tDR chapters 4/5)

- Mat blows a hole in The Stone - "Into the Stone" (tDR chapter 54)

- Rand defeats all remaining shadowspawn in The Stone with one channeled weave - "The Stone Stands" (tSR chapter 10)

- Rand in the glass columns in Rhuidean - "The Road to the Spear"/"The Dedicated" (tSR chapters 25/26)

- Nyneave shields Moghedian - "Into The Palace" - (tSR chapter 54)

- Perrin, Faile and all of the 2 Rivers defeat the shadowspawn - "Goldeneyes" (tSR chapter 56)

- Mat dissecting the best plan of battle to Lan after a glance at the map - "Before the Arrow" (tFoH chapter 42)

- Mat coercing the Cairhienin and Tairens to follow him into battle - "This Place, This Day" (tFoH chapter 43)

- Moiraine sacrifices herself - "Choices" (tFoH chapter 52)

- Nyneave bests Moghedian again and forces her to lead them to where Rand fights Rahvin (tFoH chapter 55)

That's my list for books 1-5.  As time permits, I'll add more for the rest of the books if noone else mentions them.

I don't like the comparison at all. RJ certainly didn't intend for readers to make a connection like that either, as far as I can tell. 

I have to admit that Rommel was one of the few German Generals that believed in proper ethical treatment of POWs, and wasn't a card carrying NAZI  (like most of them around Hitler).  He was implicated in and forced to commit suicide for the July 44 plot to assassinate the Corporal, but we don't have proof (that I'm aware of) that he was actually part of the plot.

Having said that, considering slavery (channelers/da'cavole (sp?)) and torture, I suppose that Mat leading the Seanchan isn't too far removed on the ethics scale from being a General for Nazi Germany.

I won't watch one minute of this series beyond the realization that she wasn't included - if that is what is occurring.   

This isn't something that I am giving a knee-jerk reaction about... I am willing to allow artistic license to a degree as well as changes necessary for change of medium, but dropping her character is way outside the degree I'm willing to go or accept as needed due to medium. 

My daughter keeps asking for it, I'll probably get it for her at Christmas.

I rarely have time anymore, but when I do, I still keep going back to Hearts of Iron IV, despite the bugs and the horrendous AI... It still the most comprehensive WWII sim I've found or heard of.

3 minutes ago, Krakalakachkn said:

My earlier recommendation of the Four Feathers made me want to watch it for the first time in 10 years or so.

 

I retract my recommendation.

Lol, Four Feathers was slow and probably boring to many, but it wasn't too bad...  Heath Ledger gives a good performance.  But to be honest I've never watched the movie from start to finish, always caught it after it had already started and always had something else interrupt it / distract me away.  I wouldn't recommend it wholeheartedly, but it's better than watching golf on a Saturday afternoon.

Separately, I believe the Sudan was the setting, not Egypt. 

18 hours ago, imlad said:

Now the question is, was that the right thing for him to do?

I'm a latecomer to this series, I only started in after Towers of Midnight was published.  So obviously I wasn't part of all that speculation and theories put out by fans at that time.  I did become quite active (for me) in Dragonmount and to a lesser degree Theoryland, quite impatiently awaiting aMoL. 

That we now have the evidence public from Terez's post on Theoryland that @Sabio linked regarding Taimandred , I am a bit taken aback for several reasons. 
- I had not known that Terez was one of the Taimandred believers (or Jason, for that matter, but I've never had personal interactions with him). 
- I am surprised that she (Terez) made it public in 2015 and that I'm only now finding it for the first time (bad on me...).
- I had always taken RJs denial of it as absolute truth 

After a few days to think it over, it still seems to bring RJs memory, or better said as his integrity, down a notch in my mind, but only by a single notch.  I remember reading that RJ was an active lurker on fan forums, and it's easy for me to speculate that was because in his mind he was not only writing an epic fantasy, but also writing a mystery series.  He clearly loved to be able to surprise his audience.  He also loved to give his characters their Moments of Awesome  (previous phrase is copyrighted/trademarked to Leigh Butler, used without permission) at times that readers weren't expecting them.

Given his penchant for this, I can on one hand personally forgive him for changing his book(s) simply because his fans had figured something out, and he wouldn't be able to have the grand reveal at the time of his choosing.  But on the other hand, it makes me wonder if possibly this was the impetus/catalyst that started the whole backslide into the overly long side plots of death?

There are already hints/clues that they won't be trying to keep it to a single book per season.  The chapter titles that have been given so far for season one suggest that at least part of The Great Hunt will be in season one.  To my knowledge, there hasn't been explicit confirmation of this from Rafe or Amazon.

As a diehard fan, I wanted it to be that way (1 book per TV season) through most of the series.  In my mind it would have been perfect to have the first 6 books as 10-12 episode seasons.  Following those, the TV series could condense books 7 and 8, together into a single TV season, then also books 9 and 10 into a single season.  After that middle portion, for books 11 through 14, the TV series would go back to a full season per book.  (The events from the prequel New Spring could be interspersed as flashbacks throughout the early and middle seasons.)

I tried seasons 1 and 2 of Syfy's Van Helsing via Netflix.  Its just another Apocalypse series, only instead of zombie apocalypse its a vampire apocalypse.  But I stayed through it... I don't recommend it unless you're into cheesy fantasy.  I only watched it to have a means of shutting off the real world for a while.

6 hours ago, SinisterDeath said:

I'm purposely not watching any of their games, 'cause every-time I watch, they lose.
So I'm applying Schrödinger's cat to the Vikings.

LOL, I do the same with my team... what is it about football and superstitious fans?

I actually record that games, then I check the scores from my phone about 1 hour after start.  If my team is ahead I will start watching the game, with the ability to fast forward through all the commercials. 

Edit... Aw crap.  Now I've just jinxed my strategy and I'll have to just watch the score from outside.

1 hour ago, Zander? said:

Nick Bosa for not just DROY BUT also DPOY thus far...thoughts!??!

he's doing quite well, but I think DROY is his ceiling, unless he overtakes sack lead and maintains the top.  He's a force to be reckoned with though.

22 hours ago, Taymist said:

1. The Box of Delights by John Masefield; a 1984  BBC TV adaptation of the 1935 novel.

2. Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen; the 1995 BBC TV mini series with Jennifer Ehle & Colin Firth

3. Shogun by James Clavell; the 1980 TV adaptation starring Richard Chamberlain

 

Lord of the Rings and the original Star Wars film trilogy go without saying. 

I'm not familiar with these three as books, and only Shogun by its adaptation.  Pride and Prejudice isn't my cup of tea, but my wife has watched it many times. (I did enjoy Pride and Prejudice and Zombies, but only because it was intended to be a farce, also I'm not trying to be callous about your choice here.) 
I think I did intend to read Shogun at one point but have no idea why I didn't... that was a decade or two ago.  As for The box of Delights, I might look into it, but it's not as fun trying to watch things like that as an adult when your children are past the age of enjoying those.

 

19 hours ago, SinisterDeath said:

I never read Harry Potter, but I hear it was good from an adaptation standpoint, even if it failed on some levels.

 

I loved the series "His Dark Materials", and the Golden Compass movie wasn't absolutely horrible, but I was disappointed it never got it's sequel, "The Subtle Knife". I'm really hoping the upcoming TV series is good. 

I read Harry Potter after having it recommended to me.  I was already well into adulthood, but had a young daughter that I wanted to get hooked on reading.  The films weren't great adaptations, but they pulled most of the right emotional strings.  My daughter has read the series at least 10 times now, and we have watched the movies many times together.  They just aren't enough to be among my favorites.

I didn't realize that the 3 novels you mentioned were all part of a series until I googled them.  That's a series I'll check out.

Hey all!

I have been wondering, with WoT about to be on screen, what is your all time favorite adaptation to date?  It can be to either large or small screen, but it must have been in print before going to screen, even if it was obscure.

For me, there are two that are equally my favorites, (but I'm likely forgetting some important one(s))

1. Lord of the Rings trilogy
1a. Gone to Texas (The Outlaw Josey Wales).

Looking forward to some of you reminding me of others that I like.

5 hours ago, SinisterDeath said:

Tucker & Dale vs Evil is one of my all time favorites. It's like a reverse horror film.

 This ^^^ Couldn't stop laughing.  In my mind it cements Alan Tudyk as one of the best in the horror comedy genre.

I also loved Shaun of the Dead and to a lesser extent, Zombieland
Like @Illian Tear mentioned.  I'm going to watch Zombieland 2, but I'll wait for streaming... it's not something I'm willing to pay $12 to see in a theater.
 

On 10/15/2019 at 9:58 AM, solarz said:

The Tower does a lot of things that defy common sense, like restricting the age of novices even in the face of dwindling numbers. These things all have a reasonable basis, but they become unreasonable when circumstances change and the AS refuse to change the way they do things.

 

This is due to several factors:

 

1. Aes Sedai are long lived. Most AS are over 40 years old, many are over 80. As such, they are naturally resistant to change.

 

2. Aes Sedai are ruled by the Amyrlin and the Hall, and both have to fight each other to get anything done. Keeping the status quo is the easiest thing for the two to agree on, so that becomes the path of least resistance. Aes Sedai have always stayed in the Tower until they are called on to help, unless they are assigned as advisors, so that's what they keep doing regardless of whether it makes sense or not.

 

3. The Black Ajah actively works to undermine and corrupt the WT. Who knows how much they shaped the Tower's policies over the millenia?

I agree with these but I also think you missed the symbolic one.  The one you missed among your three is that RJ appears to have symbolically paralleled the White tower to the Catholic church.  They're both unbending, exclusively one gender for all important positions, and set on traditions even when flying in the face of common sense.

I'll join also.

On 9/23/2019 at 8:55 PM, JJLXL said:

I hope there are no visual tells that someone has embraced and/or seized the source.  The only tell in the books is when Male channelers get goose bumps if saidar is embraced near them.  If everyone could tell someone was holding the source because of laser beam eyes, that would be a sad thing, IMO.

I haven't done a re-read in a while now, however, I think there are many 'tells' or indications when Rand is seizing the source, particularly during the period where he gets physically sick and dizzy at the point of seizing.  There is also the worry of LTT taking it away from him... 

So anyone that is around him a lot would definitely notice, and anyone with very high intellect and insights into using the Power would also be able to deduce I would think.

There isn't enough context within the quote you gave... however I think you're referring to when Semirhage has Cabriana (sp?) and her warder.  If I recall correctly, there was a definite, but subtle sado-masochistic feel to that scene.  

You can simply think of it as torture, or you can read further into it than Jordan explicitly states... either way, it was torture taken to a new level.

52 minutes ago, SinisterDeath said:

When you're better at WoT Geography then the real thing...

Uggh.  You're not the one that gave this following answer, are you?

In this era of instant gratification I'm very curious how many / what percentage of the overall audience (or public in general) actually have the attention span to wait a week for the episodes.   

I am speaking in light of the fact that to this point, Amazon series are expected by everyone to be available as full seasons at the release.  We're all aware of GoT's popularity, and it was released weekly.  However, the public expected this from that medium/source, whereas it isn't expected from Amazon.

As a die hard fan of the book series, I'd wait only if I was forced to.  While I definitely like the idea of having a week to digest and discuss what occurred in episode 'X', I don't have other known fans around me (in person) to have anyone to talk to about them.  Dragonmount is my only option, and typing/waiting for a reply isn't the same as being able to speak and listen.

For viewers that aren't familiar with WoT, I suspect they'd lose interest if each and every episode isn't utterly amazing.  I mean, there is figuratively an infinite amount of choices that people have to spend their time on. 

One other point, I have (somewhat to my own shame) on more than one occasion continued to watch bad/crap series simply because it was available as a full season.  Conversely, I have always 'binge watched' a good series simply because it was available; there was no chance that when time permitted I'd stop to simply savor the ride.

Wow, you've got a lot more insight into the crew than I've ever thought of digging into.  I knew of Rafe prior to this since I was a fan of Chuck when it was still being produced.  Agents of Shield, not so much.  I always felt they severely screwed it up, not reaching even one tenth of its potential.  I don't know how much of that should be put on Rafe's shoulders, but he was involved...

As far as the actors, I've only seen Rosamund and to a much smaller degree, Daniel.  I have no real bones to pick with these choices, even though these characters look very different in my minds eye when I'm reading the books.

For the Emonds Fielders, I am most happy that we got unknowns.  These are very likely going to be "make or break" roles for both the series and each of their careers, we can only hope that each will be able to give stellar performances, endearing themselves to the viewers.  Failing that, I think we'll not get more than a season or perhaps two before the show is cancelled.  This is going to be the most difficult for Zoe as Nyneave and for Barney as Mat.  First impressions in the books for these two were horrendous as RJ wrote them.  One was a prissy, know-it-all martinet, the other a lazy, no-good shirker.

I agree with Elgee.  It's sweeping, but it isn't epic.  WoT needs epic music.

Here's a link: 

It appears like this is may actually be what will  be the opening theme music. they are using the trademarked wheels.