I think this too. I think it would be hilarious if the Mentalist check looked up a Mafia AND the Symp. Sinister says he's hinted at his role? I'm gonna have to read through this whole Thread and for that H8U Sinister. I think maybe another look at the End of Day 1 voting needs to be done, to see who unvoted Heavy... *cough NOT Peace* and who did unvote and who seemed comfortable voting for Teph and when they voted etc. Shame we don't got Zander and his deadly Voting Math skills.

I never like it when you say things like this. It'd a subtle way to cast Shade. Like I need coaching on how to play this game dude.

I dunno Heavy. Your post is kinda long. Also natural thought progression is good to see. I like it cos it means people aren't worried about making mistakes or being cautious. Sinister doing this still is making him more and more Town for me.

It's super late. I am back at work from tomorrow. I would like to explain my statement that Darthe gonna Darthe is not a negative thing. Everyone has their own ways of poking for info. But it's too late at night for me to help with the pokes now.

I'm not Mafia. I had the Doc parcel on Night zero and passed that to Dice. I had the Traffic Analyst on night 2 and got 9 roles used. I passed that role on. I do not currently have a parcel.

I know. We have different opinions. I've explained mine. Mine being different to yours is ok. I'm not going to interfere with whatever you are doing bit I can't give you anything else apart from why I'm doing what I'm doing. And I'm gonna trust that you ate doing what you are doing for a reason. Even if I don't understand what that reason is.

What the actual heck.

Pretty sure I already was I'm not sure why you trying to Darthe me. I am not on your list of 2.

That doesn't really matter. I'm not after that. Your opinion of me is not necessary for us to win. But I will note your thoughts on this in case you later refer to them.

If we don't go for Peace, and i think Peace is a wolf. I would vote for Turin.

I'm just seeing Peace being flakey and annoyed and trying super hard to NOT give any reads on anyone apart from voting for Sinister. But that works too. It's a depreciating tactic on Peace side cos the clock is ticking and the numbers are on Town's side.

Potato/potato Darthe gonna Darthe. Peace is Mafia. Teph was mafia Turin or Sinister are Mafia Don't ever give Ed a gun

It's a real shame Dice can't come back till Game Tomorrow. I'd love to know what he did.

Apart from he didn't answer all my questions He didn't give who he thinks who the remaining Mafia are He's not gonna antagonise me, as I already think he's Mafia and poking me back would not dissuade me of that. Why is it so hard to accept that maybe I'm just right. I changed to Teph because his vote reason on Tigs/you was awful. Teph didn't unvote till a while after you came back and then Teph went to Heavy. Teph didn't unvote when Heavy claimed he also didn't try and claim a role. Teph is confirmed Hot Potato. I don't think that was a pass along role as its not actually described as being passed along in the role list. Peace slanked onto Heavy with a very weak reason that I checked and disproved. I think the Mafia team were caught on the hop. I also think Peace won't give any alternative reads because he forgot to be consistent in early game. He thought he could just follow along with me. And now he can't. Leaning Town is as good as we can get, but I'm not gonna vote for someone who has a generally Town positive role.

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He didn't want Teph to be Lynched. He was expecting to see a Sinister lynch going down. He wasn't prepared for it not going down and didn't have any other possible mafia leans. He limped onto Heavy saying he was his next strongest Mafia lean. I checked ALL of his previous posts that related to Heavy. They did not indicate a strong mafia lean at all.

I'd love to see your 'strong posts' from Peace lol

Oh you said what if Peace is Town? If Peace is Town then he wouldn't know who the Mafia are... so it could still be either Turin or Sinister who is Mafia And Teph. But I don't think Peace is Town. .. so as he's been pushing Sinister for two days and hasn't been able to give a read on ANYONE else then that makes me think more likely Turin is Mafia.

It was Teph. Your post that says Peace is doing Town things, where you say I'm just biased, is wrong. He didn't give two people he thought might be Mafia My timeliness of the Day 1 lynch and his actions there was accurate My finding of his previous posts about Heavy, after he said Heavy was his number 2 Mafia lead was accurate

Hey Darthe. Yeah no. I think you judging Heavy based on his posts calling you. Heavy had a confirmed pro Town role. He was dead and is back now. Same Heavy. He needs to calm down the aggro though. Peace is not just random head hunting. I got receipts and I've posted them. I wasn't even really looking at him till he started to constantly agree with me and laugh at everything and was a real follower and then... A lame duck limp onto Heavy when the Sinister vote tailed off Saying he had Heavy as a high Mafia read. I checked and he did not Not unvoting Heavy when he claimed a pro Town role when he was there and able to do so Saying later that he does feel Heavy's role was Town positive Getting all snarky and name called at me in the night Having and awful lot of flyby and BRB posts since Teph got his and I called him out for his activity Please don't do the 'love ya' but you don't know what you doing. It's kind of demeaning. I'm not gonna make up an alternative. You get me some evidence that counters my evidence. You don't just say 'hey but you bad' I'm still 1. Peace 2. Turin/Sinister 3 symp maybe Eddie cos of shooting. Maybe Sinister... lol be funny if Peace lynched his own symp. Maybe Shad with the Werewolf thing.

Gud is right on the money here. We can't tell people how to post and what they can and can't say. There's a DM Mafia Cliche role called 'The Sole Arbiter' and they feel they can police people and decide how they should and shouldn't play. Don't be that person. I told you often enough you can play however you like and you gotta let other people do the same. Plus you know... content is content. It's all useful in one way or another.

Also DM does suck today. It's super slow and laggy. That's why I decided to just have a nap and see if it was more better when I woke up lol

This says the Hot Potato gives the potato to someone and the person they give it to can't use their role. There's no mention of them actually passing the role along. Have a look at all the parcel roles. They say something slightly different. It's subtle but all the parcels say pass the role along. There's no mention of the Potato passing their role along. I don't think it is a pass along role. I think Teph was the Potato and he was/is Mafia and that's why Peace didn't want to vote him, or Unvote Heavy, despite him later saying he felt Heavy's Apportioner role claim was a Town lean role. And Peace WAS THERE despite him trying to say I was misrepresenting the timeliness. Also Teph never bothered claiming lol. Probs hard to claim if you the Potato and the Cop parcel and Doc parcel had already been accounted for. And they probably never planned for him having to claim cos the Mafia team were expecting that Sinister would be Lynched. Let's try and not get sidetracked. There are 22 possible roles and only 14 players to start. Maybe not all the roles are in the game? Maybe there's isn't even a Bus Driver? But the possibility of a Bus Driver would give the ability to cause doubt in results. So I think there is a Mafia in 1. Peace. He was unhappy that Sinister vote had gone. He hasn't given a reason for not even considering unvoting Heavy. He was being super nice and friendly with me until I stopped going for Sinister and then he turned and snarked and name called. He's said I'm misrepping when I'm just posting actual things he has done and said. His slide to Heavy was garbage yesterday. He didn't think he'd need a secondary name to push. He still can't give a second name now. 2. Sinister/Turin ... with the interactions and the stuff on the Teph Vote. I'm gonna have to say that Turin now seems more likely out of these two. I don't think that Peace would be pushing the Sinister vote so hard, on two consecutive days if he was a known team mate. I think Sinister could still be the Symp, but maybe that's just part of me not wanting to be wrong on my Night 0/Day 1 thoughts. But Turin has given a list of reads and I don't think Sinister has. And Eddie could also be the symp cos his only reason for shooting Heavy was that his train slowed down. And it slowed because he claimed a Town positive role. Eddie didn't mention the claim or whether he believed it or not. And if Eddie thinks Trains slowing down is enough of a reason to shoot, without considering the claim then why didn't he shoot Sinister when that Lynch slowed down and moved. ***Please note I don't think Peace has given a breakdown of who his thoughts are on the remaining Mafia team players. Just the vote on the one person... Sinister. I've asked him many times and he says he has answered and I'm misleading but I think he just doesn't want to get burned again... like when he slid onto Heavy yesterday. I told him I'd be checking his posts and I think he just doesn't want to give any other names because of that lol. Turin has given reads on people. Did Sinister? Have I missed it while I was napping lol I know lists suck people... but two or three names are not that bad surely?

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I'm not the Siren. I just did that cos it's funny and people were sick of all my words. I'm hardly gonna tease a role that kills people. When Dice gets back he can tell us what he did. I had the Doc parcel on Night 0 and gave it to Dice. I had the Traffic parcel on Night 1 and passed that to someone I hope is good. Did you see that Heavy's train was fizzling because he'd claimed a role. Did you not believe his claim? Ed, you think the Mafia are giving the guns? That's so twisted but you know... Pirate. He'd be giggling if Town killed itself. I assumed the Gunsmith would be a Town thingy.