I've read games (or pieces of) here and there. I wasn't really paying any attention for meta purposes though. I vaguely remember something about you saying you were trying to mellow out more. You were quite worked up as 1.0 thoughn so the switch is kinda weird. 

The crusher meta-ish thing is because of Hally's Little Miss mafia game where I co-modded. He was scum and by himself for most of the game bc we had a no show and he was quite convincing as town. 

9 minutes ago, Zanatron said:

Ya if Keys Scum gg my dear and someday I can hope to live up to your namesake.

 

Key if your Town and we somehow pull this W out of our asses youre the obv Town MVP, you're the only reason Ive been able to summon anymoee WiM

[Insert video of Queen's "under pressure" here] 

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You were working hard before you were killed!

I am willing to consider scum!Nyn. I remember liking when she was around, but J am also shite at reading her. She's a good player in either alignment. 

Looking back at votes, she did push Lii's confusion ITT...but Lii *was* being very unhelpful.

Either when I don't think we go there today.

Crush & IT work well for trains. I'm much more in favor of Crush than IT though. I still have this niggling feeling that IT is newb towning. Not completely sold on that though. 

I want to go back and look at how often crush mentioned needing more bunny. If it's not a lot a Crusher/Nyn team might be possible 

Sorry to vote you on your anniversary!

Vote Crush

Your sudden agreeing on dice is weirding me out slightly lol. 

On 10/8/2019 at 2:18 PM, dicetosser1 said:

unvote

 

shes saying not town and doc i think cause lily is the leader of shayoul ghul   and therefore a darkfriend in wot terms

 

i already figured this morning that zander or nyn werent the doc   and doubted it was crusher.

Does dice make this post as a wolf? Why go out on a limb to try and defend/explain Liitha when she's an easy lynch?

Oh awesome, ty on the vote count. Now it's easier to go back and look at the votes.

@Nynaeve - okay, I get that. I remember thinking the "Be Smart" was weirdly out of left field.  

Then IF IT is scum, that further solidifies that he has an experienced player with him, imo. 

Are either of you on a computer where you could find the VC for EOD2 where Liitha died?

@Nynaeve - can you explain a little more re: views on Cory bringing attention to himself? 

I'm here for a bit while the kids watch a movie. My husband is on the laptop, so I'm stuck on mobile. 

There is no way I come in this busy as scum when it would be so easy to slide by in this game lol. 

I get that IT looks sketch. I could go there.  I don't think a teammate would have been an inactive though, bc the NKs seem like an experienced person - Cory due to rep and Zander because he was the only person around enough and trying hard. 

Crusher is probably my top wolf pick off play. It's a WIFOM regarding killing Nyn off the bat, bc imo, he'd know that she's think that. 

After that I guess IT because he's been the most sketchy. 

After that...I'm not sure. My town read on Z is from before he was killed. He's been all right since he's been back - certainly more active than most which is a point in his favor. He's also been reasonable about his tunnel on dice though, so that skeeves me a little. I also didn't see any of that righteous townie capitals and exclamation points. But that's all eh. 

I still think dice looked like town in his discussion with Liitha. I don't see anyone arguing so viciously as scum. But Z is right that dice hasn't done much this game. 

Nyn looks good when she's here, so I'm glad she's back. I wouldn't lynch here today. I want more interaction for sure.

Weekends are hard for me; lots of family stuff. I will try to make it kn later for a more extended period of time. I think we have 11-ish hours left?

@dicetosser1 - I get that you think Z is in a tunnel and fair enough on IT. What are your thoughts on me? On Crusher? On Nyn?

@The Crusher - Congratulations!! Please have a wonderful day because you both deserve it!

I think you'll miss the DL if you come back tomorrow, so if you get a second more thoughts would be great. Like on me, on Nyn, on IT. I get it if not though, family comes first :). 

Here between meetings.

@Zanatron - I joined right before her lynch.  I was trying to get people to not lynch someone that I thought was pretty obviously town, if not helpful town. She said something like "I'm not town, I'm a doc."  I don't know what to tell you other than to me that looked like someone who was separating power roles into their own category.

I haven't played in like 4+ years, so I'm not surprised you don't have meta on me.  

Speaking of meta, you didn't come in all OMG, I'M TOWN AGAIN, LET'S DO THIS!!! ...should I be worried?

re: IT - yeah, I'm getting that vibe too.  Like I've said a couple of times lately, his posts look more like a confused townie to me, but they could also pretty easily be confused scum as well.

re: Crush - he did say he was busy last night and would come around again.  I am still going through back through the game, so I'm not sure about earlier yet.  I'm still weirded out by his discussion with Liitha though because I feel like he was taking advantage of her confusing posting style and your (townself) frustration.  I've been a mod where he was scum on his own and I know he's a sharp cookie and good at looking townie whilst being scummy.  He's probably my top wolf just off gut and that one exchange. Like I said though, still going back through though and am looking forward to his catch up. 

So no wolf other than dice?  If he was a wolf, who's his teammate?

@Nynaeve - Hi!  Looking forward to your comments later :).  Sorry for people :/.

@Krakalakachkn - tomorrow at 10pm for what time zone?  https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/create makes useful timers! ?

@z - before I leave, what are your reads on people other than dice?

Also, I freaking hate going back through without ISOs or searching lol.  It's a PITA.  

I have a lunch.  I'll be back for more this afternoon. 

5 minutes ago, Zanatron said:

 

[...] And I dont recall 1 single "Dicey" post at all from him that i look for from Town!Dice and he never gave a read on me all game coming from the guy who claims to read me best and has read me from my very 1st post numerous times.

 

Ya i thought the only other thing maybe was slow rolling a PR.  But in a 10er with Cop and Doc flipped I'm not feeling that at all.

Re: no read on you...that is kinda weird.  I thought I remembered seeing one?  I'll look for it as I'm going back through.

I def don't think town has another power role.  I know this is standard and not basic, but that would be a little overpowered I think. 

Honestly I think both noob town and noob scum tend to disappear...but it's different when you have a hydra with someone who is more knowledgeable.  I wasn't really figuring Lav into my calculations much, because I think I'm past the point where she was really active.  ...thinking "out loud here" but would she really post pictures of wolves as a wolf?? The thought of that weirds me out.  Like, she didn't seem experienced enough to be able to comfortably make that joke.  

On 10/5/2019 at 7:50 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

im finding it funny that ure  dont lije the tone to me of all people ?

 

the next bit is fair enuff . thats a reason i can buy from you.  Your voting a townie but at least you have a reasonable reason. your just wrong is all

 

 

 

On 10/5/2019 at 8:18 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

town with a side of paranoia.  

These look like normal dice discussion to me. 

On 10/5/2019 at 12:22 PM, Illian Tear said:

She was the one everyone seemed to want information on, so I voted her to try and get some game related discussion going.

This honestly looks like inexperienced town. I suppose it could be inexperienced scum who jumped on when a teammate wasn't around.  Looks more like the former though.

14 hours ago, Zanatron said:

So Dice has done basically nothing)g but everyone thinks hes Town because....?????

I'm going to continue going through the game, so something else might appear, but I don't remember getting a scummy vibe from him.  I've never been great at reading dice, but the fight with Liitha I thought looked good from his side. 

I do wish literally everyone would step it up in trying to solve though. 

LOL wb Z. You were so excited to get out.  What made you change your mind?

@Illian Tear - Yes, that's true, we do. Something to keep in mind as you are reading through his posts.  What are your thoughts on the other players in the game? What do you think of me?  Have your reads of LaDice, Nyn, Crush, etc. changed? 

I'm on mobile and sitting at a red light, omw to the gym.

@Illian Tear - thanks for answering. I've been in that boat on either side too. So, are you not talking much in this game because you don't want to dig a hole again? ?

What are your thoughts now? I wasn't here before and Lii and Z both turned up town. 

@dicetosser1 and @Nynaeve - I know I will probably miss your activity times. Where are your reads at?

@The Crusher - where is your head at now, with all that's happened re: Lii/Z and my entering the game? 

@Krakalakachkn - do we still have an open position that hasn't been filled? It's Day 3 now. 

8 minutes ago, Krakalakachkn said:

Yep couldn't access DM last night and work was hectic.  Just got home.  Sorry to keep everyone waiting.

 

 

Zander aka Keyholder - vanilla town has been Nightkilled. 

 

It is now Day 3.  Day will end at 10pm on Saturday  the 12th.

 

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Well damn.

On 10/4/2019 at 7:56 PM, dicetosser1 said:

because i havent been fussed about it. im not a wolf so its not like im tipping my hand or something. because having someone jump on it could be a good way to start things/get a line on that person maybe

 

and im still trying to get my head around lav myself.  and the fact that the game has been slow to start has made it a little harder to explain stuff cause i have nothing to point at as an example

this is a big plus on the town side for dice.  I feel like anyone who was wolf and had Lav for a partner would be trying to coach her/get her to calm down on the pic posts because it will draw heat if you're not actually playing.  Or maybe that's just what I would do.  I like to play clean as a wolf.  I like quadruple check my posts lol. 

On 10/5/2019 at 6:03 AM, The Crusher said:

Me thinks it is. Don’t like the tone of it. Never a big fan of the “ if I was scum thing.”  It sets a false narrative. If this, if that talk.. WIFOM if you will. 

This reason for voting dice is a meh reason to vote someone.  Countless people use WIFOM and "if I was scum".  It feels like a cheap reason to put another vote on LaDice. Also, why not acknowledge that you were putting a second vote on someone? Why not discuss with dice while he was in thread, since we all know there are times that he's not around and we want answers?

...I had like 4 more quotes than this and they disappeared. GRRR

I liked Nyn's discussion on page 10, even if I don't agree with Crusher looking good. 

IT shows back up on page 11 to discuss Serial Killers...but not the gameplay that has happened since they've been around...that they wanted to kickstart in the first place?

I have to go.  I might have time to dig in more tonight.  If not, it will be in the morning.

Oh.  I will have to post as I am going through because it's harder to do a Wall of Text with this new system.

Also, I have been helping students with papers, so I don't have a lot of time before I leave.  That's page 9, I think.  I'm heading back in to do a few more before I have to leave.

On 10/4/2019 at 6:18 PM, Illian Tear said:

Just to get stuff going because we don't have any information right now;

 

Vote: Lava

This vote is interestingly timed to me because IT had been in the thread as Lava was posting pictures, and said nothing about it.  Then after Z, dice, and Nyn started discussing - Z and Nyn casting a bit of shade saying she's maybe taken it too far and Z mentioning that dice is scummy - then IT puts this down with the poor explanation of "to get stuff going"...but dice had been in the thread in fact talked right before and after this, so why not ask dice questions?

Admittedly that seems more likely clueless townie, but I can't rule out clueless wolf either because I don't know how much IT has played and maybe there is little discussion with dice because going toe-to-toe with someone who has played a lot and is like a bulldog (no offense meant dice ? ) when arguing is nervewracking.

@Illian Tear - how much experience do you have with mafia?

5 minutes ago, Zanatron said:

 

Sorry that sounded bad and not what i meant my namesake, i thought you be qouting and posting stuff while catching up that might help and get people going and shed new light. 

Oh, I see what you mean.  I feel like I sort of did that with my comments about Liitha and Crusher in my reads list already, but I can go back through this afternoon and see if I can find any particular quotes that made me feel that way.  At least about Crush. Comments about Lii wouldn't help anything lol. I have to teach in a bit so I don't have a ton of time atm.