[Basic]What's the theme? - ad lib mafia

bopolis · January 22, 2017

Is there anything in my reasoning to vote him you have issue with?

other than it's clearly an intent to make him look bad without considering anything that might make him look good.

Also, his day 1 and your day 1 were largely similar with them being a huge focus on darthe(granted your day 2's are different since you at least talked about others) so you thinking he's the best lynch and not wanting to give him the same time you want to give others is a problem for me(though it might just be a me problem).

What has he done that made him look good? I looked over his whole ISO and didn't see anything.

hallia vote mostly

that combined with the fact he came around with three hours left in the day when the wagons were closer and he stayed on the hallia one when he could have potentially switched to the villa wagon. Which IMO looks good(this was well before the claim).

Eldrick4221 · January 22, 2017

Read over dice ISO. Still not surprised I didn't remember his content, but I don't have an issue with it either. Probably town

Eldrick4221 · January 22, 2017

that combined with the fact he came around with three hours left in the day when the wagons were closer and he stayed on the hallia one when he could have potentially switched to the villa wagon. Which IMO looks good(this was well before the claim).

That's a decent point, but he tried to keep the focus on Darthe in the same post.

"I'll move to Hally, but cmon guys. Darthe"

That's how I read his vote. The fact that he joined her train pales in comparison to that. Feels like a bus vote for town credit.

bopolis · January 22, 2017

that combined with the fact he came around with three hours left in the day when the wagons were closer and he stayed on the hallia one when he could have potentially switched to the villa wagon. Which IMO looks good(this was well before the claim).

That's a decent point, but he tried to keep the focus on Darthe in the same post.

"I'll move to Hally, but cmon guys. Darthe"

That's how I read his vote. The fact that he joined her train pales in comparison to that. Feels like a bus vote for town credit.

well if wagons stay as is, i guess we'll find out at EoD

bopolis · January 22, 2017

also i still don't buy into the blind lynch thing since everyone's had since thursday night to ruminate about the going ons in the game.

also makes me think lenlo's comment about day 2 only being saturday more wolfy

Eldrick4221 · January 22, 2017

Lenlo's an interesting one.

His points against Wiffy were decent, even if they ended up being on town.

His lack of reading Hally is weird. Feels like he didn't even try.

His read progression on me feels natural, even if he's getting the wrong result there too.

On the whole, he doesn't look to bad. Could still be scum but I'm leaning not.

bopolis · January 22, 2017

Lenlo's an interesting one.

His points against Wiffy were decent, even if they ended up being on town.

His lack of reading Hally is weird. Feels like he didn't even try.

His read progression on me feels natural, even if he's getting the wrong result there too.

On the whole, he doesn't look to bad. Could still be scum but I'm leaning not.

i dont follow his progression on you at all as being good though?

bopolis · January 22, 2017

In a vacuum, AJs vote doesnt bother me. We shall see what he does later.

[v]Wildfire[/v]

For now.

How good do you feel about that read?

About Wildfire? Not great. Its like a 4 page read, she hasnt said much. But I hope it draws her out to post more so I can make it better.

I definitely like it more than voting Darthe

[v]Eldrick[/v]

The way he's seemingly making a big deal out of things that seem insignificant isn't sitting well with me.

I don't disagree. He's either going to be a distraction and detract from real scum hunting or he's scum and pushing terrible angles.

Up until his vote on you, I would have disagreed. With that jump though seems to me hes popping at anything.

I get that, but the immediate comittment struck me as toen. I feel like a wolf would wait. Build up the pressure and then when it was favorable vote rather than just BLAM vote. You dig?

I stand with my original statement. He's pursuing bad leads either way.

Agreed on that much.

in the first quote, he disagrees with AJ about your push on darthe, thinking you immeadiately pushing him is more town indicative than wolf indicative. Then he defends it as why that's the case and they end up agreeing that you were pushing bad leads. Minus the part about voting AJ, my take from this is that he was reading you as a town.

Pg 1 - Interesting to note, Eldrick actually brought up the Watcher before anyone else (#10). This is interesting because if I remember right, hes lambasting Darthe for trying to draw out the Watcher yet here he brings it up before Darthe does.

Pg 2 - Darthes watcher claim (#22). I still dont see this as anything other than null and personally like that it was done because the game is in motion instead of 18 pages of spam. Eldrick immediatly jumps on Darthe (#23) and I mean like, 2 minutes later. Pretty quick. Odds this is a gambit and they are distancing from each other? Putting a pin in that.

Wifi comes in with the post I dont like (#27). Says its a typical Darthe scum move, but then immediatly back tracks. Its like feeling it out. Then theres her remark about AJ/Darthe here, W/W or W/V, saying that atleast one of them HAS to be a wolf. TMI? Poor judgement? I dont see how AJs post isnt seen as a joke and I dont see why AJ has to be CCing to be town here. Laying groundwork for a lynch on AJ should Darthe flip town or vice versa? Another pin.

Pg 3 - DING DING, Eldrick votes Darthe more than an hour later (#43). I thought he had voted faster than that, which is why I thought it a towny move, as he quickly comitted to his read. Disagreed with it but hey he comitted. Now however I see theres a decent time gap between read and vote. Using the reasoning "Its the wolfiest thing so far", but why not vote him an hour ago? The time dif bugs me.

AJ making some good sense (#46). Eldrick getting really testing early (#47). Wifi comes back and throws around just... so many random thoughts as to what Darthe could be doing (#50) while still keeping that "Darthe is a wolf" undertone imo. How is discussion the bad part Eldrick (#52)? The game has started, thats good imo. AJ +1 (#55). MrsClove +1 (56), brought up the same problem of Eldrick talking about the Watcher role first that I just did.

Pg 4 - You say this Eldrick, yet your voting him and touting him as a wolf (#65). Im starting to get a bad gut feeling. MrsClov +1 (#66). Eldrick feels like your reaching here imo (#68). Also seems like your getting kinda flustered, but that could just be me reading something thats not there. Figuring someone out is bad? Now your sussing MrsClov (#69)? Thats a no-no.

Hallia seeing what I see (#75). Yes Iron, I am now (#76).

Pg 5 - Doesnt mean your right (#88). Nolder drops a vote (#97).

Pg 6 - Eldrick jumps ship to AJ (#109), in what looks like an opportunistic vote. Cant explain it, which is stupid when you just spent 5 pages explaining why Darthe is the wolfiest thing ITT, yet you jumped to this vote.

Pg 7 - Darthe returns! I like it all imo. Its alot of my thoughts. Nolder says Darthes claim is anti-town (#134), interested in how. +1 to Darthe (#137).

Pg 8 - Niniel comes in (#152)! Its an easy vote either way. Nothing really to read from it. God I love you MrsClov (#158). Bop comes in (#160), im ok with this.

Pg 9 - I joke about Nolder voting Darthe (#176), Nolder later gets annoyed by this joke. Not much else happens. Verb is on my line of thinking with Eldrick.

Pg 10 - Wifi comes back (#182). I dont know your thought process, so I cant know if this is true. All I know is what you posted. Even if it is truth, I still dont like the fence sitting. Mrsclov (#187) AT IT AGAIN WITH THE TRUTH PREACH IT SISTER

Pg 11 - I dont get this vote on Hallia by Dice (#208).

Pg 12 - Nolder gets annoyed at my joke (#226)

Pg 13 - AJ +1 (#250). Im cool with Bops list (#253) for the most part. Small differences between ours, but nothing I couldnt see as a reasonable difference of opinion.

pg 14 - (#269) another decent Bop post. Dice is correct (#275).

Pg 15 - AJ and Nolder argue semantics. Nothing much in there imo.

Pg 16 - Is it? You call it a small thing Eldrick (#301), yet at the same time switch your vote from Darthe who you had been arguing about for 6 pages at the drop of a hat. How do you see AJs "claim" as anything other than a joke (#305).

pg 17 - Hes right cause he has Zanders slot ldo (#336). Srs though, I just feel I understand that part of Darthe better so I think my version has a better chance of being correct than yours.

pg 18 - Nothing much

pg 19 - Agree with Verbal for the most part (#362). More amazing MrsClov (#366). Disagree with her on Hallia, but its well thought out so I cant fight it. Usually I toss a coin or sheep someone else to figure out Hallia but I wanna try it on my own this game.

I got kinda rushed in the last 3 pages, because I have to leave for more classes, but heres where I am at. I would like an eldrick or Wifi lynch unless something major happens

Loosely ordered (+-1 in the ordering for each person)

Town

MrsClov ------ Good quality posts. I agree with most everything she has said. How is there not something higher than town.

Null-Town

Andrej ------- Gut. Attitude is nice. Makes good sense in some posts

Darthe ------- Darthes return was good imo

Hallia ------- We are agreeing.

Bopolis ------ Im ok with him so far. Wanna say towny bus something in gut is niggling at me.

Verbal ------- Quick vote on Eldrick. His head seems to be where mine is at. Could put him in null, its a thin line.

Null

Niniel ------- Easy vote either way, nothing much to read. Need more content

Ironeyes ----- Relaxed, but no real content yet. Some later thoughts on Hallia.

Dice

Nolder ------- Fast vote on Darthe, opportunistic? If theres no future contribution, dude is a wolf. His convo with AJ is alright, he showed up and talked about stuff which is nice.

Null-Wolf

Wildfire ---- Fence sitting. Outlandish. Open to give her time, see if its just an early misunderstanding

Eldrick ----- Dudes posts are weird. He waited before he voted Darthe, he keeps saying its "The wolfiest thing in the thread", as if that means anything 4 pages in. His problem is the discussion, when there has been 0 actual discussion about the role itself, just the claim. Im torn between over-comitted townie tunneled on a bad read and a wolf who failed to get the quick train they wanted. That AJ vote is bad in hindsight.

Wolf

then he has you as a wolf for the darthe push in this list, which i don't get since he previously thought you were town because of it. yeah he says he's torn, but regardless of titles i don't see how that puts you at the bottom of his list.

So I would have to disagree that his progression on you makes sense

bopolis · January 22, 2017

meh, it says loosely ordered, so i might be making a big to-do over nothing.

Eldrick4221 · January 22, 2017

Lenlo's an interesting one.

His points against Wiffy were decent, even if they ended up being on town.

His lack of reading Hally is weird. Feels like he didn't even try.

His read progression on me feels natural, even if he's getting the wrong result there too.

On the whole, he doesn't look to bad. Could still be scum but I'm leaning not.

i dont follow his progression on you at all as being good though?

I am biased by knowing I'm town. His reasons for changing his read made sense to me.

Why is it not good to you?

dicetosser1 · January 22, 2017

if somoeone can confirm what basic game means on this site i would be very much appreciated.

If it is how i described it then i would think darthe's claim is him just muckign around and eldrick's push into it is wofly.

Other people got around to answering; but yeah, I am with you.

This pinged me.

vote halli

Why did this ping you in particular?

she agreed to easily and with someone that doesnt know darthe. Also that sentence doesnt run like a typical hally sounding one.

Read over dice ISO. Still not surprised I didn't remember his content, but I don't have an issue with it either. Probably town

right you dont remember the first person to jump on and vote the D1 scum lynch.\

i am very seriously considering an eldrick vote. the i dont remember schtick is bugging me, the fact that he only looked into nolder after AJ voted him, town eldrick isos like a fiend just because he can, and he was as focused on darthe D1 as nolder was.

the thing holding me up with nolder. he and darthe have had a beef for a while now and i dont remember him letting his bias get ahead of him like that before. He was SO focused and obvious on Darthe that its making me stop and wonder what it was about.

Eldrick4221 · January 22, 2017

His bottom of that list was null-wolf. That's not a strong read in the slightest, and reflects his feelings regarding me well.

I don't have an issue with him going over the facts and changing how he feels about them.

bopolis · January 22, 2017

maybe i'm being too hard on lenlo's posts.

I guess its possible for him to change his read, but when he defended eldrick initiaqlly to AJ it was on page 7 and then in his catch up he pushed eldrick based on the same posts he was villa reading him for, and nothing is noted to have happened in his catchup in the spoiler abotu eldrick between page 7 and the list so what changed the read to put him near the bottom from villagy? Even if he was fluxing between town/wolf on his read, i would think he would have him in null but this might be a nitpicky me thing.

Eldrick4221 · January 22, 2017

I don't remember you being the first on hally'a train BECAUSE I was so focused on Darthe D1. It isn't obvious in the ISO'D

And I haven't been ISOing as much for technological reasons. I've been playing on a tablet and it's a hassle.

Eldrick4221 · January 22, 2017

maybe i'm being too hard on lenlo's posts.

I guess its possible for him to change his read, but when he defended eldrick initiaqlly to AJ it was on page 7 and then in his catch up he pushed eldrick based on the same posts he was villa reading him for, and nothing is noted to have happened in his catchup in the spoiler abotu eldrick between page 7 and the list so what changed the read to put him near the bottom from villagy? Even if he was fluxing between town/wolf on his read, i would think he would have him in null but this might be a nitpicky me thing.

You do you. I'm just giving my pov, which isn't worth much being I'm the target of the read in question.

Niniel · January 22, 2017

So I take it you rather vote Nolder than Verb now. I will stay on Verb. I don't like Nolder's play but he had a good vote on Hallia, didn't he?

Niniel · January 22, 2017

Bop, Lenlo is in my bottom three.

bopolis · January 22, 2017

Bop, Lenlo is in my bottom three.

Niniel · January 22, 2017

I might not get on more tonight. We'll see how quick my daughter fall asleep.

bopolis · January 22, 2017

i believe nolder is a bad lynch.

And i say this fully knowing if i'm wrong it's probably my ass tomorrow

Eldrick4221 · January 22, 2017

Bop, Lenlo is in my bottom three.

Why?

Eldrick4221 · January 22, 2017

I'm not against voting Verb. I'm against voting him today.

(I know that was @Mrsclov)

If Nolder flips scum, I'm against voting Verb tomorrow. As I said I don't think they are w/w.

bopolis · January 22, 2017

rereading verbal's ISO

I would also be fine lynchign there.

There is alot of filler and not much meat. Alot of questions, jokey comments, and comments on other people's reads but not much original things going on.

The impression i got from their iso is that they are tryign to stay in the middle not really commiting to any reads. I get this because she says several times about people that they could be wolf or villa and that she has alot of nulls, so many in fact that she can't make a real list.

bopolis · January 22, 2017

A think i liked from verbal's eod was the comment to hallia about why question wifi and not the other people voting her,

though i dislike the comment she made with the wifi vote that she needed time to clear up mrsClov and hallia; mainly because she never really talked about hallia previously to this from what I saw so I don't understand what is there to clear up.

Eldrick4221 · January 22, 2017

rereading verbal's ISO

I would also be fine lynchign there.

There is alot of filler and not much meat. Alot of questions, jokey comments, and comments on other people's reads but not much original things going on.

The impression i got from their iso is that they are tryign to stay in the middle not really commiting to any reads. I get this because she says several times about people that they could be wolf or villa and that she has alot of nulls, so many in fact that she can't make a real list.

This post is confusing the hell out of me.

You start by taking about verb.

Then you say they and their (who's the other one you're talking about?)

Then you say she (verb is male)

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