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Pralaya Master

Pralaya

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  On 12/5/2016 at 6:21 PM, BFG said:

 

I'm trying to understand your mind set

 

So did you just forget Amega in the first list that had Zander/Darthe?

 

At the start of the game you had Zander as town, then changed your mind when he 'faked anger to look townie' (paraphrased). Why was your first assumption that he was faking anger when you'd previously read him as town?

 

 

No, I just didn't state the obvious regarding Amega.

 

The starting read was just based on 40 pages or something. As the game went on, there were other things like the notbob lynch, his reaction to random reveal etc.

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BFG Spam Master

BFG

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  On 12/5/2016 at 12:47 PM, Darthe said:

So tomorrow where do y'all stand on sock?

 

Everyone please

Still extremely likely to be town

Eldrick4221 Master

Eldrick4221

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Eldrick

 

Darthe

Zander

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BFG

Pral

 

I still see it being dice and pral because of dice's vote switch at the end.

 

But Pral and BFG being scum together and bussing each other makes sense. Sooh mentioned it a while back to me and it's stuck in my head as a possibility.

 

If Pral is telling the truth about a 2nd shot I'll have to start all over.

Eldrick4221 Master

Eldrick4221

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  On 12/5/2016 at 6:40 PM, BFG said:

Ugh, Dice doesn't vote Pral if they're teammates, but why does mafia!Pral wait to vote?

Pral had a lot of pressure. Dice voted him. Tried to remember his "reason". Was wrong in the reasoning, but stayed on him anyway.

 

Then his move to Cass at the end saved Pral. He tries to write it off as not wanting it to go to rand, but I don't buy it.

Eldrick4221 Master

Eldrick4221

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Then his post after eod. He was happy about the fact that he kept it from going to rand. Happy that because he moved, we lynched town cass.

 

That happiness makes 0 sense from town.

BFG Spam Master

BFG

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  On 12/5/2016 at 6:24 PM, Pralaya said:

 

  On 12/5/2016 at 6:21 PM, BFG said:

I'm trying to understand your mind set

 

So did you just forget Amega in the first list that had Zander/Darthe?

 

At the start of the game you had Zander as town, then changed your mind when he 'faked anger to look townie' (paraphrased). Why was your first assumption that he was faking anger when you'd previously read him as town?

 

No, I just didn't state the obvious regarding Amega.

 

The starting read was just based on 40 pages or something. As the game went on, there were other things like the notbob lynch, his reaction to random reveal etc.

 

I don't know if this can be a really bad case of talking past each other

 

I know your initial read on Zander was based on 40 pages. The post you said was the first one that made you suspicious of him was one that sounds a lot like the thing you accuse Zander of (fitting facts to match tinfoil). Why did you assume that Zanders post was fake anger instead of normal anger?

 

Again, you said that there was mafia in Zander, Darthe. Then you said it was in Zander/Darthe/Amega and that Darthe was POE. So are you saying that we're supposed to assume that you meant to include Amega in the first list and that Amega is POE in the second, despite stating it directly for Darthe?

BFG Spam Master

BFG

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  On 12/5/2016 at 6:43 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 12/5/2016 at 6:40 PM, BFG said:

Ugh, Dice doesn't vote Pral if they're teammates, but why does mafia!Pral wait to vote?

Pral had a lot of pressure. Dice voted him. Tried to remember his "reason". Was wrong in the reasoning, but stayed on him anyway.

 

Then his move to Cass at the end saved Pral. He tries to write it off as not wanting it to go to rand, but I don't buy it.

 

That's really not how Dice treats a partner though

Eldrick4221 Master

Eldrick4221

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  On 12/5/2016 at 6:55 PM, BFG said:

 

  On 12/5/2016 at 6:43 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 12/5/2016 at 6:40 PM, BFG said:

Ugh, Dice doesn't vote Pral if they're teammates, but why does mafia!Pral wait to vote?

Pral had a lot of pressure. Dice voted him. Tried to remember his "reason". Was wrong in the reasoning, but stayed on him anyway.

 

Then his move to Cass at the end saved Pral. He tries to write it off as not wanting it to go to rand, but I don't buy it.

That's really not how Dice treats a partner though

That doesn't mean that isn't what he's doing now.

 

Using meta to exclude a possibility is bad.

BFG Spam Master

BFG

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First

 

  On 12/1/2016 at 9:36 PM, Pralaya said:

 

  On 12/1/2016 at 9:26 PM, randomh3r0 said:

I'm in shock because until the results I hadn't felt they would flip that way. And with the talk of a strongman I didn't first assume BG could've protected me.

 

So that's where I'm at. And reading back.

I don't know. It looked like shad was scum and Calder was town, especially after his stance on NotBob end of day yesterday.

 

Personally, I would next look at Darthe and Zander because the next scum is likely in these two.

 

BFG Spam Master

BFG

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  On 12/2/2016 at 9:55 AM, Pralaya said:

 

  On 12/2/2016 at 8:58 AM, Zander said:

Im not the only one who thinks theres Wolves in there so thoughts on that?!?!?

 

So it seems like you think im a wolf, can you lay out the case on me please?

 

Also would be my partner in that case?

 

And assume for a moment Im confirmed Town somehow, who are the Wolves then iyo and why?

 

You have basically said scum is in sock/cass/dice and has also said I may have bused Shad. Who is remaining?

 

You do realise that except Darthe and Amega and the other known town, you are calling everyone a scum suspect, right? And, I am casing you and showing where I am thinking you are scum. 

 

If you ask me, neither of those 3 are likely to be scum. My thoughts say Zander > Amega > Darthe as the likely scum remaining. I confess though, I haven't read Darthe in detail - this is just from POE based on my town reads

 

BFG Spam Master

BFG

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See the issue is that the first one doesn't sound like he has Darthe in there because of POE, he didn't forget Amiga, he's clear it's the two of them (Zander/Darthe) yet soon after Darthe is just POE, and I feel like Pral is hedging explaining this

Eldrick4221 Master

Eldrick4221

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I actually don't see the issue here. After 24 hours he adds amega to the list.

 

Reason he didn't originally? No content wasn't enough of a reason maybe.

 

Amega's lack of actual content was discussed at some point with Cass and myself. That could have played into the list change.

Sooh Spam Master

Sooh

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  On 12/4/2016 at 11:35 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 12/4/2016 at 9:56 PM, Sooh said:

I never felt Shad made any sort of definite town read on either of us. It was actually his refusal to give such that was pinging. So yeah, he could have easily flipped that read if he needed another mislynch.

 

 

I disagree with this,

 

I feel he did all but lock clear you imo.

 

A lot of my reason for not feeling comfortable with Shad was that I felt like he was hedging on his read. Like he could flip it at any time when it was convenient. He kept talking about how my early game was town lean, but Eldrick could be either, and then that he had to see the follow up from me to be sure. Then he didn't mention it for ages until prompted.

Eldrick4221 Master

Eldrick4221

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  On 12/5/2016 at 7:02 PM, BFG said:

See the issue is that the first one doesn't sound like he has Darthe in there because of POE, he didn't forget Amiga, he's clear it's the two of them (Zander/Darthe) yet soon after Darthe is just POE, and I feel like Pral is hedging explaining this

The first one doesn't feel like reasoning at all. It feels like "look here next"

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