Hackers Mafia - Game Thread [Game Over]

[Pralaya]

Ok. Either dice is scum AND pral is scum

 

Or dice is town

 

Scum!Dice moving his vote doesn't make sense if Pral is town. It doesn't make sense if all the trains are town. It doesn't even make sense if bfg is scum.

 

Dice moving his vote to guarantee Cass lynch ONLY makes sense ifor one of those 2 things is true.

Right....there is a third option which is the likeliest. Both of us are town.

 

And, that is the reason why I think Dice is also town. I don't see a world where dice needed to move the vote at the last minute away from me unless he really thought cass was scum.

[Pralaya]

@Pral the point was that you had Zander/Darthe as most likely suspects. In your next list you'd shifted Darthe above Amega and said that Darthe was there because POE. Why make that distinction between Darthe/Amiga?

 

Why didn't you answer me as to who you thought the team was/clarify your POE?

 

Why if you had Zander as town, would a post he made be 'trying to look town' instead of just thinking he was town from it (assumption being that if somebody does something that makes them look town, the action they're faking is townie by itself)?

Because Amega had no posts and Darthe had a lot of content. Amega being there due to POE was so obvious that there was no need for it to be stated. Don't know what you are trying here (I actually do).

 

The ones I had confidence were town at that time?

 

I don't get the third question. When did I have Zander as town at that time?

[Pralaya]

 

@Pral

 

If I am wrong about Cass, either I'm wrong about dice and he's scum or I am wrong about shad putting a scum in his early town reads.

 

Does bfg/dice make sense to you?

 

Does bfg/cass?

Please respond.

 

Excellent question.

 

To be frank, I don't know. Between you, darthe, zander and dice - I have some things for each of you that make me think you are town. I am wrong somewhere. The simple answer could be you. There is a lot of misinformation that is being spewed and I don't like it.

[Pralaya]

Let's just say it might get resolved tonight. Don't ask where the extra shots came from.

[Darthe]

 

@Darthe After this game is over and you realize everything you've noticed me do this game that made you think I was scum was really town me, will you take this game into consideration on future reads of me?

I do want an answer to this. It can be after the game is over, if you like. The answer will determine whether or not I play in another game with you. Lack of a response will be an automatic no.

I mean, do you expect the answer to be anything other than "sure"? I'm not a huge meta guy bit this would be tough to forget

[Darthe]

Let's just say it might get resolved tonight. Don't ask where the extra shots came from.

Ooh me like

[Darthe]

So tomorrow where do y'all stand on sock?

 

Everyone please

[Darthe]

Or no one please. Seems good.

[Pralaya]

So tomorrow where do y'all stand on sock?

 

Everyone please

I had him as town earlier but I am not so sure anymore.

[Zander?]

I would probably lend a light town lean to Zander and Sooh atp... as far as off the hip reads.

 

Zander I want to beat to death with a shovel or any form of readily available instrument. Preferably dull, as I'd like it to hurt and be excruciatingly slow. He was asking some pointed questions that give me a good feelz about him. I disagree with Sooh that Zander going at "big" targets would be too much work as scum. He has told me before that sometimes he looks for a challenge. For instance that game he was scum and went at AJ, ironically enough... (who I wouldn't consider an easy mislynch target at all). But I do associate his current behavior with his town game, albeit his more sucky range. I will add though that I've yet to see him as scum on DM... but I'm gonna follow my gut. It served me well irt him so far. Still would like to see how he carries on.

 

Sooh I've been sorta going back and forth on. I think her humor always seems a bit awkward to me, so I've put that aside because it's null. She gets brownie points for thread presence, but it's a matter of whether or not she maintains it as well. I liked some of her recent responses to Zander, as part of them was exactly what I was thinking as well. And she seems genuinely frustrated with him. As far as Eldrick goes.... I never know what he's saying (<3 Eld). So I'm mostly gonna be looking at her.

 

 

 

****random gets a special mention for that one post at Zander which I really liked.

 

 

 

The rest... yeah, like Sooh said, need to post more.

 

I dunno this post feels more like Town!Nyn.

 

Her remembering and ref the i like to go for bigger targets as Scum is true.

 

I feel like Scum!Nyn would likely try to pocket me as opposed to telling me im awful even tho its true.

 

Ill need to keep digging.

[Zander?]

 

Personally I don't generally know what to think of dice, because he always seems to be on the other side of the planet when I play or something so it's hard to get a read on him

 

Irt nyn I read her <3 post and seemed to come from a place that felt... idk nervous or pockety and I don't see the same fire I associate with her town game from previous encounter in rustlemania

 

This is a load of crap

 

 

 

First of all, I am ALLOWED to use hearts to my freaking content. It was me acknowledging that we had similar reads and nothing more.  IN FACT, I never gave a read on you one or the other, so you can stuff it.

 

Secondly, we haven't even begun playing here much yet so assessing my "FIRE" is bullshit. 

 

I dont think Scum!Nyn reacts this way to Town!Monstr.

 

This reaction feels pretty in the moment real for Nyn imo and I dont think she could fake that type of emotion because Nyn is a wear her emotion on her sleeve type person and thats harder to fake for non E's imo.

[Zander?]

 

Applicants to the town core need only to talk to its members

 

The odds are in the villagers favor and we need to take wolf numbers advantage away because otherwise they will bully us out of the thread come EoD

 

You came up with some way to play differently? Awesome for you. I'm gonna keep play the way I've always played and that has served me well enough over the years. I don't give a damn if i'm in your f**king core or not. Hope that clears that up.

 

 

Ya Nyn is likely Town and Dice is just being Dice like and wrong.

 

Im sticking to my original read, I dont see Scum!Nyn responding to Town!Monstr like that here.

 

Kinda reminds me of Cory's Spooooooky/Hunted Mansion game actually.

 

This is the inferno that is Town!Nyn's fury imo.

 

Darthe and BFG are still alive and in that game, thoughts?!?!!?

[Zander?]

 

Zander

775 Eldrick4221 715 Sooh 351 Darthe 323

 

 

 

BFG 146 dicetosser1 106 Ironeyes 94  

  Pralaya 65

 

I just dont think Scum!Sock posts over 1000 posts combined this game.

 

I dont think Town!Nyn reacts like that.

 

According to the CCSoHW's theres at least 1 Wolf in the bottom posters.

 

Both Scum in Pral/Darthe/BFG imo

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

I see a world where Darthe votes us and scum piles on and it's a repeat of last game.

This may well be a slip folks.

In what world is that a slip?

 

Last game. You vote dice. Verb and leelou pile on. They win.

 

This game. You vote us. Scum pile on. They win.

 

I see it happening.

Omg he did it twice.

 

Youre admitting here thqt you know im town. You're excluding me as seperate from the category defined as wolves. This is so clear!

hmmmmmmm......

This is annoying me. Spit it out.

 

 

I think youre reaching but Eld's response wasnt great either.

 

Im really thinking this feels like T/T violence.

 

 

Wait, wasnt it a recent Scum game for Darthe where he picked this type of fight/argument with Town Cory?!!?!?!?

[Zander?]

Final Count 3

 

Cass (3) - Zander, Sock, Dice

Sock (1) - Darthe

BFG (1) - Pral

Pral (1) - BFG

 

Not voting: Marsh, Cass

 

5 to lynch

 

No more posting.

 

BFG/Pral distancing and trying to avoid the Town train???

 

Pral's late vote looks bad for self pres as if it was self pres it prolly comes earlier?

 

Thoughts?

[Zander?]

 

Was Pral sussing Cass? I honestly don't remember.

 

Thought she was town to you.

No, I just voted her to save my ass. Because it was between me and her.

 

 

Then why did you wait till after DL...?!?!!?!?!?!?!

[Zander?]

 

5 mins i think left

 

 

 

Vote Count 3.09

Cass (2) - Zander, Sock

Sock (1) - Darthe

BFG (1) - Pral

Pral (2) - BFG, Dice

Not voting: Marsh, Cass

5 to lynchDL in 1.5 hours.

 

 

 

unvote vote cass

 

 

Meh

 

[unvote]

[v]cass[/v]

 

 

Final Count 3

 

Cass (3) - Zander, Sock, Dice

Sock (1) - Darthe

BFG (1) - Pral

Pral (1) - BFG

 

Not voting: Marsh, Cass

 

5 to lynch

 

No more posting.

 

Well hold that thought...

 

Dice just outted himself imo

 

trains were tied 2-2 cass and pral

 

dice IS VOTING PRAL

 

had he left it it would have went to rand

 

he voted so his partner wasnt lynched imo

 

 

As much as it pains me to say....Scum!Dice is prolly better then this...

[Zander?]

So dice/Pral

 

Dice still fits the Shad committed town read. That still makes sense.

 

Dice and pral both in the different groups in the Shad read. THAT still makes sense.

 

Ty Zander for making me think there's still hope.

 

I dont think I believe this anymore.

[Zander?]

Hey if you ninja post and nobody mentions it, what happens?

 

Let's not find out.

 

[Zander?]

 

 

5 mins i think left

 

 

 

Vote Count 3.09

Cass (2) - Zander, Sock

Sock (1) - Darthe

BFG (1) - Pral

Pral (2) - BFG, Dice

Not voting: Marsh, Cass

5 to lynchDL in 1.5 hours.

 

 

 

unvote vote cass

 

 

Meh

 

[unvote]

[v]cass[/v]

 

 

Final Count 3

 

Cass (3) - Zander, Sock, Dice

Sock (1) - Darthe

BFG (1) - Pral

Pral (1) - BFG

 

Not voting: Marsh, Cass

 

5 to lynch

 

No more posting.

 

Well hold that thought...

 

Dice just outted himself imo

 

trains were tied 2-2 cass and pral

 

dice IS VOTING PRAL

 

had he left it it would have went to rand

 

he voted so his partner wasnt lynched imo

 

 

you are a frigging idiot.

 

Were YOU gonna move off cass? Not bloody likely.

 

Was Darthe gonna move off Sock? HELL no!

 

God knows what eldricks EVER gonna do.

 

I was here. I made a lynch happen you idiot. Why the HELL would you want random?? Do you KNOW if aj will random it ONLY between those two or will he do it between everyone? Ive assumed the first in the past and got burnt when the latter happened.

 

I swear to GOD zander if you are town and  do a Darthe on me tomorrow i am going to kill you.

 

 

Youre only prolly Town because of NynGOAT imo

 

I think I jumped the gun after being disappointed over being wrong on Cass.

[Zander?]

 

 

oh no i didnt screw up  thought id quoted monstr too

 

@monstr  dont get lost in ATE bro  stay with us.

 

 

re monstrs core  he asked people he has meta with is how i looked at it and whose responses he was happy with. It is a common thing to ask opinions of people you are trusting or who are on the same wavelength as you.

 

 

Does it not feel like Dice knows its Town!Monstr getting stressed???

 

 

 

@Dice Reason that made this weird is he was already voting you, and you omgus voted him.

 

I agree his response is very different when someone votes him first.

 

town zander should have lost his everlovin mind. whether i voted him first or not. Me voting him at ALL should be getting commentary, especially whwen you consider that if I dont say ITT that he is town he calls me out on it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

@Dice Reason that made this weird is he was already voting you, and you omgus voted him.

 

I agree his response is very different when someone votes him first.

 

town zander should have lost his everlovin mind. whether i voted him first or not. Me voting him at ALL should be getting commentary, especially whwen you consider that if I dont say ITT that he is town he calls me out on it.

 

 

You know how bad this is considering our history right?

 

Your vote is Null there.

 

And you know I know this.

 

This is a bad look imo

 

 

says who? it had 2 purposes  1 was pure fun 2 was to get a reaction and ure reaction SUCKED!

 

 You are NOT clear Town Zander to me right now. you feel a bit off. The fact that you didnt react is just adding fuel to that fire. 

 

 

Again me and Dice joke around all the time.

 

I also voted him FIRST!!!

 

I mean his argument would at least have had some merit if he voted me first and I didnt react.

 

Even then not much because the fact we banter like this in like every game regardless of either of our alignments.

 

I was also getting some suss itt that would allow Scum!Dice to keep his suss on me without having to readjust and look bad.

 

 

Monstr was OBVIOUS you clown!

 

And I STILL maintain ure a scumbag. Only thing im now contemplating is if its u and sock together and ure now getting more blatant.

 

 

Come on Dice if youre a Villager smarten the hell up. 

 

Im Town,

 

Do you really think Scum!Zander drives and leads an lynch on a Townie like that?!!?!?

 

I said why I was off earlier in the game, its the truth.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

<3 Dice (I think you're the only player that fears me when scum though )

What's your read on me?

 

i like the questions ure asking. sounds like town solvey bfg to me. youre isoing away. tho you arnt coming up with firm thoughts out of them. wish you were here more.  town lean is about as far as i will go atm

 

Dice can you talk about Pral?

 

Has barely been here. i dont really remember a lot of what he has said and i cant get rid of the feeling that i should be voting him but as he didnt say what i thought he did i have no reason for it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

ok this is from CASS but i messed it up

 

 

 

because they are good fairly non committal ways to give someone a town lean. easy to flip on if their town easy to make if their ure scum buddy without being tied to it in bands of steel

 

I was going to respond to Cass' post, but I think Dice nails it here.

 

I agree with the start but don't understand how the bold works. @Both of you, how is a 'definitely Town' type read easy to flip on?

 

@Dice, how many times did I use this exact play as scum with Town!you? "Dice is definitely Town!Dice!" You also know that it's a thing.

 

 

I DO know its a thing but you and I are not Shad. Hes trickier then we are. As for how to get away from it??  a post like "i liked when cass was doing this and this  but now shes doing  x  which i dont like and is making me reevaluate

 

flip done

 

Dice who you gonna vote for today and why?

 

Its the weekend and your activity level still hasnt really perked up any.

 

Why is this?

 

you realise i asked for a hydra for a reason right? Im in 2 games on 2 sites and its the busy end of year at work so im getting slammed and im still a bit crook. thats why i wanted a hydra cause i wasnt sure id be able to be active enuff..

 

im gonna follow my gut. Vote Pral  dont ask me for good reasons for it because i honestly dont have any its just my gut screaming.

 

i MIGHt be able to be here a tiny bit before DL but lunch is over so i dont know for sure. depends on the calls.

 

 

Dice vote on Pral. After his reason wasn't justified and was a "gut feeling" vote.

 

 

Scum!Dice would prolly try to justify his vote some more on a teammate in that instance imo.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

5 mins i think left

 

Vote Count 3.09

Cass (2) - Zander, Sock

Sock (1) - Darthe

BFG (1) - Pral

Pral (2) - BFG, Dice

Not voting: Marsh, Cass

5 to lynchDL in 1.5 hours.

unvote vote cass

Meh

 

[unvote]

[v]cass[/v]

Final Count 3

 

Cass (3) - Zander, Sock, Dice

Sock (1) - Darthe

BFG (1) - Pral

Pral (1) - BFG

 

Not voting: Marsh, Cass

 

5 to lynch

 

No more posting.

 

Well hold that thought...

 

Dice just outted himself imo

 

trains were tied 2-2 cass and pral

 

dice IS VOTING PRAL

 

had he left it it would have went to rand

 

he voted so his partner wasnt lynched imo

Lol

 

If you are town, this must be your worst game. If...

 

 

I dont think Town!Pral takes a poke at me like that.

[Zander?]

Ok. Either dice is scum AND pral is scum

 

Or dice is town

 

Scum!Dice moving his vote doesn't make sense if Pral is town. It doesn't make sense if all the trains are town. It doesn't even make sense if bfg is scum.

 

Dice moving his vote to guarantee Cass lynch ONLY makes sense ifor one of those 2 things is true.

 

Good post imo.

 

I think Dice is Town.

[Zander?]

Congrats Zander. I am reevaluating you just like you asked.

 

I am seriously paranoid that you have pocketed me and are setting up another ml. That dice is town and you know it. That you saw the move on dice vote and saw how I would see it as a scum move and would agree with you.

 

You are making too much sense. GET OUT OF MY HEAD.

 

The fact you say Im pocketing you when youve been sheeping most of the stuff Im saying actually makes me feel better about you being Town.

 

Its too backwards to come from Scum!Eldrick imo.

 

And Scum!Sooh likes to push me which she didnt do either.

 

Prolly gonna role with Dice/Sock and obv Iron as Town.

 

Scum in Pral/Darthe/BFG.

 

Need to find one more Villager.