[Standard] Final Fantasy VII Mafia - Mafia Wins D4

[csarmi]

 

 

 

Nyn, I look forward to your insights!

 

I don't have a lot to add to what I've already said. But I want to finish reading through to make sure I'm not missing anything.

 

 

Do you think Liz would put so much effort as scum? Like looking back into games and such?

 

 

From the limited experience I have with her and from what she told me about her own meta when we spoke about it in VCs, she will put in effort as either alignment. But I did well enough reading her in the PerC game and by EoD1 I was pretty confident she was town. Also in a 2:9 game, it makes zero sense to me that they would play it out that way. It's a game of numbers. Sooh wasn't universally suspected. She had some suspicion, some town leans and maybe some nulls. I don't think Liz would purposefully tip that scale in favor of Sooh unless it was inevitable. And I don't think it was. Hell, she came into D2 voting her and putting attention on her!

 

Because: Cory.

[Nynaeve]

I'm flipping through Liz's iso in that 90's music game right now

[Nynaeve]

I haven't gone through it all cause she has like 11 pages and I'm a slow reader. I did read the first 6 pages though. For context, her scummates were Clov, Thane and Wishtree/Lenny. Interaction wise, the players she goes at the most are all townies. Zander specifically, but also a lot of nudges at Darthe, Lenlo and Seph. Her votes keep moving around between townies. When Zander starts circling around Wishtree, she steps in and soft defends her quite a bit and continuously town reads her. She doesn't mention Thane at all from what I see or even talks to him. And with Clov they're basically joining hands and skipping along together. As in she agrees with his take quite a bit and they exchange ideas ITT but she doesn't openly place him as her top town read. Post count wise, she has the same amount as here, though that game was a lot more active than this one. And there's a palpable sense of her dragging her feet in a lot of her posts. There's a lot of complaining too.

 

So in a setup where she had multiple scummates, and would have more wiggle room to get fancy with bussing/distancing, she didn't bus at all. She was either ignoring entirely or town reading her scummates to some extent. Zander was considering Niniel or Lenny for a lynch, if I recall, and she intervened to speak in Wishtree's behalf. She's got balls, I'll giver her that. And it makes absolutely no sense that she would bus the sh*t out of Sooh coming into D2. More so with the that game in mind.

 

Yeah, I'm not voting Liz today. She's town.

[csarmi]

"And it makes absolutely no sense that she would bus the sh*t out of Sooh coming into D2. More so with the that game in mind."

 

Sure there is.

 

1) Sooh was going down regardless.

2) She had Cory as a neighbour and she had to take that into account or get PoE'd out.

 

She still got PoE'd out except Cory's out and y'all don't believe that. Bah.

[Nynaeve]

1. I already spoke about it. It wasn't obvious. Kat was at the lead like 40 mins from DL.

2. OR SHOOT HIM

[csarmi]

whatever

[Nynaeve]

Let me ask you this. If you think Cory would be such a concern to her, why not just shoot Cory instead of Alanna?  I'm working under the assumption that the shot was Scum's because it doesn't make sense otherwise. With a survivor in the picture, I find it hard to believe there would be another third party. 

[csarmi]

Afraid of Cory being protected? Wanting to own Cory?

 

I dunno. Wolves will wolf.

 

I certainly hope you are right (as I don't see Liz being lynched here) ...

[Nynaeve]

@Clov can you state how much time is left till DL? I want to make sure I have it right, cause of all the time changes.

[Nynaeve]

Afraid of Cory being protected? Wanting to own Cory?

 

I dunno. Wolves will wolf.

 

I certainly hope you are right (as I don't see Liz being lynched here) ...

 

With an outed JK and BFG being consensus town?  Come on.

[csarmi]

I'm almost sure it's 30 minutes.

[Nynaeve]

I think it's an hour and a half. But i'm not sure.

[Nynaeve]

No counter

[csarmi]

@Nyn - are you saying that Liz was in a position to vote Kat on D2? If yes, when?

[csarmi]

I think it's an hour and a half. But i'm not sure.

It depends on whether Clov goes with the strict 24h/48h thingy, or added an extra hour when his timezone changed off daylight saving.

[csarmi]

"Day Four ends at 12:30 Eastern on Monday, 11/7."

[Nynaeve]

Well I have to walk my dog. I'll try to be back before 6:30 just in case. But I still think we have an extra hour.

 

[v]Pral[/v]

[csarmi]

It's 11:04 eastern right now so I would guess close to 1.5 more hours.

[Nynaeve]

@Nyn - are you saying that Liz was in a position to vote Kat on D2? If yes, when?

 

For one, she could have started with NOT coming into day voting Sooh. Then she voted you for a while after Cory voted you. I don't think she had a town read on Kat at any point so I don't see any reason why she couldn't vote Kat or push there. Or alternatively push you. But she revoted Sooh before the train built (ie i was the only one voting Sooh at the time).

[Nynaeve]

ok bbs

[Pralaya]

This is going to be so hilarious if nyn ends up being scum

[csarmi]

I don't think Nyn is scum Pral.

[Pralaya]

Sigh, yeah. Frankly I don't think you or liz are lock scum either.

 

Only thing that bothers me is that she spent the last two days mentioning that she is rereading the game on and on. Don't see the intent of winning that liz showed.

 

Abreast, If nyn and liz are going to vote me, the game is lost in any case

[Pralaya]

* Anyway

[csarmi]

@Pral: well you voting a villager certainly don't help either.