[Basic] Disney Heroes vs. Villains Mafia C9++ Town Wins

[Shad_]

But I'm still waiting for a sort of coming out moment with him where he doesn't play with a closed hand.

[Shad_]

It's been a while since I actually ISO'd him so I'll do that before bed.

[Cass]

And yes, I know Lenlo was cop and Nolder was SK in WoW.

 

What I'm saying is I get the same impression/cliffs from Lenlo's ISO here as I did from Nolder there. Ie the play is similar.

[Sili Quirrels]

Rushing cos I gotta run to shops but

 

@Sili, the question I was asking wasn't just why we're you frustrated, it was why would that frustration make you give up / is your resilience reduced/why? I can understand reduced resilience more from a non-Town perspective.

i didn't care enough to get back in it.

[Cass]

What is with this constant referencing WoW that has nothing to do with WoW. o_O

Probably just it's a base plate/reference for me wrt reading DM players? I worked hard and learnt a lot from Cory's admonishments. Trying to apply the same school of thought.

[Cass]

Oh, and Lenlo chucking out a character claim but nothing else was sus.

 

For the last time Tress always gives safe character claims

[Cass]

[V] unvote [/v]

 

[V] Believer [/v]

 

Open up!

[Shad_]

And yes, I know Lenlo was cop and Nolder was SK in WoW.

 

What I'm saying is I get the same impression/cliffs from Lenlo's ISO here as I did from Nolder there. Ie the play is similar.

Apples and oranges. Lenlo was a SK in Nightmare Before Christmas if you want a reference point.

 

Nolder's biggest tell in that game was how he went in with an explicit "I'm going to try some experiments and not play my usual game" line, I think.  He really struggled to keep up with the pace of the game but he expressed his reads with honesty and conviction that had me clearing him as a non-wolf.  There was never a night with two kills so we never did figure out he was SK; he got lynched in the end because the rest of us struggled with the pace too, Lenore's "overwhelm them with words" gig worked as usual and you were confirmed town.

 

lol I just realized you were in that game

[Cass]

I'll try and skim catchup here and there for a few hours but won't be able to sit/really process until about 6-7 hrs from now.

[Shad_]

Don't break yourself.  Oh god I've been in the "ISO everything" zone before and it can start to make the game pretty dreadful.

 

I'm not telling you you're wrong irt Lenlo or anything, I'm just not really inclined to put much consideration into universal tells and Lenlo and Nolder have drastically different meta.

[Shad_]

lol WoW

 

Mafia has never quite been the same for me after that game.

 

Frozen might have been the most bitter loss but by the end of WoW I didn't know what month of the week it was.

 

I blame Kaylee and Tress. 

[Cass]

lol I just realized you were in that game

This irony. I lovehate.

 

I know they're different players/people. But aside from the experiment the fluff and lack of contributing, it pings.

 

I think I already checked out that Lenlo SK game and concluded he was different there in the same way as he's different as Town.

 

K. Running. Later!

[Songstress]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

Kat (1): Believer
Believer (2): Sili, Cass

Not voting (4): Katiora, Lenlo, Celeste, Shander

 

Believer is at L-2

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline for Day 3 is Thursday, 8/25/16, at 8AM PDT/11AM EDT:

[Shad_]

I needed to go to bed an hour ago, not going to be able to ISO Believer tonight but if I ask myself which person am I least likely to accept not lynching in this game, it's not him.  As in, definitely willing to consider as one of the options but I don't think I'd string him up first.  But we'll see what he comes back with; this is the first time he's had any pressure in ages.

[Shad_]

 

 

 

I was amused by his first post considering the context.

 

I haven't seen Penny yet as town so I couldn't agree or disagree what's normal with her. From the angle you were thinking of that 'this vote on a low volume player D1 is good' I get though.

I mean we're talking about the player known for having the largest post count disparity between town and scum on DM. Nearly anyone else, the fact that they'd only posted once when there was nothing of substance to talk about anyway wouldn't bother me.

 

And Sili doing it doesn't really bother me either; he's an easy read and I don't need to rely on lack of content an hour into the game. It's just that with him I notice it.

 

I mean, you're not wrong with the first line, but considering the vote came on (I don't remember what page) I would still argue that it's probably too early to make that kind of read. If we're midway through D1 and he still isn't involved/making pushes/doing anything, then yeah.

 

what if i'm just lazy? is that a valid excuse to mislynch someone?

 

 

 

It's an unfortunate one.

 

It's not a reason to town read someone though.

 

 

 

It's an unfortunate one.

 

you folk expect too much from me. let's lower those standards together. 

 

 

Your meh attitude towards this game emerged pretty early, before you started taking so much flack.  /shrug

[Shad_]

ok sleepsleep

[Believer]

Morning all!

 

It's very unfortunate that most of the action in this game takes place between 02:00 and 06:00 my time. Sort of worst case right there.

[Believer]

[unvote]

 

[v]Lenlo[/v]

[Believer]

Believer's repeated insistence today that he should be considered clear is really the thing that made me start to feel unsure about him.  I think if he's SK he took some unnecessary risks earlier in the game though.

That is giggle-worthy, I agree.

[Believer]

 

imho:

 

sks can be either more or less aggressive, but how they talk and how they approach problems is the same, but most of the time the clues aren't as obvious as i think. the people that are acting just downright strange, as far as i'm concerned, are probably all the time town. sks are too circumspect. uhm, the small discrepancies in an obviously motivated by being third party way are the people to look for.

 

=/

 

i think believer fits the bill.

 

but kat doesn't and lenlo doesn't. they've both done some weird things with respect to the discussion about the sk.  and shad doesn't fit that bill either, nor zander because they're mostly the same (plus sks don't claim vig in this game type so openly???), and cass seems pretty consistent like shad said.

 

not sure about celeste.

I need to chew this one over a bit, tone and content. Sili v Believer is tough here.

 

I want Believer to get more open and involved.

 

I don't see how it is, but to each their own.

 

Ask away, I'll answer whatever you might want to know.

[Believer]

the only catch is i fully expect him to omgus vote me regardless of his affiliation, and he might push me for other raisins as well, and i might be lynched if shad and zander and cass join in.

 

and none of that will be evidence against or for him, so i'll probably die very ingloriously.

You are never getting NK'd, you're too easy of a mislynch later.

 

Also I wouldn't think you'd be dying today either.

[Believer]

 

Okay so either Celeste is using the most despicable defence I've ever seen, or she really needs a sub.I'm not gonna assume the former of the two since I don't think she's that kind of person, but in either case we should move on.Next taker is probably Cass, any opinions?

You'd be wasting a lynch.

Come at me with why though and put your own opinions on record for when I flip.

 

One thing that's bugging me about you is imo since the Celeste case and Dice post you're mostly posting pokish questions and putting names forward for suspects, canvassing but not putting out all your opinions. Why?

 

I'm looking for reactions, that's the one thing I've been doing this entire game.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

the only catch is i fully expect him to omgus vote me regardless of his affiliation, and he might push me for other raisins as well, and i might be lynched if shad and zander and cass join in.

 

and none of that will be evidence against or for him, so i'll probably die very ingloriously.

You are never getting NK'd, you're too easy of a mislynch later.

 

Also I wouldn't think you'd be dying today either.

 

why'd you bring up the serial killer nk?

[Believer]

Okay, serious time.

 

Let's play a little elimination game.

 

Shander can't be the SK since they are now a glorified VT having used their shot.

 

Sili and Cass are unlikely to be the SK since they are voting me.

 

I can't be the SK since I'm not.

 

Celeste can't be the SK for subbing reasons.

 

 

That leaves Lenlo and Katiora. I'd eliminate Katiora from the inquiry based on towniness.

 

Lenlo is going to the chopping block.

[Believer]

 

 

the only catch is i fully expect him to omgus vote me regardless of his affiliation, and he might push me for other raisins as well, and i might be lynched if shad and zander and cass join in.

 

and none of that will be evidence against or for him, so i'll probably die very ingloriously.

You are never getting NK'd, you're too easy of a mislynch later.

 

Also I wouldn't think you'd be dying today either.

 

why'd you bring up the serial killer nk?

 

You said you'd die, I don't think it's likely that we lynch you today. What other option would you want me to present?