[Basic]Spirited Away Mafia - Game over mafia wins

[Sili Quirrels]

Sili has been constantly throwing the Z lynch in my face and rubbing it in when I already clearly feel terrible about it. Far past the point of me being wrong - which happens in an educated guessing game - but to the point where the only answer is that I'm a wolf or I am a terrible player.

 

No. Out of the two of us you're the only one who has insulted how the other plays. I merely called your reason for cfding laine bad, considering how you were townreading Laine before - to the extent it makes you look like a wolf.

 

Yes. You explained your pov. That you'd forgotten all the good stuff they did, which is fine. But don't pretend I'm insulting you please.

[Darthe]

 

Sili has been constantly throwing the Z lynch in my face and rubbing it in when I already clearly feel terrible about it. Far past the point of me being wrong - which happens in an educated guessing game - but to the point where the only answer is that I'm a wolf or I am a terrible player.

 

No. Out of the two of us you're the only one who has insulted how the other plays. I merely called your reason for cfding laine bad, considering how you were townreading Laine before - to the extent it makes you look like a wolf.

 

Yes. You explained your pov. That you'd forgotten all the good stuff they did, which is fine. But don't pretend I'm insulting you please.

Dude just roll, whats the point?

[Sili Quirrels]

i love how you're just assuming stuff.

 

 

 

Aren't you also just assuming stuff? You concluded he thought Zalanna was a bigger threat - that's an assumption, no?

 

That was my counter-position to the assumption there was no reason to lynch Z.

 

Overall, we are just assuming stuff. It's frivolous.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

Sili has been constantly throwing the Z lynch in my face and rubbing it in when I already clearly feel terrible about it. Far past the point of me being wrong - which happens in an educated guessing game - but to the point where the only answer is that I'm a wolf or I am a terrible player.

No. Out of the two of us you're the only one who has insulted how the other plays. I merely called your reason for cfding laine bad, considering how you were townreading Laine before - to the extent it makes you look like a wolf.

 

Yes. You explained your pov. That you'd forgotten all the good stuff they did, which is fine. But don't pretend I'm insulting you please.

Dude just roll, whats the point?

 

I don't like being insulted and misrepped.

[Cory Caboose]

Tried to do a multi-quote of BFG's posts post-lynch but DM ate it

I'll try again, but she talks to nobody that isn't me or Chris while catching up and addreses or questions literally nobody but me or Chris. She gives reads (or lack thereof) on Darthe, Kat, Sili and Seph when specifically asked for reads on them by Chris or me.

She doesn't volunteer any information that isn't asked for and only talks to me or Chris. Literally only.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

Sili has been constantly throwing the Z lynch in my face and rubbing it in when I already clearly feel terrible about it. Far past the point of me being wrong - which happens in an educated guessing game - but to the point where the only answer is that I'm a wolf or I am a terrible player.

No. Out of the two of us you're the only one who has insulted how the other plays. I merely called your reason for cfding laine bad, considering how you were townreading Laine before - to the extent it makes you look like a wolf.

 

Yes. You explained your pov. That you'd forgotten all the good stuff they did, which is fine. But don't pretend I'm insulting you please.

Dude just roll, whats the point?

I don't like being insulted and misrepped.

Welcome

[Cory Caboose]

Sili I have zero, zero interest in communicating with you so don't expect me to read or respond to anything you have to say further.

 

It's literally for the best for everyone, so you should understand.

[Sili Quirrels]

Tried to do a multi-quote of BFG's posts post-lynch but DM ate it

 

I'll try again, but she talks to nobody that isn't me or Chris while catching up and addreses or questions literally nobody but me or Chris. She gives reads (or lack thereof) on Darthe, Kat, Sili and Seph when specifically asked for reads on them by Chris or me.

 

She doesn't volunteer any information that isn't asked for and only talks to me or Chris. Literally only.

over what time-frame?

[Cory Caboose]

It's around an hour and about 22-25 posts.

[Cory Caboose]

Part 1:

 

 

 

 

 

Here for half an hour

 

 

Hi Cory <3

 

 

 

I did indeed do something like that once, and what happened changed my game permanently from then on

 

Would I do again with her, driving it myself? Absolutely never

 

Sorry if you feel otherwise because that just isn't me

 

There's also the fact that have you been reading my posts? 

This is part of it :/

 

 

 

 

You caught up?

 

If you aren't you might want to skip the me/Darthe stuff, nothing relevant happens there and it's not good and goes on for ~6 pages or so

 

The thread recovers afterwards

Me? Reading through

 

 

 

 

 

You caught up?

 

If you aren't you might want to skip the me/Darthe stuff, nothing relevant happens there and it's not good and goes on for ~6 pages or so

 

The thread recovers afterwards

 

If I end up failing at everything else this game, at least I did that right.

 

Much appreciated

 

 

 

 

 

Here for half an hour

 

Hi you.

 

I'm keeping the finger.

 

Happy to hear that :)

 

 

 

Ok, regarding the 'didn't believe it' thing

 

Page 30 is interesting in as much as I 'understand' and mostly 'agree' with everything Chris says, I just don't know if I believe it

 

It's all small stuff, but Lenlo points out and disagrees with early reads every game, the bigger point that Lenlo didn't really say anything in his catch up post is true, but :pulls face:

 

I need the bigger picture to read Chris though

I know I agreed with you about Lenlo very soon afterwards, which is what I meant by regardless of how quickly I dropped it, but when I was looking back it was one of the few things I felt bad about you early on (and in fact pretty much until the night I died), even if I couldn't/didn't quantify it. It's not too dissimilar to how I felt about what I saw of your your Celeste push in Mario Karts.

 

I also know you push people as town, I've played with you before do I think you're less likely to need to control the lynch as town than mafia, yes - how well this bears up I don't know

 

 

 

Because we've recently had conversations about 'what' constitutes you being the 'best' as either alignment. Am I wrong?

 

 

 

 

How did they become a lead train in whole? Consider the others that jumped in. Why did that happen?

 

AJ voted the train first as a counter to BFG in a very reasonable way

Me and the masons voted next, putting the slot at 4 pretty quickly, but it was me and two confirmed villagers so it wasn't JARRING

 

some other people voted near the end - bfg, seph off the top of my head - that I haven't GONE through because I'M SITTING HERE ARGUING WITH YOU

 

Does the fact that mine was self pres need to be said? I also didn't see SiRReNs vote when I voted

 

 

 

 

I don't think it's really self-pres when it's 10+ to EOD, your wagon has stalled completely and there's discussion on whether or not to hammer the Zander/Laine wagon

I think you had two votes on you at the time?

I think it was 3 2

 

 

 

/shrug there's not a lot I can say about the self pres thing. I thought it was 3 2 that's sort of it

 

 

 

[Cory Caboose]

Part 2:
 

 

 

 

[v]Zalanna[/v]

 
15 minutes to EoD. put it at L-2. Even if you didn't see SiRReN's vote you had plenty of time to unvote.

 

???

Pretty much as soon as I voted you and Regy unvoted? I wasn't magically going to come up with a better answer

 

 
 

 

If you are a villager I'm sorry
I just don't believe you :(

I'm getting that impression

Tomorrow is probably going to be long :/

 

 
 

 

 

Because we've recently had conversations about 'what' constitutes you being the 'best' as either alignment. Am I wrong?

 
Wrong that we've had the conversations?  No.
 
Wrong about controlling the lynch?  I don't know - it depends on what I'm wanting to happen/how okay I am with what's happening.  If I need to force a mislynch myself as scum, I'll do it.  I'll sit back and watch if that's what suits me better.  
 
And it's not like I'm going to demand people listen to me as either, because I don't care enough as town and I'm smart enough as scum to know how to replicate a meta.
 
Though I don't know what exactly you're trying to say.

 

Ok, as mafia recently you have been more aggressive with your vote (Celeste, Lenlo, Dice), as town you can also be aggressive with your vote.

I think you're more likely to do something different as town

 

 
 

 

 

 

If you are a villager I'm sorry
I just don't believe you :(

I'm getting that impression

Tomorrow is probably going to be long :/

 

 
If you've got a little bit of time, can you talk to me about where you're at IRT to Darthe, Sili, me, and maybe Kat?

 

If I had reads I felt were worth anything I'd have shared them already

You I've covered, I won't be able to say anything definitively until I've ISOd you or reread the game or something

I don't understand Darthe as a player well enough to know how genuine he/Cory was earlier and that's overshadowing most of the rest. His posts yesterday felt disjointed, but he said he hadn't read the thread, so in that context they make 'sense', I just don't know how to evaluate them.

Sili is probably town

Kat is null pending research

 

 
 

 

BFG how do you feel about Seph

No clue

 

 
 

To an extent Regy's right, my current thread 'understanding' is a 'copout', but I won't pretend to reads I don't have.

 

 

[Cory Caboose]

I find it really hard to believe that in the process of catching up BFG didn't have a single question to ask any other player. 

 

She's incredibly focused on how I and Clov view her slot.

[Sili Quirrels]

wonder if bfg would normally give reads, which 'weren't worth anything'.

 

we can say that bfg more or less ignored darthe and I at a time when we were discussing cory. we can probably also say she almost-only paid attention to the things that were about her.

[Sili Quirrels]

I find it really hard to believe that in the process of catching up BFG didn't have a single question to ask any other player. 

 

She's incredibly focused on how I and Clov view her slot.

Doesn't sound like she's catching up in Part 1, merely responding to allegations and such.

 

Part two sounds the same.

[Regy Rusty]

BFG responded to me one time which was just enough to get me to unvote

[Sili Quirrels]

BFG responded to me one time which was just enough to get me to unvote

1 cent.

[Regy Rusty]

To be totally honest I was too eager for a reason not to lynch BFG

 

It's always been a fault of mine to be reluctant to lynch players I want to play with early, so I was basically looking for any reason to give her another chance. I think she knew this and did just enough to give me one.

 

In retrospect I should've known better, and that's on me.

[Darthe]

To be totally honest I was too eager for a reason not to lynch BFG

 

It's always been a fault of mine to be reluctant to lynch players I want to play with early, so I was basically looking for any reason to give her another chance. I think she knew this and did just enough to give me one.

 

In retrospect I should've known better, and that's on me.

Well now I'm insulted

[Regy Rusty]

Good >D

[Sili Quirrels]

if bfg's a wolf, i'm raising an eyebrow at clov cause i thought he knew her well, orwell.

[Regy Rusty]

But seriously, BFG literally is the one who invited me to come play this game with her 

[Clovdyx]

if bfg's a wolf, i'm raising an eyebrow at clov cause i thought he knew her well, orwell.

 

I do know her well.  I might know her better than everybody else in the game.

[Clovdyx]

I want it on record I may have gone at least 2/3 on mafia reads by literally pulling names out of a hat.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

if bfg's a wolf, i'm raising an eyebrow at clov cause i thought he knew her well, orwell.

 

I do know her well.  I might know her better than everybody else in the game.

 

you were the one who convinced me she was more likely to be town.

[Clovdyx]

 

 

if bfg's a wolf, i'm raising an eyebrow at clov cause i thought he knew her well, orwell.

 

I do know her well.  I might know her better than everybody else in the game.

 

you were the one who convinced me she was more likely to be town.

 

 

Okay?