[Basic] I <3 the 90's Mafia: Music Edition - TOWN WINS!

[Zander?]

  On 6/7/2016 at 5:57 PM, Hallia said:

I'm also confused that Laine was surprised I didn't just tell them to stfu. Like, when has that ever been something I would do?

 

I dont recall if thats what she said exactly but if so, a lot if this.

[wish-tree]

  On 6/7/2016 at 7:59 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

wait did she just do a q and a analsis about that on page 57???

 

 

uh

 

I have not been able to engage in this game, can't be arsed, have little pockets of time

[Sili Quirrels]

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:14 PM, wish-tree said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 7:59 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

wait did she just do a q and a analsis about that on page 57???

 

 

uh

 

I have not been able to engage in this game, can't be arsed, have little pockets of time

 

so it was a way to contribute to this game without having to contribute meaningful dialogue?

[Zander?]

  On 6/7/2016 at 5:59 PM, Hallia said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 5:56 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 5:24 AM, Clovdyx said:

I still don't feel better about Lenlo than I did before, though. His defense against Sili basically boils down to the fact that Lenlo didn't say anybody was scummy, verbatim. He's not wrong...but I don't see why Sili SHOULDN'T have read into Lenlo's post that way. Saying somebody 'seems off' has a certain connotation to it. It's no different than saying somebody 'sounds good'.

 

So again, if Lenlo honestly WASN'T trying to imply a...lack of towniness?... he made that catch up post to contribute nothing.

 

And the entire time he was going back and forth with Sili over the same points, he still didn't really give any opinions that MATTER. Even when he was saying Sili seemed like an over-committed wolf, Lenlo still treated him like he knew Sili was town.

 

 

  On 6/6/2016 at 4:32 PM, Lenlo said:

Like, im trying to understand where your coming from and your reasons. But all your doing is hardlining against me and refusing me at almost every turn. Its not the attitude id expect of someone trying to solve the game, but rather someone who had over committed to a wolf read and knows theres no backing out now. Rather then discussing it and your other reads with me your shutting it down and saying "piss off wolf".

 

Cmon dude. Not talking aint gonna resolve/solve anything.

  On 6/6/2016 at 4:35 PM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 6/6/2016 at 4:33 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

 

  On 6/6/2016 at 4:32 PM, Lenlo said:

Like, im trying to understand where your coming from and your reasons. But all your doing is hardlining against me and refusing me at almost every turn. Its not the attitude id expect of someone trying to solve the game, but rather someone who had over committed to a wolf read and knows theres no backing out now. Rather then discussing it and your other reads with me your shutting it down and saying "piss off wolf".

 

Cmon dude. Not talking aint gonna resolve/solve anything.

I don't want to be stuck here for another 3 hours trying to communicate with a wolf when the wolf is intent on not understanding anything.

Quit it with the narrative. Im trying to move away from our argument because we both know the other wont budge. Fine.

 

So help me figure out everyone else. If im really a wolf, talking about other people will help you ferret them out. If im town it will give you more to go on in the future. Your not getting a lynch with just you so until other people weigh in and add something new, talk about other reads.

How do you make the red statement and the blue statements to/about the same person?

This feels like grasping to make something fit/work Chris.

 

IMO- The red states he ISNT doing it and the blue reads hes trying to get him to/

 

Am I missing something?

I disagree or at least think you might be missing something. It comes off to me like he's frustrated but still trying to work with him.

 

 

Thats what I said too but Chris seems to think differently unless im missing something.

[Sili Quirrels]

that interpretation makes sense, right?

 

hm.

[Zander?]

  On 6/7/2016 at 6:36 PM, Thane Vakarian said:

I'm only posting here now to let you know that Key will be looking for a replacement for me. I won't manage to keep up with the game, the way things are going.

 

My apologies to all

 

have a few drinks on me, ok?

 

sadface.gif

 

glgl brother!!!!

[wish-tree]

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:16 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:14 PM, wish-tree said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 7:59 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

wait did she just do a q and a analsis about that on page 57???

 

 

uh

 

I have not been able to engage in this game, can't be arsed, have little pockets of time

 

so it was a way to contribute to this game without having to contribute meaningful dialogue?

 

no

 

I'm slowly catching up to this game by springboarding off my own posts

 

I don't think it was meaningless, I'm kind of talking to myself atm, but I don't think that's a bad thing

[Clovdyx]

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:10 PM, Zander said:

 

Maybe a few tweaks but man I dont hate this list.

 

 

I don't disagree, actually.  My only real issue is it's almost TOO close to where I'm at.  The lack of original thoughts isn't a great sign....but given that she seems to be struggling to keep up, maybe a bit of sheeping is to be expected?

[wish-tree]

so ya I'm behind and it isn't great 

 

usually don't struggle like this but I haven't multitabled games in a really long time

[BFG]

Ok, thanks Sili

[Sili Quirrels]

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:18 PM, wish-tree said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:16 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:14 PM, wish-tree said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 7:59 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

wait did she just do a q and a analsis about that on page 57???

 

 

uh

 

I have not been able to engage in this game, can't be arsed, have little pockets of time

 

so it was a way to contribute to this game without having to contribute meaningful dialogue?

 

no

 

I'm slowly catching up to this game by springboarding off my own posts

 

I don't think it was meaningless, I'm kind of talking to myself atm, but I don't think that's a bad thing

 

oh so it was a way to engage yourself.

 

...

 

if you need to engage yourself using trivia...

 

well, tbh, i don't find many villagers who do that. =/

[Clovdyx]

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:05 PM, Clovdyx said:

I didn't even look at it, to be honest.  I thought the survey was pointless and couldn't care less about people's answers to it.  So I really didn't care about her analysis - I'd rather she some analysis of actual game content, rather than intro posts and questions to a two day old discussion that I'm pretty sure we've beaten to death by this point.

 

Your catch actually isn't a bad one, though - I'll give you that.  Interested to see what she says about it.

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:18 PM, Clovdyx said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:10 PM, Zander said:

 

Maybe a few tweaks but man I dont hate this list.

 

 

I don't disagree, actually.  My only real issue is it's almost TOO close to where I'm at.  The lack of original thoughts isn't a great sign....but given that she seems to be struggling to keep up, maybe a bit of sheeping is to be expected?

 

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:12 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 5:57 PM, Hallia said:

I'm also confused that Laine was surprised I didn't just tell them to stfu. Like, when has that ever been something I would do?

 

I dont recall if thats what she said exactly but if so, a lot if this.

 

 

....Zander trending up?

[wish-tree]

mostly also because I was expecting stork to pull his own weight, but eh w/e

[Zander?]

  On 6/7/2016 at 6:44 PM, LilyElizabeth said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 12:07 PM, Lizabeth said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 4:28 AM, LilyElizabeth said:

I got caught up for tonight. Nice to meet you Liz. You make a good first impression. I'm getting a townie vibe from all the questions you are asking. 

 

Tomorrow is busy, so I may or may not be able to keep up, depending on how much y'all post. 'Night

Hi Lily. Nice to meet you too.

 

I haven't really read a lot of your posts yet (you're one of the people I have to iso) - curious about your thoughts on Zander, Wishtree, Niniel, Dice, Darthe, and Lenlo (specifically) or anyone else (generally)

 

 

Sure.

 

Zander - He's a hard one for me to read. Gun to head - my gut says scum, but I'm not sure why. 

Wishtree - My gut has a good feel for her, but others are concerned about her, which is making me question my feel.

Nini - Leaning scum

Dice may be the hardest player on DM for me to read. No clue there

Darthe - He and I have trouble reading each other, but I'm leaning town right now.

Lenlo - Didn't really read his exchange with Sili thoroughly. Don't remember his other content. 

 

 

Id love for you to explain some of these....

 

But lets go with...what about Darthe AT ALL makes you think he's Town?

 

So you think Nina started to Bus me???

 

So what is your read on Lenlo?

[Sili Quirrels]

i do know villagers who sometimes aren't engaged in a given game though.

[wish-tree]

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:20 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:18 PM, wish-tree said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:16 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:14 PM, wish-tree said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 7:59 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

wait did she just do a q and a analsis about that on page 57???

 

 

uh

 

I have not been able to engage in this game, can't be arsed, have little pockets of time

 

so it was a way to contribute to this game without having to contribute meaningful dialogue?

 

no

 

I'm slowly catching up to this game by springboarding off my own posts

 

I don't think it was meaningless, I'm kind of talking to myself atm, but I don't think that's a bad thing

 

oh so it was a way to engage yourself.

 

...

 

if you need to engage yourself using trivia...

 

well, tbh, i don't find many villagers who do that. =/

 

It wasn't trivia, it's analysis of post structure and tonal stuff 

 

That's how I play, you can check with other people who know my meta if need be

[Clovdyx]

Zander, what's your read on me right now?

[Sili Quirrels]

hm...

 

it's a good thing your tone is always so good wish. good attribute.

[wish-tree]

If you have a problem with what I'm doing, don't be shy about it :P

[Clovdyx]

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:20 PM, wish-tree said:

mostly also because I was expecting stork to pull his own weight, but eh w/e

 

Lover's quarrel ITT?

 

[wish-tree]

I'm trying to get stork to pull his own weight, but yeah, we're both busy, and I got pulled in last minute for the other game I have been talking about but wasn't talking about because I can't and etc rules

[Clovdyx]

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:23 PM, wish-tree said:

If you have a problem with what I'm doing, don't be shy about it :P

 

Do you have any reads that aren't exclusively based on something from 1100 posts ago most people probably weren't taking seirously?

[wish-tree]

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:24 PM, Clovdyx said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:20 PM, wish-tree said:

mostly also because I was expecting stork to pull his own weight, but eh w/e

 

Lover's quarrel ITT?

 

 

erm

 

we haven't really talked about this game yet, which is kinda meh

[Zander?]

  On 6/7/2016 at 7:28 PM, Clovdyx said:

The TL;DR, single sentence explanation would be the things you're pushing don't seem like the kind of things you would be pushing if you were town.

 

Off the top of my head:

 

1-your question to BFG about the Seph/Alanna comment.  I don't see anything wrong with what she said, and your question about her inclusion doesn't make sense.  If BFG's town, the answer is going to be "I don't need to make a read on my alignment".  On the other hand, if she's mafia she's going to say, "I don't need to make a read on my alignment."  Yet you hammered it away like it was ever going to be productive.

2-your portrayal of the Seph thing.  Now, based on what he said, maybe I took it to mean something different than what he said, but you've been treating it like he claimed scum.  I read it and thought it basically translated to this.

 

3"I have Sili as my scummiest player in my notes.  But I'm re-reading again.  And ya know, I think he's actually more likely to be town, even if what he's said sounds bad."

 

Not only is that kind of progression objectively good play, regardless of his alignment, it's pretty damn town.

 

4. -The Lenore meta thing.  I don't expect you to sit there and get pushed for things that are null.  I'm pretty sure I said you were right to correct her.  But as a heavy meta player, it doesn't make sense to me that you were basically attacking her for using what she would reasonably assume is your scum meta to scum read you.

 

"Eh, you're kinda right. I do those as mafia, but I do them a lot as town too." Reasonable response

"WTF WHY ARE YOU USING THOSE AGAINST ME.  YOU'VE ONLY SEEN ME DO THEM AS MAFIA, BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO PUSH" Not a reasonable response.

 

And yeah, that's exaggerating it a bit, but I thought you took it well because what I would EXPECT you to.

 

1. I didnt like the fact she was the one who mentioned it because it would clear her as well.

 

2. Can you show me where I said or implied this from that?

 

3. Again I said he contradicted himself, he later himself admits this.

 

4, Pushing back againt someone for using completely Null tells is unreasonable....???

[wish-tree]

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:26 PM, Clovdyx said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:23 PM, wish-tree said:

If you have a problem with what I'm doing, don't be shy about it :P

 

Do you have any reads that aren't exclusively based on something from 1100 posts ago most people probably weren't taking seirously?

 

Yeah, without doing any analysis or quoting anything, I'm liking Katiora's really wordy posts recently. 

 

I think that her suspicion of Zander is good, and do like that she's been asking people about me/stork because we really haven't been present or engaged.

 

Lenlo is going sorta ham on Sili, again, not a meta reason, but the frustration he's getting from just fighting with him seems to be genuine. I don't think that it was staged at all, so at best they're never scum together. 

 

I think you are not bad either, I liked the meta thing you pointed out about Zander earlier, but also like that you're still questioning where I'm coming from. Doubt and caution, probably a good look.