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BFG Spam Master

BFG

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  On 6/11/2016 at 8:46 PM, Lizabeth said:

 

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What didn't you understand about my approach towards Seph or Dice?

 

I was poking Dice from early day 1, and I clearly outlined the reasons that Seph was my top mafia read, and I said that Dice, Darthe and Lenlo were my top mafia suspects on D1 as well.

 

If Seph was your strongest mafia read from early game, I don't understand why you didn't do more to push him from earlier on. If he wasn't I don't know why you didn't do more to address him and try to resolve issues (before your case which was made and given when there was no time for him to address any of it before end of day).

 

Pretty sure the reason you gave at the time to vote Dice was competing trains and something about Chris's link with Niniel. And same answer to Lily, I currently have very little thread recall from about Wednesday to Friday last week.

 

 

 

Chris is because although I won't stop tinfoiling, he isn't mafia with Lenlo and I feel significantly worse about Lenlo (ironically Chris disagrees). Besides, the vote switch makes no sense to me as either alignment. As town, I don't see him having so little conviction in his read, as mafia I don't see why he would make himself look that bad on purpose.

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Lizabeth Community Regular

Lizabeth

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  On 6/11/2016 at 8:09 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

I dont think it is. Cant be sure.

 

  On 6/11/2016 at 8:24 PM, LilyElizabeth said:

 

  On 6/11/2016 at 7:59 PM, Lizabeth said:

 

  On 6/11/2016 at 7:32 PM, LilyElizabeth said:

Liz, have you done a reads list lately? If not, would you mind doing one?

I don't do reads lists. I know this is going to sounds snarky, and I don't intend it to, and you don't know me so I'll give you the short version:

 

I don't do reads lists because a) I find them tedious b) when I shift my views as I read along in the thread it's annoying to have people claim I'm being inconsistent for it c) I don't like laying out everything I think about everyone in a game before I think it's advantageous (I often like to test my theories first before letting someone I suspect fully know what my suspicions are)

 

Anyone who read through the Mafia Karts game knows that this is the case, because Zander kept harping on me about it and I fully explained the reasons why there (probably more eloquently than here) 

 

I will say, however, that based on my current point in catch up (I'm just starting on N1) my strongest town reads are Sili and Hallia. Hallia for obvious reasons. Sili almost makes me want to tinfoil him for being so reasonable this game (I didn't see the fight between him and Hallia though), but his random comment about trying hard to be nice this game makes me feel like he's being not only self aware but genuine. And he seems to be genuinely questioning and acting from a perspective that seems to have town's best interests at heart. And everyone who knows him keeps saying that scum Sili doesn't put this much effort in. So right now I'm willing to trust him.

 

k, back to catching up

 

 

I can respect that. Thanks for the town reads. 

 

 

You can add BFG to the list. It feels good :)

wish-tree Rising Star

wish-tree

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  On 6/11/2016 at 9:08 PM, BFG said:

 

  On 6/11/2016 at 8:58 PM, wish-tree said:

BFG, are you named after the Roald Dahl book?

Naturally :)

 

ahaha I watched the trailers with my sister, so I was reminded of that

Lizabeth Community Regular

Lizabeth

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  On 6/11/2016 at 8:31 PM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 6/11/2016 at 8:05 PM, Lizabeth said:

 

  On 6/11/2016 at 6:09 AM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 6/11/2016 at 4:20 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

Ive been so so nice for the longest time. Im the brst

Do it. Bet ya wont.

 

  On 6/11/2016 at 5:24 AM, BFG said:

Lenlo, why do you not appear to care about pushing your suspects this game?

Because im naturally flippant?

 

Also because my suspects were going along fine without the need to interject myself. No need to throw a wrench just for the sake of throwing a wrench if its going the way I want. Dice and Nin were sketch, Nin claimed, so go Dice. Nin was sketch for aforementioned reasons, Dice was blatantly lying in ways that made me and Chris out as wolves.

 

 

But now that Dice has flipped, we know he wasn't lying. He was mistaken. So why are you sticking to the narrative that he was lying?

 

Because its not a narrative, so dont call it one? Thats a word with negative connotations in mafia, that your using on purpose.

 

Mistaken or not, on purpose or not, he was lying. That is a fact.

 

You're right, I did use it on purpose. Because I'm questioning why you would say that someone you know know is a fellow townie is lying?

 

Mistaken is not lying. Mistaken is mistaken. Vocabulary matters. As you pointed out by getting all upset about me calling your description a narrative :wink:

Lizabeth Community Regular

Lizabeth

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  On 6/11/2016 at 8:32 PM, Lenlo said:

Do you think town dont lie? Cause boy do I have to players to introduce you to.

I lie all the time as town :)

 

But you just said that he was lying whether it was intentional or not.

Lizabeth Community Regular

Lizabeth

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  On 6/11/2016 at 8:48 PM, Clovdyx said:

Liz - 

 

1) Who do you want to lynch today?

2) Why do you feel good about my EoD actions?  

3) Did you ever go back and find that post of mine I asked you about before?

 

1. I'll let you know when I know :wink:

2. You know I love you, right? But you had a diva fit and the diva fit felt genuine. And when I read it all in context, I could understand what your thought process was and what you were trying to accomplish.

3) Nope. You want to link me to it now?

Lizabeth Community Regular

Lizabeth

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  On 6/11/2016 at 8:59 PM, Clovdyx said:

BFG - I'm going to say this one time, and one time alone, because I get why you (and Zander, for that matter) weren't thrilled about my garbage reasons.  I wasn't either, and I said as much - there's a reason they're called garbage reasons FOR a reason.  But at the end of the day, I'm human, and I'm influenced by things beyond the flow of the thread...even when I try not to be.  

 

I've played three games with Liz.  She actually plays less frequently than I do.  One turbo on MU, Mafia Karts here, and a game on PerC.  I've randed mafia in all three, and she's been town in all three.  She was also killed very quickly in all three of them.  That didn't matter much in the PerC game because I died D1 anyways, but I digress.  

 

The reason I signed up for them is to play with her.  And in three tries, I haven't gotten the opportunity to work with her a single time.  Actually being town this game possibly gave me a chance to do that.  I wasn't confident it was incredibly likely at that point, but I also didn't have anything to completely rule it out, so I wasn't in a huge hurry to get rid of her.  If she's town and I lynch her, I'm basically removing one of TWO players (I don't think I need to tell you who the other is) from the game that I actually signed up to be in a game with and hurting my team.  If she's mafia, I obviously help my team, but I can try to find her teammates and still get a chance to PLAY with her.

 

 

The fact we're where we are and I don't have any reason to feel better about her is probably all I need to know about her alignment.  And if that's the case, you're probably 'objectively' right to think I should have pushed her sooner.  Sorry for trying to actually enjoy myself in a game for once - I won't do it again.

:wub: to the first part (as long as it's not a blatant attempt to pocket me)

 

for the second (assuming it wasn't a blatant attempt to pocket me), don't worry. I'm back now :happy:

Lenlo Spam Master

Lenlo

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  On 6/11/2016 at 9:05 PM, Lizabeth said:

 

  On 6/11/2016 at 6:03 PM, Lenlo said:

So, people had Clov/Darthe as a team right? Does Darthe flipping town throw any sort of wrench into that?

 

With 2 kills either 

A) Town has a Vig and they shot Darthe, simply because shooting Nin isnt a towny shot

B) Wolves have a Vig, unlikely if they also have an RB.

C) SK.

 

The two more likely ones are A and C imo. The question is, if town has a Vig why would they not shoot me? Im clearly being wolf read by alot of people so odds of the vig being one of them would be pretty high. So why shoot Darthe over me? This leads me to believe its actually an SK that either got blocked or holstered N1.

 

With that im really sketch of Sili, he has third party equity imo.

People were reading you as town based on your D2...why would you think a vig would kill you?

 

Afew people were reading me town D2. Very clearly, a number of people were not yesterday, were not after the Dice flip and are not today.

 

  On 6/11/2016 at 9:14 PM, Lizabeth said:

 

  On 6/11/2016 at 8:31 PM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 6/11/2016 at 8:05 PM, Lizabeth said:

 

  On 6/11/2016 at 6:09 AM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 6/11/2016 at 4:20 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

Ive been so so nice for the longest time. Im the brst

Do it. Bet ya wont.

 

  On 6/11/2016 at 5:24 AM, BFG said:

Lenlo, why do you not appear to care about pushing your suspects this game?

Because im naturally flippant?

 

Also because my suspects were going along fine without the need to interject myself. No need to throw a wrench just for the sake of throwing a wrench if its going the way I want. Dice and Nin were sketch, Nin claimed, so go Dice. Nin was sketch for aforementioned reasons, Dice was blatantly lying in ways that made me and Chris out as wolves.

 

 

But now that Dice has flipped, we know he wasn't lying. He was mistaken. So why are you sticking to the narrative that he was lying?

 

Because its not a narrative, so dont call it one? Thats a word with negative connotations in mafia, that your using on purpose.

 

Mistaken or not, on purpose or not, he was lying. That is a fact.

 

You're right, I did use it on purpose. Because I'm questioning why you would say that someone you know know is a fellow townie is lying?

 

Mistaken is not lying. Mistaken is mistaken. Vocabulary matters. As you pointed out by getting all upset about me calling your description a narrative :wink:

 

Mistaken is when you misread something. Misquote something. Lying is when someone points out that your mistaken multiple times, gives you proof, other people also tell you your wrong, and you keep on going with it. It was lying. Thats it. I will not debate this anymore.

BFG Spam Master

BFG

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  On 6/11/2016 at 8:59 PM, Clovdyx said:

BFG - I'm going to say this one time, and one time alone, because I get why you (and Zander, for that matter) weren't thrilled about my garbage reasons.  I wasn't either, and I said as much - there's a reason they're called garbage reasons FOR a reason.  But at the end of the day, I'm human, and I'm influenced by things beyond the flow of the thread...even when I try not to be.  

 

I've played three games with Liz.  She actually plays less frequently than I do.  One turbo on MU, Mafia Karts here, and a game on PerC.  I've randed mafia in all three, and she's been town in all three.  She was also killed very quickly in all three of them.  That didn't matter much in the PerC game because I died D1 anyways, but I digress.  

 

The reason I signed up for them is to play with her.  And in three tries, I haven't gotten the opportunity to work with her a single time.  Actually being town this game possibly gave me a chance to do that.  I wasn't confident it was incredibly likely at that point, but I also didn't have anything to completely rule it out, so I wasn't in a huge hurry to get rid of her.  If she's town and I lynch her, I'm basically removing one of TWO players (I don't think I need to tell you who the other is) from the game that I actually signed up to be in a game with and hurting my team.  If she's mafia, I obviously help my team, but I can try to find her teammates and still get a chance to PLAY with her.

 

 

The fact we're where we are and I don't have any reason to feel better about her is probably all I need to know about her alignment.  And if that's the case, you're probably 'objectively' right to think I should have pushed her sooner.  Sorry for trying to actually enjoy myself in a game for once - I won't do it again.

Chris plz :(

 

If this is already in thread, I'm sorry I haven't got there yet and it's in one of the many posts I skimmed or missed. Unusually for me I'm not tinfoiling on you much (although that makes me want to more) and I think that's pretty obvious from my reads.

 

But I'm not going to feel bad for pointing out possible connections although actually I probably will

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Clovdyx

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  On 6/11/2016 at 9:05 PM, Lizabeth said:

 

  On 6/11/2016 at 6:03 PM, Lenlo said:

So, people had Clov/Darthe as a team right? Does Darthe flipping town throw any sort of wrench into that?

 

With 2 kills either 

A) Town has a Vig and they shot Darthe, simply because shooting Nin isnt a towny shot

B) Wolves have a Vig, unlikely if they also have an RB.

C) SK.

 

The two more likely ones are A and C imo. The question is, if town has a Vig why would they not shoot me? Im clearly being wolf read by alot of people so odds of the vig being one of them would be pretty high. So why shoot Darthe over me? This leads me to believe its actually an SK that either got blocked or holstered N1.

 

With that im really sketch of Sili, he has third party equity imo.

People were reading you as town based on your D2...why would you think a vig would kill you?

 

 

Who are these 'people'?  I'm pretty sure I was the only person actively supporting that read.  

 

 
  On 6/11/2016 at 9:09 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Afaik right now chris and lenlo merely means chris bussed day 1.

Doesnt mean a lot to me personally.

 

 

I know where your read from Lenlo is coming from.  I disagree with it at this point, fully supported it D1.  What's your argument from me, other than not reading Lenlo the same way you are?

 
  On 6/11/2016 at 9:03 PM, wish-tree said:

 

  On 6/11/2016 at 8:59 PM, Clovdyx said:

BFG - I'm going to say this one time, and one time alone, because I get why you (and Zander, for that matter) weren't thrilled about my garbage reasons.  I wasn't either, and I said as much - there's a reason they're called garbage reasons FOR a reason.  But at the end of the day, I'm human, and I'm influenced by things beyond the flow of the thread...even when I try not to be.  

 

I've played three games with Liz.  She actually plays less frequently than I do.  One turbo on MU, Mafia Karts here, and a game on PerC.  I've randed mafia in all three, and she's been town in all three.  She was also killed very quickly in all three of them.  That didn't matter much in the PerC game because I died D1 anyways, but I digress.  

 

The reason I signed up for them is to play with her.  And in three tries, I haven't gotten the opportunity to work with her a single time.  Actually being town this game possibly gave me a chance to do that.  I wasn't confident it was incredibly likely at that point, but I also didn't have anything to completely rule it out, so I wasn't in a huge hurry to get rid of her.  If she's town and I lynch her, I'm basically removing one of TWO players (I don't think I need to tell you who the other is) from the game that I actually signed up to be in a game with and hurting my team.  If she's mafia, I obviously help my team, but I can try to find her teammates and still get a chance to PLAY with her.

 

 

The fact we're where we are and I don't have any reason to feel better about her is probably all I need to know about her alignment.  And if that's the case, you're probably 'objectively' right to think I should have pushed her sooner.  Sorry for trying to actually enjoy myself in a game for once - I won't do it again.

Oh, okay, that makes a little more sense, then. 

 

uhhh 

 

sorry >.<

 

umm, how much should this factor into a read? Like, this is out of game stuff, and it's kind of... eh

 

 

If that's the best thing you have to clear me for, you probably should have voted me hours ago.

Lizabeth Community Regular

Lizabeth

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  On 6/11/2016 at 9:04 PM, wish-tree said:

 

  On 6/11/2016 at 9:02 PM, Lizabeth said:

 

  On 6/11/2016 at 5:34 PM, wish-tree said:

 

  On 6/11/2016 at 12:32 PM, BFG said:

Wish can I get your thoughts on Liz?

 

She needs to be around more, I'm looking at possible connections between her and Chris. She doesn't seem to care as much about this game, and the few posts that she's made seem kind of emotionally distraught, and idk how to really read that. >.<

 

uhhhh

 

the stuff she's said about my meta is all true for her (irt not understanding my thought process as town but understanding my thought process as mafia), but Liz usually town reads me as default and only rescinds that if she thinks I'm being really weird. 

 

Ummm...no. I'm not trying to be mean here, but the opposite is true (for the bolded). First of all, I don't town read you by default and I've never said it, and it annoys me when you try to project thoughts into my head. Actually pay attention to the words that I say.

 

Secondly, if I'm going to rescind a town read on you it's because I think you're not being weird. As you just said, you concern me more when you actually start making sense to me in a game. I would be worried about me saying this now influencing your play, but you were being your weird town!Lenny self for the first 42 pages of the game before I even got here to comment on it, and me telling you this multiple times over hasn't done anything to alter your town play as far as I know so I doubt it's going to make a difference now.

 

 

 

 

Lol.... I guess maybe what you mean by me being weird is me being normal, which is weird for me? Nah, I don't think you could ever influence my play, probably, unless you were to completely own my soul if you were mafia. 

 

 

Yes....basically. And given that the one time we played together I was mafia and you were town and you STILL managed to drive me crazy, I don't think I'll be making any plans for selling your soul to the highest bidder anytime soon :P

Clovdyx Spam Master

Clovdyx

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  On 6/11/2016 at 9:21 PM, BFG said:

 

  On 6/11/2016 at 8:59 PM, Clovdyx said:

BFG - I'm going to say this one time, and one time alone, because I get why you (and Zander, for that matter) weren't thrilled about my garbage reasons.  I wasn't either, and I said as much - there's a reason they're called garbage reasons FOR a reason.  But at the end of the day, I'm human, and I'm influenced by things beyond the flow of the thread...even when I try not to be.  

 

I've played three games with Liz.  She actually plays less frequently than I do.  One turbo on MU, Mafia Karts here, and a game on PerC.  I've randed mafia in all three, and she's been town in all three.  She was also killed very quickly in all three of them.  That didn't matter much in the PerC game because I died D1 anyways, but I digress.  

 

The reason I signed up for them is to play with her.  And in three tries, I haven't gotten the opportunity to work with her a single time.  Actually being town this game possibly gave me a chance to do that.  I wasn't confident it was incredibly likely at that point, but I also didn't have anything to completely rule it out, so I wasn't in a huge hurry to get rid of her.  If she's town and I lynch her, I'm basically removing one of TWO players (I don't think I need to tell you who the other is) from the game that I actually signed up to be in a game with and hurting my team.  If she's mafia, I obviously help my team, but I can try to find her teammates and still get a chance to PLAY with her.

 

 

The fact we're where we are and I don't have any reason to feel better about her is probably all I need to know about her alignment.  And if that's the case, you're probably 'objectively' right to think I should have pushed her sooner.  Sorry for trying to actually enjoy myself in a game for once - I won't do it again.

Chris plz :(

 

If this is already in thread, I'm sorry I haven't got there yet and it's in one of the many posts I skimmed or missed. Unusually for me I'm not tinfoiling on you much (although that makes me want to more) and I think that's pretty obvious from my reads.

 

But I'm not going to feel bad for pointing out possible connections although actually I probably will

 

 

And you shouldn't.  I think you know me well enough to know I don't CARE if people look at me.  If you're town, you're doing your job by looking for connections.  If you think that was intended to make you feel bad for trying to solve and reaching what isn't a terrible conclusion, then you're mistaken, and I apologize.

 

But it's my job to explain my thoughts, my actions, and the reasons for them.  

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BFG

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  On 6/11/2016 at 9:09 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Afaik right now chris and lenlo merely means chris bussed day 1.

 

Doesnt mean a lot to me personally.

Why do you think Chris is mafia?

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Lenlo

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  On 6/11/2016 at 9:25 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

[v]lenlo[/v]

 

Just saw his response about dice.

 

I think thats a really weak answer and confirms my suspicion.

Really? What did my response confirm?

 

It is a fact that he lied. Even after it was proven to him he was wrong, he kept saying and pushing it.

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Lizabeth

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  On 6/11/2016 at 9:07 PM, BFG said:

 

  On 6/11/2016 at 8:46 PM, Lizabeth said:

 

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What didn't you understand about my approach towards Seph or Dice?

 

I was poking Dice from early day 1, and I clearly outlined the reasons that Seph was my top mafia read, and I said that Dice, Darthe and Lenlo were my top mafia suspects on D1 as well.

 

If Seph was your strongest mafia read from early game, I don't understand why you didn't do more to push him from earlier on. If he wasn't I don't know why you didn't do more to address him and try to resolve issues (before your case which was made and given when there was no time for him to address any of it before end of day).

 

Pretty sure the reason you gave at the time to vote Dice was competing trains and something about Chris's link with Niniel. And same answer to Lily, I currently have very little thread recall from about Wednesday to Friday last week.

 

 

 

Chris is because although I won't stop tinfoiling, he isn't mafia with Lenlo and I feel significantly worse about Lenlo (ironically Chris disagrees). Besides, the vote switch makes no sense to me as either alignment. As town, I don't see him having so little conviction in his read, as mafia I don't see why he would make himself look that bad on purpose.

 

I did explain this before. The way I play is to send out probes, poke people, wait for the reactions, then jump on what comes out. I was constantly behind in the thread and with the volume of the thread and with the lack of quote and mentions notifications (which I'm used to at PerC) I couldn't even see if anyone was responding to the probes I was sending out.

 

Like the SK question with Sili. I'd actually already decided that if the Sili/Seph argument was mafa/town, that Sili was more likely to be the town in that fight. But I still had some tinfoil going about Sili because I saw that he had just won a game as SK. So I was trying to test things to see how both he and Seph (and others) would react to the possibility of Sili being SK being floated. As far as I know only Sili responded,

 

I was basing my read on Seph off of his responses to other people in the thread while I was fighting to catch up.

 

As for Dice, I was poking him from D1 and also hardly ever got a chance to interact with him in real time in the thread. But I said from D1 he was one of my scummiest reads. I didn't vote him to form a competing wagon, I was appealing to people who were saying that he and Niniel were likely teamed that if they thought that then they should be voting Dice as a competing wagon. I wasn't as convinced that Niniel was scum as other people were, which is why I unvoted her when i realized my test vote could get her killed before I had a chance to test my theory. And the point I was at in the thread, she was L-1 from getting lynched and I was afraid that if people didn't back off of her she'd be hammered before anything could be tested further.

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Clovdyx

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  On 6/11/2016 at 9:17 PM, Lizabeth said:

 

  On 6/11/2016 at 8:48 PM, Clovdyx said:

Liz - 

 

1) Who do you want to lynch today?

2) Why do you feel good about my EoD actions?  

3) Did you ever go back and find that post of mine I asked you about before?

 

1. I'll let you know when I know :wink:

2. You know I love you, right? But you had a diva fit and the diva fit felt genuine. And when I read it all in context, I could understand what your thought process was and what you were trying to accomplish.

3) Nope. You want to link me to it now?

 

 

1) That's not an answer.

 

2) I don't really buy this.  You know me as a PERSON incredibly well.  When have you ever seen me just have a diva fit?  BFG seems to be reaching a bad conclusion because of it, but her justification makes sense.  It is somewhat uncharacteristic of me (Alanna might disagree....), and given that it could have put somebody at risk that I really didn't have any reason for being independently scummy, it seems strange to feel good about it.

 

What, EXACTLY, is your take on what I was trying to achieve?

 

3)  Not really, but I'll do it anyway.

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-day-3/page-144?do=findComment&comment=3665616

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-day-3/page-144?do=findComment&comment=3665617

 

  On 6/11/2016 at 9:20 PM, Lizabeth said:

 

  On 6/11/2016 at 8:59 PM, Clovdyx said:

BFG - I'm going to say this one time, and one time alone, because I get why you (and Zander, for that matter) weren't thrilled about my garbage reasons.  I wasn't either, and I said as much - there's a reason they're called garbage reasons FOR a reason.  But at the end of the day, I'm human, and I'm influenced by things beyond the flow of the thread...even when I try not to be.  

 

I've played three games with Liz.  She actually plays less frequently than I do.  One turbo on MU, Mafia Karts here, and a game on PerC.  I've randed mafia in all three, and she's been town in all three.  She was also killed very quickly in all three of them.  That didn't matter much in the PerC game because I died D1 anyways, but I digress.  

 

The reason I signed up for them is to play with her.  And in three tries, I haven't gotten the opportunity to work with her a single time.  Actually being town this game possibly gave me a chance to do that.  I wasn't confident it was incredibly likely at that point, but I also didn't have anything to completely rule it out, so I wasn't in a huge hurry to get rid of her.  If she's town and I lynch her, I'm basically removing one of TWO players (I don't think I need to tell you who the other is) from the game that I actually signed up to be in a game with and hurting my team.  If she's mafia, I obviously help my team, but I can try to find her teammates and still get a chance to PLAY with her.

 

 

The fact we're where we are and I don't have any reason to feel better about her is probably all I need to know about her alignment.  And if that's the case, you're probably 'objectively' right to think I should have pushed her sooner.  Sorry for trying to actually enjoy myself in a game for once - I won't do it again.

:wub: to the first part (as long as it's not a blatant attempt to pocket me)

 

for the second (assuming it wasn't a blatant attempt to pocket me), don't worry. I'm back now :happy:

 

 

At this point, I don't really care if you're back or not.

Lenlo Spam Master

Lenlo

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  On 6/11/2016 at 9:30 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Not really interested in fighting u since youre a wolf.

The exact same attitude you took before, when you refused to work with me and instead just said "F U wolf. Get in the hole."

Clovdyx Spam Master

Clovdyx

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  On 6/11/2016 at 9:27 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Im not saying anything about u and len chris. Just saying i have no reason to discount it besides your own villageriness

 

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And how can I argue with this flawless argument?  "Chris bussed Lenlo, and the only reason I have to doubt that is Chris has been really pro-town".

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