[Advanced]Lost mafia - Game over - Sili, SK wins!

[Zander?]

Im here and catching up.

[Eldrick4221]

Darthe...have you read the thread, yet? A lot of your posts have been responding to something without reading the thread.

[Eldrick4221]

Also, what's odd about it?

[Nynaeve]

Up through 18

@ darthe in regards to your besie quote. (Not trying to re quote any of that)

 

I hate when people purposely play wolfy as town to help there wolf game. If they wanna play like a wolf, I'm going to lynch them like a wolf.

I don't see this ever helping town. I also don't see any reason atm to not lynch besie. Continuing my reread

I agree.

 

I stopped here because I had more to add re: players:

 

Liking Turin's play up to that point, on his normal town game

 

Nyn: Beautiful lovely town goddess doing her thing

 

Seph I'm feeling much better about.

 

Can you explain what you consider "normal town game" for Turin?

 

And what did Seph do to make you feel better about him?

[Zander?]

 

 

So caught up, here's where I am

 

From town to scum

Seph

Zander

Lenlo

Nyn

Thane

Turin

Darthe

Dice

Eldrick

Shad

Celeste

Sili

Kivam

Besie

 

Im here Hallia.

Lets talk about your reads shall we.

Didnt you like Kivam during your catch up?

I had asked about your Besie read.  I disagree there.  THoughts?

ONly Shad's reads list moved him from being a suss?

 

I liked him initially but he trended down by trying to link us together when I hadn't even been posting.

I haven't seen anything for Besie to make me feel better, I will have to wait and see how she responds to all this.

I am ok with you disagreeing, because you did last game as well initially as I recall.

For the moment Shad seems ok with me.

 

halli I will read your posts if you iso thane and tell me what you see

I have never learned to ISO here.  

 

 

My concern with Kiv atp is were the only 2 people he seems to be focusing on but I am catching up now so Ill see.

 

Thanes been hinting at something with Shad so Ill have to check that out, but both have been kinda scummy imo.

 

Also hope I see more from you as I catch up.

[Zander?]

[unvote]

[v]seph[/v]

 

 

i don't like it when zander like sits back and questions ppl.

 

 

pretty sure he did that as scum anyway.

 

I question as both alignments but my concern is why are you voting seph if you think Im Scummy?

[Zander?]

screw this

 

[v] Seph [/v]

 

Thane youre kinda all over the place man.

 

I know he was in your sus list but still.

[Zander?]

 

Bessie, if you actually randed town you would tell us, right?

Do you honestly think she would just state it?

 

besie is the new cass

 

vote wolfqueen 

 

 

 

gives nyn a shoulder massage to help her stay zen

Are you really doing policy lynches now?

 

 

then why do it?

Because we all instinctively get a few positive and negative vibes right off the bat and have learned to disregard them, but when asked we can still state them?

 

I think disregarding those vibes lead to bad judgement by end game.

 

 

Thats all you have to say?

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

here

 

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Mine's bigger.....deal.

 

lolololololol

 

But seriously if you dont Town tell here shortly Im going to lynch you.

 

if town wants to lynch me that's fine.

 

 

It shouldnt be.

 

tell that to someone who cares.

 

 

Sili.....

 

 

It's quite a bit like the previous game, isn't it?

 

 

Kinda ya.  Tho hes already put more effort in imo.

[Guest]

 

 

 

 

 

You really like that post? Its kinda rote isnt it?

That depends. What's rote?

By the numbers

I still don't get it, but okay.

 

Looks to me like under Kiv's consideration, Halli and Zander are like the new Verbal and Leelou, which is sort of accurate (minus the googly eyes). But him focusing on Zander without addressing Halli at all (at least, I don't remember he did) is a good point and I liked that Zander made it.

Agreed.  Zander was around, so he was the one I picked to vote, to see how he reacted to pressure.  I've generally liked his response - and genuinely dislike [v]Hally's[/v].  Maybe I'm wrong, but she is not coming across very genuine to me, and even when she is around she's really not doing the type of interacting I typically see from her as town.  Zander is more in his normal town range, AFAICT on D1, so of the two I'll vote her.

 

Don't really have strong feelings on anyone as scum right now, so this is the best I've got.  And now I'm out, and since it's a Friday, probably won't be back before deadline

Agreed.

 

 

 

 

On another note: Are we one big lot of stubborn peeps, or are we going to compromise and decide on one person that is scum?

[Guest]

I know I haven't done any reads yet. I will break out my laptop later today (after some sleep) and do a reread. See what I can come up with.

 

Off the top of my head, I liked shad's initial entrance. It felt like someone who finally got town after a bunch of scum games. Haven't checked to see if his game stayed good yet.

 

I liked sili's game so far. I didn't like that he was getting flack for not posting when he hadn't even checked in yet, and am suspicious of those who pushed for a lynch on a spot that hadn't done anything yet. Effectively was a potential sub out.

 

It took me longer to get town vibes from seph, but I do feel that he's town. I don't like the votes piling up on him and would like some explanations.

 

Not sure if I agree with the zander/hally connection that besie is proposing. That if one is town, the other is scum. Why can't they both be town? Reeks of setting up mislynch.

 

That's it for now. Gonna try to get some sleep.

I didnt propose it. I agreed with it.

[Zander?]

I have to go, but here's a quick list (in no order)

 

Probably town:

Zander

Lenlo

Dice

Eldrick

Nyn

Besie

 

I don't know:

Darthe

Celeste

Thane

Kivam

 

Probably scum:

Hallia

Turin (not to lynch D1)

Shad

Sili

 

Talk to me about your Dice read my dear.

 

Also yourself in probably Town helps me think my Town read on you is PROBABLY right...

 

lololololololololol

[Nynaeve]

Also yourself in probably Town helps me think my Town read on you is PROBABLY right...

 

lololololololololol

 

I laughed when I saw it too 

[Zander?]

Vote: Thane

 

also wtl  Shad, Dice, Sili. 

 

Either my reads are really off

 

or Turin prolly Town,

[Zander?]

 

Bess, you have me a "probably" mafia but are saying not to lynch D1. Please expand on this. 

 

Well, I do not know your playing style at all, and to me you're more null than not. In colour, you'd be... TURIN

 

However, I agree with several players in that Hallia and Zander not talking talking so much could indicate that one of them is scum - because they know the other will be able to tell. I've set Zander as town. So IF this theory is correct, then Hallia is scum. 

 

Something of her posts around page 27 made me feel like you two could be W/W. That means you're wolf by association - and that is also the reason why I am not wtl you D1. I'd like to see what you do; read your ideas and opinions a bit more; see more interactions between you and other players - so that I can decide where you'd lie in my read list.

 

 

Can you show me what you saw irt Hallia Turin poss being w/w my dear?

[Guest]

 

I have to go, but here's a quick list (in no order)

 

Probably town:

Zander

Lenlo

Dice

Eldrick

Nyn

Besie

 

I don't know:

Darthe

Celeste

Thane

Kivam

 

Probably scum:

Hallia

Turin (not to lynch D1)

Shad

Sili

Talk to me about your Dice read my dear.

 

Also yourself in probably Town helps me think my Town read on you is PROBABLY right...

 

lololololololololol

He feels towny to me. I decided he's prolly town on page 26 - ish. His posts just feel... towny. Wow. Aren't I good with words.

 

And hey now! Nyn! Zan!

[Zander?]

As ironic as it is I still don't care very much myself, but I want to recognize the fact the wagons are too spread out and if we want to win we should group up on 2 or 3 we agree on, and of course the 7 not voting should vote.

 

Actually dont disagree with Sili here.

[Nynaeve]

Have to go out for a bit. Will be back in a few!

[Zander?]

Wolves have the least say on D1 usually, so id argue that they havent had a ton of impact on the votes being spread. Theyre more likely just being opportunistic here.

 

Which begs rhe question of which of those votes are opportunistic.

 

Darthe you wolfing?

[Guest]

 

 

Bess, you have me a "probably" mafia but are saying not to lynch D1. Please expand on this.

Well, I do not know your playing style at all, and to me you're more null than not. In colour, you'd be... TURIN

 

However, I agree with several players in that Hallia and Zander not talking talking so much could indicate that one of them is scum - because they know the other will be able to tell. I've set Zander as town. So IF this theory is correct, then Hallia is scum.

 

Something of her posts around page 27 made me feel like you two could be W/W. That means you're wolf by association - and that is also the reason why I am not wtl you D1. I'd like to see what you do; read your ideas and opinions a bit more; see more interactions between you and other players - so that I can decide where you'd lie in my read list.

Can you show me what you saw irt Hallia Turin poss being w/w my dear?

Eh... I actually can't remember why I thought that at that point in time. I never wrote it down...

[Zander?]

 

 

 

Vote: Thane

 

also wtl  Shad, Dice, Sili. 

any reasons for that?

 

I think you are mafia. 

 

Convince me your not?

 

I do believe that you are a good player and that you can pick up on hints in a game. I have been leaving hints in the thread. Maybe they're hidden too wel, but I'd ask you to read my reads on people closely. I'm not openly claiming at this point, and I think you can figure it out, Turin. Now, if my lynch would be inevitable, sure, a full claim would go out there. But not yet. 

 

 

screw this

 

[v] Seph [/v]

 

hang on

 

 

werent u saying shad earlier with all the "read my posts closely" stuff?

 

nope. Shad is my homey this game. 

 

 

Thane ffs if youve got something to say, say it. 

 

Im gonna look back at the BOTH of you and see whats what if ive got the time.

 

But you can stop being aloof and just say it brother,

[Guest]

Was gut feeling at that time.

 

Now... I don't know.

[Zander?]

i am making no promises about DL  thats like 5am for me

 

 

vote seph

 

 

absolutely following thane

 

Why?

[Zander?]

Had an extremely bad night  :/  ... gonna try to catch up. 

 

 

Hi. I had some health issues come up out of nowhere and spent most of yesterday in the ER. I'm still pretty delirious and can't promise much today but I'll try to get bqck into this game

 

 

Hope everything is ok for both of you.

 

<3 <3 <3

[Guest]

Further fwiw, I didn't fully understand Hallia's reasoning for voting me. I didn't bring it up because it feels like she and I have been at each others' throats since the previous game. Granted, I was scum there and wanted her gone (she was vig and killed me N2). Still, didn't want to bring my sensitivity about it into this game.

 

So when Turin later said her reasoning made sense to him and it was "good progression" (or whatever his words were), I was like what...? So he's still more scummy than null to me.