[Standard] Chrono Trigger Mafia - Town wins Day 5!

[Leelou]

^ I always liked wagonomics better than ISOing.

 

I prefer actual hammer games though. 

[Andrej]

Glad we're all on the same page.

[Zander?]

I am pretty sure one of AJ/Zander is scum, but we are not lynching EITHER of them today.  We have to lynch mafia today and we can't afford to be wrong about one of them.

 

We are lynching Nolder today.  THEN we can figure out who to lynch tomorrow.

 

Only pretty sure?

 

 

Tina, no.

 

 

I'm the watcher, and I watched Lenlo last night.  I had him as a town read, and knowing he could "kill", I figured he'd be the NK.

 

 

Nolder visited Lenlo last night.

 

 

Lynch Nolder.  AJ will vote, and Zander has to - he has Nolder as a scum read all game.

 

SO after these last 2 posts

 

So youre saying the possibility of Town having both a Watcher and a Tracker is possible?

 

 

I've had Verb as town. We can resolve AJ/Zander tomorrow.

 

Vote: Nolder

 

Verb, Who did you watch N1? What did you get?

 

I watched you N1, and nobody visited you.

 

 

 

Did you leave any hints to your role or this itself?

 

 

Final Votecount

 

 

AJ (1/5): Zander

 

Nolder (5/5): Verb. AJ, Leelou, Turin, Hallia

 

 

Not Voting (2): Nolder, Tina

 

 

 

That's a lynch...

 

Another vote that doesn't look good considering he's been active all morning and didn't vote his #2 scum read once I pounced.

 

 

Um...Im pretty sure this is a lie,  I also see you ignored responding to it.

 

 

 

 

 

Final Votecount

 

 

AJ (1/5): Zander

 

Nolder (5/5): Verb. AJ, Leelou, Turin, Hallia

 

 

Not Voting (2): Nolder, Tina

 

 

 

That's a lynch...

 

Another vote that doesn't look good considering he's been active all morning and didn't vote his #2 scum read once I pounced.

 

 

I see his last post as of 12 hours ago. 

 

 

This nor did I post ANYWHERE else on DM.

 

 

He is Tina.

 

Just look at how the game unfolded. Look at how he handled Nolder in comparison to me.

 

He's been saying all game Nolder and I are scum together, but couldn't explain why, and when given the opportunity to lynch his other scum read (which would mean I was trying to bus him hard EOD2) he didn't help me lynch my supposed teammate. Or try to lynch me, for that matter, despite having claimed to catch me N1.

 

Turin's slanted casing in support of Zander exposed him as well, though I can't blame him for that. The line has been drawn in the sand and it was all or nothing for Zander today.

 

The bold is the important part, with the red being the critical piece that probably locks him in as scum.  He claims to essentially slow-play it, but allowing you to escape the noose should have made him go all in on his caught scum....or at least push harder if he wanted to remain hidden.

 

Like, when you're a town PR and you have scum, you basically turn into a bully if your intent is to continue hiding.  I see no bullying from Zander.

 

 

Maybe I didnt play my PR role to everyone's satisfaction but its the first time I got one that wasnt Innocent child.  Im sorry if I played it wrong.

 

*shrugs*

 

I tried to be as subtle as I could as to avoid outting myself and avoid being NK'd.  I thought I did well enough in the former and have with the latter.

 

No one at all bothered to challenge Verb's claim at all. 

 

Id like to see if he can prove this with hints along with his N1 Watch of Turin,

 

Something worth noting.

 

Len said he was shooting Nolder

 

Nolder claimed he lost his vest.

 

Nolder was in everyone's scum reads.

 

AJ's comment on GF is bothering me still.

 

Perhaps AJ/Verb/Nol decide that Nol is expendable because AJ has a role that still is important/usable?

 

Just food for thought.

 

Ill try and be around more later tonight but Ill def be back around before Day starts and try to look into things further.

[Andrej]

A for effort.

[Leelou]

@Zander - people don't always hint or breadcrumb roles. 

[Andrej]

Whats funny is that now you're going to back yourself into a corner and not allow yourself to NK Verb tonight because that will clear him.

 

But, proceed...

[Verbal32]

I have no idea what you're trying to say in that post, Zander.

 

I didn't crumb anything with watching Turin.  Why did I need to?  It could have been a cop/doc/other town role that visited.

[Andrej]

Another thing, you and Turin are so fixated on this point because I said GF.

 

Let me ask, what is the direct counter role to a cop power? What is the first thing that comes readily to mind?

[Zander?]

A for effort.

 

Thank you.

 

@Zander - people don't always hint or breadcrumb roles. 

 

Must people leave some sort of clue or hint incase theyre NK'd.  Like if Verb ate a bullet last night what would lead us to know what he did?

 

Verbs a pretty awesome player I dont think he'd have left Town with no clues as to what he did.  Hence why I asked him to show us.

 

 

Whats funny is that now you're going to back yourself into a corner and not allow yourself to NK Verb tonight because that will clear him.

 

But, proceed...

 

 

[Verbal32]

 

 

Final Votecount

 

 

AJ (1/5): Zander

 

Nolder (5/5): Verb. AJ, Leelou, Turin, Hallia

 

 

Not Voting (2): Nolder, Tina

 

 

 

That's a lynch...

 

Another vote that doesn't look good considering he's been active all morning and didn't vote his #2 scum read once I pounced.

 

 

Um...Im pretty sure this is a lie,  I also see you ignored responding to it.

 

Only pretty sure?

 

 

 

 

lol

 

 

 

Also, I ignored what, exactly?

[Verbal32]

@ Zander

 

 

I already explained that - as a Watcher, it doesn't always make sense to crumb.  What if there is a Doc who visited Turin that night and I crumbed it?  That could have been a disaster.

[Verbal32]

My role only scumhunts accurately when used like I did with Lenlo.  I knew scum wanted to kill him to remove his NK ability (essentially), so I watched him to find the mafia kill.

 

No need to crumb, because I knew I wouldn't be the kill that night.

[Zander?]

I have no idea what you're trying to say in that post, Zander.

 

I didn't crumb anything with watching Turin.  Why did I need to?  It could have been a cop/doc/other town role that visited.

 

I figured that if you were killed youd have left Town something to work with.

 

 

Another thing, you and Turin are so fixated on this point because I said GF.

 

Let me ask, what is the direct counter role to a cop power? What is the first thing that comes readily to mind?

 

Nobodies claimed Cop tho have they?  Im not saying for someone to do this but that it should be noted.

 

You brought it up as justification to fence sit on Lee after your "claimed peek" on her imo.

 

But then again you actually do know if there is one or not,  Is it you?

[Verbal32]

Like, are you trying to sow seeds of doubt with me?

[Verbal32]

 

I have no idea what you're trying to say in that post, Zander.

 

I didn't crumb anything with watching Turin.  Why did I need to?  It could have been a cop/doc/other town role that visited.

 

I figured that if you were killed youd have left Town something to work with.

 

Can you please read my explanations above?  I told you how I play the watcher role.  I don't think it is played properly when crumbed early on when you can't predict the NK.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

Final Votecount

 

 

AJ (1/5): Zander

 

Nolder (5/5): Verb. AJ, Leelou, Turin, Hallia

 

 

Not Voting (2): Nolder, Tina

 

 

 

That's a lynch...

 

Another vote that doesn't look good considering he's been active all morning and didn't vote his #2 scum read once I pounced.

 

 

Um...Im pretty sure this is a lie,  I also see you ignored responding to it.

 

Only pretty sure?

 

 

 

 

lol

 

 

 

Also, I ignored what, exactly?

 

 

 

 

Leelou brought up that i only posted like 12 hours ago.

 

What you said was a complete lie.

 

You didnt respond to her.

 

Its a lie I wanted you to answer/explain it.

[Zander?]

@ Zander

 

 

I already explained that - as a Watcher, it doesn't always make sense to crumb.  What if there is a Doc who visited Turin that night and I crumbed it?  That could have been a disaster.

 

 

My role only scumhunts accurately when used like I did with Lenlo.  I knew scum wanted to kill him to remove his NK ability (essentially), so I watched him to find the mafia kill.

 

No need to crumb, because I knew I wouldn't be the kill that night.

 

 

Perhaps youre right with this.  Im not overly familiar with your role.  Just with my role Im trying to make sense if it fits for Town to have both,

[Verbal32]

 

@ Zander

 

 

I already explained that - as a Watcher, it doesn't always make sense to crumb.  What if there is a Doc who visited Turin that night and I crumbed it?  That could have been a disaster.

 

 

My role only scumhunts accurately when used like I did with Lenlo.  I knew scum wanted to kill him to remove his NK ability (essentially), so I watched him to find the mafia kill.

 

No need to crumb, because I knew I wouldn't be the kill that night.

 

 

Perhaps youre right with this.  Im not overly familiar with your role.  Just with my role Im trying to make sense if it fits for Town to have both,

 

 

Probably not, which is why you're probably scum.

 

;-)

[Verbal32]

 

 

 

 

Final Votecount

 

 

AJ (1/5): Zander

 

Nolder (5/5): Verb. AJ, Leelou, Turin, Hallia

 

 

Not Voting (2): Nolder, Tina

 

 

 

That's a lynch...

 

Another vote that doesn't look good considering he's been active all morning and didn't vote his #2 scum read once I pounced.

 

 

Um...Im pretty sure this is a lie,  I also see you ignored responding to it.

 

Only pretty sure?

 

 

 

 

lol

 

 

 

Also, I ignored what, exactly?

 

 

 

 

Leelou brought up that i only posted like 12 hours ago.

 

What you said was a complete lie.

 

You didnt respond to her.

 

Its a lie I wanted you to answer/explain it.

 

 

I didn't look at time between posts when I caught up this morning.  I'll grant that your last post was likely whenever you said it was - I was referring to how you'd not voted Nolder (again).  If you weren't around, fine.....but I did not lie.

[Andrej]

Nobody is going to claim Cop unless that's Turin's big plan for D4. I seriously doubt there's one considering the roles we've seen. I even acknowledged your Tracker claim because it would fit balance wise with as many active roles as there are. Except I know I'm town, Lenlo was town, and I believe Verb is town. So that's three roles for town with active abilities and one for scum to find them visiting others since there will be a lot of traffic during Night presumably.

 

Just like how Nolder had a BPV to counter Lenlo's killing power, you're a Tracker that can hunt town PRs.

 

And like I've already explained over and over, I had reason to doubt the result on Leelou. I peeked her because I expected a scum result so when I didn't get one, I was concerned. Her play has absolved that now and I'm actually not upset I picked her because she's theoretically another cleared townie on top of Verb and Hallia.

 

Your suspect pool is shrinking too fast so you have to really reach now, but I get it. No disrespect on going out with a fight.

[Verbal32]

I'd like to echo the A for effort.

 

Like, if Zander is scum, a smear campaign on me means he can't NK me without securing his own lynch tomorrow.

 

 

 

I'm legitimately confused as to what the mafia's plan is right now.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

Final Votecount

 

 

AJ (1/5): Zander

 

Nolder (5/5): Verb. AJ, Leelou, Turin, Hallia

 

 

Not Voting (2): Nolder, Tina

 

 

 

That's a lynch...

 

Another vote that doesn't look good considering he's been active all morning and didn't vote his #2 scum read once I pounced.

 

 

Um...Im pretty sure this is a lie,  I also see you ignored responding to it.

 

Only pretty sure?

 

 

 

 

lol

 

 

 

Also, I ignored what, exactly?

 

 

 

 

Leelou brought up that i only posted like 12 hours ago.

 

What you said was a complete lie.

 

You didnt respond to her.

 

Its a lie I wanted you to answer/explain it.

 

 

I didn't look at time between posts when I caught up this morning.  I'll grant that your last post was likely whenever you said it was - I was referring to how you'd not voted Nolder (again).  If you weren't around, fine.....but I did not lie.

 

 

Dude you had just said you were catching up over 7-8 pages and you would have noticed i hadnt made a single post over that span...

[Zander?]

I'd like to echo the A for effort.

 

Like, if Zander is scum, a smear campaign on me means he can't NK me without securing his own lynch tomorrow.

 

 

 

I'm legitimately confused as to what the mafia's plan is right now.

 

 

I dont care what the Aj and his teams plans are cause Im not Scum.

[Verbal32]

I haven't done the math to double check, but if we lynch scum again tomorrow, we might open up room for 1 more mislynch.

 

I say this because my tinfoil on Tina with her recent vote history and stance on AJ/Zander makes sense if she was a teammate.  Both she and Turin could make sense for that last spot.

 

 

But no tinfoil right now, let's just get to Day and see who got got.

[Verbal32]

 

 

Dude you had just said you were catching up over 7-8 pages and you would have noticed i hadnt made a single post over that span...

 

 

Not really - I was a little anxious that a lynch had been achieved before I had been back online, and it made me nervous - hence my "STOP" post.  I had to run to a meeting, and wanted to make sure I had a chance to comment before we lynched anybody.  I wasn't counting who posted or timestamps or anything like that.

 

This is a reach, bud.