[Basic]: Friends Mafia

[Eldrick4221]

I admit I am really having a difficult time committing to a vote on anyone. I agree with others that voting Hally at this point would be too risky, which in turn means Lily is out of the question for now too.

 

Which leaves me still teetering between Shad and Eldrick.

 

I've tried to make a post about this four or five times today, but I'm not coming up with anything new to say since my last one.

It certainly does not mean that Lily is out of the question.

 

Hally cop could have viewed lily gf.

 

If you think Lily is scum, then hally's view shouldn't stop you. I don't think Lily is scum.

[Taborline]

But do we legitimately think there is a GF in the small game?

[Eldrick4221]

Tab, how do you feel about turin?

[Taborline]

As of yesterday, good, but I am reading him now.

[Eldrick4221]

But do we legitimately think there is a GF in the small game?

I think Turin knows there's a gf, and therefore is trying to make us think there isn't a cop.

 

But tinfoil aside, the only non vanilla/goon roles being gf and cop is balanced imo.

[Eldrick4221]

I'd like your reasons on why when you're done.

 

I will be busy for most of this afternoon, so I won't respond quickly.

[Taborline]

 

But do we legitimately think there is a GF in the small game?

I think Turin knows there's a gf, and therefore is trying to make us think there isn't a cop.

 

But tinfoil aside, the only non vanilla/goon roles being gf and cop is balanced imo.

 

 

But why bring up the idea of there being a GF/cop so much if what you're saying is true? Wouldn't you want to lay lower than that?

 

Based on his reads lists and his pushing for a Thane/Lily wagon on D1, I could see the possibility of him being scum with Lily. Scum read one known townie, and scum read a team mate, but make sure the townie gets lynched. Once the team mate gets lynched, you look good for having suspected them on D1 too.

[Eldrick4221]

Change of plans. I have the wrong shoes to go do what I wanted to. Don't want to get my work shoes messed up.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

But do we legitimately think there is a GF in the small game?

I think Turin knows there's a gf, and therefore is trying to make us think there isn't a cop.

 

But tinfoil aside, the only non vanilla/goon roles being gf and cop is balanced imo.

But why bring up the idea of there being a GF/cop so much if what you're saying is true? Wouldn't you want to lay lower than that?

 

Based on his reads lists and his pushing for a Thane/Lily wagon on D1, I could see the possibility of him being scum with Lily. Scum read one known townie, and scum read a team mate, but make sure the townie gets lynched. Once the team mate gets lynched, you look good for having suspected them on D1 too.

For exactly this reason. To make you think he's town because of it. The "why would scum do that" approach.

[Niniel]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Turin (1) - Eld

 

Not voting: Lily, Hallia, Sooh, Turin, Tab, Shad

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline is Saturday 9 PM CET. That is 23 hours from now. 

Countdown

 

 

[Eldrick4221]

Where is everybody? There is simply not enough discussion in this game.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

But do we legitimately think there is a GF in the small game?

I think Turin knows there's a gf, and therefore is trying to make us think there isn't a cop.

 

But tinfoil aside, the only non vanilla/goon roles being gf and cop is balanced imo.

 

 

But why bring up the idea of there being a GF/cop so much if what you're saying is true? Wouldn't you want to lay lower than that?

 

Based on his reads lists and his pushing for a Thane/Lily wagon on D1, I could see the possibility of him being scum with Lily. Scum read one known townie, and scum read a team mate, but make sure the townie gets lynched. Once the team mate gets lynched, you look good for having suspected them on D1 too.

 

So what's your read of him now?

He was town before your reread. Have you finished your reread yet?

Is this your only thought of him now, that he could be scum with Lily because of the D1 trains?

 

I want your reasons for your current read of him.

[Eldrick4221]

 

so, we lynch Zander who gave you a headache? works for me

 

 

until we find the real wolves that is

 

This reads like you know Zander isn't a wolf. How?

 

[V] Thane [/v]

 

Out for several hours with only the WiFi I can nick around Leeds. See ya later.

 

 

We know that Zander and Thane were both town.

 

Scum!Turin sees a way to cast suspicion on Thane (who he knows is town) for what could easily be seen as either a joke or a slip.

 

Town!Turin sees something that could be a slip, and pursues it all D1.

[Eldrick4221]

I start doing a reread and realize that I don't have time to finish. Blood and bloody ashes.

[Hallia]

They're sleepin'.  So I'm gonna go through here and see what I can do.

[Hallia]

I'm not liking the train already building up with basically no content.

 

[V]Turin [/v] for voting the already existing train.

 

Have you been going for Turin the entire game, Eld?

[Hallia]

Up through 14

 

 

Sooh. What's your reason for leaving your vote there now? I find it suspicious that you commented on planning to remove your vote, but didn't unvote.

I don't usually hard unvote, even a joke vote. I leave it there until I find someone scummy or more scummy. I would have in this case if there had been a quick train on Thane and more than two votes were on him, but right now my joke stays where it is

Ok. I went back to check the last 2 games. To compare them to what you did here.

GnD you voted Zander cuz of the petition. You unvoted when you woke up the next day, because it was a joke vote, and you thought he was town.

Supernatural you joke voted BG, welcoming him back to the game. You decided to leave the vote on as a reaction test, because he didn't respond to your vote.

In this game, first you say you intended to remove it, but you forgot. Then, when I asked you about it, you said you don't normally unvote until you find a scummy target. Was GnD a fluke, then?

 

Sooh defends herself, seemingly pretty aware of what she "normally does"

 

 

Sooh, currently null. The leaving a vote thing doesn't bother me so much. I know some people just like to have a vote on the board.

We don't even know there is a cop. If there is then there is likely a GF. So I'm not placing much hope in getting red views This game.

The soft defend here, along with setup speculation isn't a good look

 

 

 

 

Sooh. What's your reason for leaving your vote there now? I find it suspicious that you commented on planning to remove your vote, but didn't unvote.

I don't usually hard unvote, even a joke vote. I leave it there until I find someone scummy or more scummy. I would have in this case if there had been a quick train on Thane and more than two votes were on him, but right now my joke stays where it is

Ok. I went back to check the last 2 games. To compare them to what you did here.

GnD you voted Zander cuz of the petition. You unvoted when you woke up the next day, because it was a joke vote, and you thought he was town.

Supernatural you joke voted BG, welcoming him back to the game. You decided to leave the vote on as a reaction test, because he didn't respond to your vote.

In this game, first you say you intended to remove it, but you forgot. Then, when I asked you about it, you said you don't normally unvote until you find a scummy target. Was GnD a fluke, then?

 

I actually don't recall hard unvoting Zander, but I know I went off of him because there had been so much discussion and drama already around that petition. Look, Eldrick, most of the time I am not aware of my meta at all. I'm sure it's there, but I don't know what it is. I had noticed this about myself that I consciously would leave my vote on someone until somebody more scummy would show up, but I'm also aware that it's recent. If you want to condemn me for that then go ahead. I still think you have odd reasons for sussing people this game, and I haven't seen anything yet that has lead me to believe otherwise. My vote isn't final, but right now it is on you because I find you the most scummy. 

 

Anyway, it's Valentine's day, so I won't be here much today, plus I'm in kind of a funk because somebody was being less than nice to me in a mafia game on another board, so I'm not really in the mood to play at all. Hopefully I'll get back to being excited about playing very soon. 

 

And now Sooh doesn't know what she "normally" does.  I should have focused harder on rereading before.  At the moment, I could see a Turin/Sooh team.

[Hallia]

Up through 19; gonna crash

 

 

 

 

Just catching up now. I don't really recall Eld going emo before either. I must say that I don't really pay attention to those sort of things too much.

 

Starting to think Eldrick could well be town after all. Would probably prefer to see Thane / Lily wagons at this point.

 

Turin do you really feel Thane made a slip?

 

lmk when youre caught up.

 

Im not feeling Town!Lily atp tbqh.

 

Yes. I do. It is a psychology thing in the way he said it.

 

Why do you think Thane is town? That is the feel I am getting from your posts anyway. It actually feels like you are trying to convey that I shouldn't be suspicious of him without coming out and saying so.

 

Turin throwing shade on Thane

Current thoughts:

 

1. Thane- mafia: Potential slip. lack of involvement so far.  
2. Shad- null: Buddying so wary. He seems to be understanding what I was saying so far.
3. Sooh- null>Town: One very small concern about the Thane vote earlier but thinking more likely town atp.
4. Hallia- town lean: so far so good if a small sample size to date.
5. Zander- mixed: asking questions but his stance on Thane who I am currently reading mafia is troubling me.
6. Eldrick- null>mafia: I am getting a townie vibe from him despite all of his odd statements. 
7. Lily-mafia: I feel she is using statements/opinions made by others to cast doubt at people. too much "metoo"ing for me I guess is easiest way to say it.
8. Taborline- town lean: similar to Hallia. so far so good. Nothing pinging but small sample size.
9. Turin- TTTTtT

 

I'm most interested in seeing a Thane lynch I think atm. 

This reads list makes me suspicious as well with so many townies listed as mafia. or mixed.

[Eldrick4221]

 

I'm not liking the train already building up with basically no content.

 

[V]Turin [/v] for voting the already existing train.

Have you been going for Turin the entire game, Eld?

No. I was at the beginning. After I realized I misunderstood his reasoning I stepped back and reevaluated. Without my faulty reasoning, he seemed towny atp. I have liked that his reads list changed its reasonings. This doesn't necessarily mean town, but it's a good sign.

 

But now I'm worried about the fact that he's been pushing the idea that there's no cop in this game. There's no reason to reasonably think that. My guess is he knows there's a cop cuz his team has a gf, and he's been placing doubt on the concept of there being a cop so we would question your claim, which we did.

[Eldrick4221]

They're sleepin'. So I'm gonna go through here and see what I can do.

What about when they weren't? This game has been alarmingly slow.

[Eldrick4221]

To anyone who isn't aware, deadline is in 12 hours.

[Eldrick4221]

There has been so little solving today. Most people have said they don't know who to vote for one reason or another.

 

Shad and I had our exchange, which has people wondering our alignments. Consensus is that it's v/w or v/v which is true.

 

Nobody seems to be trying to figure out the game much today. I need more effort from my fellow townies.

 

Tab went back to look over Turin, but hasn't really produced results from it. That concerns me.

 

Hally is starting to make an effort here. I'm liking what I see recently.

 

Sooh answered my questions about current topics, but I'd like to see more solving from her.

 

Lily and Tab are the ones that seem to be lost as far as how to proceed from here. I'm curious to see what they do. Lily commented on being willing to vote turin, but used the excuse that it's his wedding day. I don't like that you're using rl stuff as an excuse after getting on my case about my comment about shad's headache. Do you still intend to vote him? If not, why?

[Eldrick4221]

@Lily can I get an updated reads list from you with current reads, not copy/pasted stuff from old reads thrown in?

 

@Turin can you explain why you have your town reads? You explained your scum, but not your town.

[Eldrick4221]

If I get killed, this game won't reach page 60 :P

[Niniel]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

 

Turin (1) - Eld

 

Not voting: Lily, Hallia, Sooh, Turin, Tab, Shad

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

 

Deadline is Saturday 9 PM CET. That is about 10 hours from now.

 

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