[Advanced] Gods and Demons Mafia - All your souls belong to Shad (Triads win)

[Zander?]

 

I dont understand whats happening here at all.

 

Im not tunneling at all and i havent locked you in as Scum.

 

WERE OVER A DAY BEFORE DL!!!!!!

 

 

 

That's cool, I'd rather not lie straight to your face or anything

 

Your tunnels are super annoying btw

 

 

 

I know but I havent started tunneling you yet man (believe me ask others).  All I did was vote for reasons I felt were wolfy.

 

You know Im Town so Im not being malicious or deceitful.

 

And you know I love you, but Im just reading you this can cause I genuinely feel that you most certainly can flip wolf.

 

 

 

See the use of the word CAN

[monstrman]

 

With the hours I'm working there's no way I have time to catch up on all this. 

 

In the meantime, anyone want to give me the sparknotes version of the past 600+ posts?

 

I got lynched for mentioning 3p and for my reason to want to lynch Zander.

 

I'm apparently a stump.

 

Zander is IC. Apparently changed from VT to IC D1.

 

People suspect JS, but no one has given a reason why.

 

There is a debate over which D0 matters or not. Did mafia exist then or not? Were only roles assigned D0/N0, or were alignments as well. There is speculation over whether everyone was VT D0, my becoming a sacrificial lamb and now a stump leading to this credence.

 

Hally is acting weird to some people. (Not me personally FYI)

 

Did I miss anything relevant?

 

 

Five pages of arguing over whether or not I'm town

 

Feel free to weigh in

[monstrman]

 

 

I dont understand whats happening here at all.

 

Im not tunneling at all and i havent locked you in as Scum.

 

WERE OVER A DAY BEFORE DL!!!!!!

 

 

 

That's cool, I'd rather not lie straight to your face or anything

 

Your tunnels are super annoying btw

 

 

 

I know but I havent started tunneling you yet man (believe me ask others).  All I did was vote for reasons I felt were wolfy.

 

You know Im Town so Im not being malicious or deceitful.

 

And you know I love you, but Im just reading you this can cause I genuinely feel that you most certainly can flip wolf.

 

 

 

See the use of the word CAN

 

 

You've already decided what you think and you know it

[Zander?]

I cant even consider clearing you atp with these responses man im sorry.....you can ridicule me all you want if im wrong.

[monstrman]

I cant even consider clearing you atp with these responses man im sorry.....you can ridicule me all you want if im wrong.

 

You have no idea how to play this game

[monstrman]

And yes, reading me wrong is your fault

 

I don't care how "wolfy" you think I am

[Celeste]

 

With the hours I'm working there's no way I have time to catch up on all this. 

 

In the meantime, anyone want to give me the sparknotes version of the past 600+ posts?

 

 

I got lynched for mentioning 3p and for my reason to want to lynch Zander.

 

I'm apparently a stump.

 

Zander is IC. Apparently changed from VT to IC D1.

 

People suspect JS, but no one has given a reason why.

 

There is a debate over which D0 matters or not. Did mafia exist then or not? Were only roles assigned D0/N0, or were alignments as well. There is speculation over whether everyone was VT D0, my becoming a sacrificial lamb and now a stump leading to this credence.

 

Hally is acting weird to some people. (Not me personally FYI)

 

Did I miss anything relevant?

Hi Eldrick, I replaced Snow.

[Zander?]

 

I cant even consider clearing you atp with these responses man im sorry.....you can ridicule me all you want if im wrong.

 

You have no idea how to play this game

 

 

cant argue that

 

And yes, reading me wrong is your fault

 

I don't care how "wolfy" you think I am

 

it usually is the fault of Town misreading people..mostly

[Zander?]

Town meaning mysel

[monstrman]

Oh and also

 

 

 

You've already decided what you think and you know it

 

 

I cant even consider clearing you atp with these responses man im sorry.....you can ridicule me all you want if im wrong.

[Zander?]

myself

 

#thewordsarehard

[Calder]

And yes, reading me wrong is your fault

 

I don't care how "wolfy" you think I am

Damn. Gonna be hard to vote you bc of this. I have always hated the do something random mafia attitude then if corrected take credit, if wrong oh well was his fault. (In general observation)

[Zander?]

 

Oh and also

 

 

 

You've already decided what you think and you know it

 

 

I cant even consider clearing you atp with these responses man im sorry.....you can ridicule me all you want if im wrong.

 

 

For someone claiming to understand me youre not doing a great job of it.

 

If youre legit upset maybe take a step away for a break.

[monstrman]

I've played over 200 games in my ww career

 

I have never once gotten a player lynched by myself off of a case

 

I have played trying to townhunt over scumhunting for the last 50-100 games

I have been lynched probably in over a third of my games, and I have been on the end of "You were wolfy so it's your fault you got lynched"

 

No. That's wrong. You read the game incorrectly and your own bad read was your own fault. I'm not having any of this in this game.

[monstrman]

 

 

Oh and also

 

 

 

You've already decided what you think and you know it

 

 

I cant even consider clearing you atp with these responses man im sorry.....you can ridicule me all you want if im wrong.

 

 

For someone claiming to understand me youre not doing a great job of it.

 

If youre legit upset maybe take a step away for a break.

 

 

I fail to see how you saying "I'm not considering you as anything other than scum atp" isn't exactly the same thing as "I'm not unvoting you and still think you're scum"

[Zander?]

 

 

 

Oh and also

 

 

 

You've already decided what you think and you know it

 

 

I cant even consider clearing you atp with these responses man im sorry.....you can ridicule me all you want if im wrong.

 

 

For someone claiming to understand me youre not doing a great job of it.

 

If youre legit upset maybe take a step away for a break.

 

 

I fail to see how you saying "I'm not considering you as anything other than scum atp" isn't exactly the same thing as "I'm not unvoting you and still think you're scum"

 

 

because people can clear themselves.....

[monstrman]

[Calder]

 

 

I cant even consider clearing you atp with these responses man im sorry.....you can ridicule me all you want if im wrong.

You have no idea how to play this game

Only recent post I didnt like from manbat. However, frustration attacks are pretty null for a lot of players. They rub me the wrong way, but can prob write this off bc his activity level already shows his investment level.

[monstrman]

 

 

 

 

Oh and also

 

 

 

You've already decided what you think and you know it

 

 

I cant even consider clearing you atp with these responses man im sorry.....you can ridicule me all you want if im wrong.

 

 

For someone claiming to understand me youre not doing a great job of it.

 

If youre legit upset maybe take a step away for a break.

 

 

I fail to see how you saying "I'm not considering you as anything other than scum atp" isn't exactly the same thing as "I'm not unvoting you and still think you're scum"

 

 

because people can clear themselves.....

 

 

Obviously I can't because I've been bashing my head against a wall with this and you haven't budged an inch citing that I'm "Overreacting"

 

You haven't even seen overreacting.

[Shad_]

Ok, I ISO'd you, and I'm not going to do some hours-consuming post by post commentary so forgive me and correct me if any of this misreps you, but here's what I'm seeing:

D0 you came in dropping a lot of village reads, plenty of them didn't have an explanation but you did state your opinion often enough.  You gave clear reasons for calling Zander, Laine, and Lenlo town, Csarmi nullish, at least tried to explain why you couldn't explain your town read on BFG, explained why you backed down to a weaker read of Laine but still had her town.  You showed progression onto Eldrick and never backed off until the cfd call at the end.

Since D1 started you've pointed out that you were right about Zander, apologized to Eldrick while pointing out that you'd wanted to save him at the last minute.  You treated Eldrick as town but when Dice talked to you about the value of Eldrick's input you said to toss it out as he could be scum.  You explained D0 reads--reiterated why you thought Zander was town post-IC reveal and explained why you thought Laine was scummy by EoD (which you hadn't actually dropped any hint of at EoD).  You called me town when I went at you and reversed when I stopped, but didn't really answer any of my questions beyond generic "I'm allowed to change my mind", "town contradict themselves too", etc.  You talked about rules of thumb for catching scum partners for a while on the assumption that Lenlo was scum, but you never said why you voted him beyond 'attempt at pocketing denied'.  About the only game-specific and solve-relevant observation you've made is that you don't think Lenlo and Hallia can be scum partners.  You AtE 'quit' around the time I stopped keeping up.

I gather you're a fairly aware and experienced player.  I'm going to try to not assume that everything looking scummy on the surface necessarily is scummy for the face-value reason.  A lot of it could alternately function as reaction testing--though I struggle to buy that you wanted to lynch Laine on D0 but forgot to tell anybody.  Your D1 style is good cover for scum to do whatever you want and get away with it if people buy that it's all some test, and it's potentially productive play for town if you get results and act on them.  The problem is, it's not the game you were playing yesterday.  You were playing relatively open D0.  Since D1 something switched in your head to make you take a different, significantly slimier approach to this game.  I'm willing to lynch you for that.

[monstrman]

 

 

I cant even consider clearing you atp with these responses man im sorry.....you can ridicule me all you want if im wrong.

You have no idea how to play this game

Only recent post I didnt like from manbat. However, frustration attacks are pretty null for a lot of players. They rub me the wrong way, but can prob write this off bc his activity level already shows his investment level.

 

 

 

 

I cant even consider clearing you atp with these responses man im sorry.....you can ridicule me all you want if im wrong.

You have no idea how to play this game

Only recent post I didnt like from manbat. However, frustration attacks are pretty null for a lot of players. They rub me the wrong way, but can prob write this off bc his activity level already shows his investment level.

 

 

I felt bad saying it but I am very mad and stressed out and I hate this game

[Zander?]

 

 

I cant even consider clearing you atp with these responses man im sorry.....you can ridicule me all you want if im wrong.

You have no idea how to play this game

Only recent post I didnt like from manbat. However, frustration attacks are pretty null for a lot of players. They rub me the wrong way, but can prob write this off bc his activity level already shows his investment level.

 

 

 

Didnt you have Monstr as scum all game?

[monstrman]

Ok, I ISO'd you, and I'm not going to do some hours-consuming post by post commentary so forgive me and correct me if any of this misreps you, but here's what I'm seeing:

 

D0 you came in dropping a lot of village reads, plenty of them didn't have an explanation but you did state your opinion often enough.  You gave clear reasons for calling Zander, Laine, and Lenlo town, Csarmi nullish, at least tried to explain why you couldn't explain your town read on BFG, explained why you backed down to a weaker read of Laine but still had her town.  You showed progression onto Eldrick and never backed off until the cfd call at the end.

 

Since D1 started you've pointed out that you were right about Zander, apologized to Eldrick while pointing out that you'd wanted to save him at the last minute.  You treated Eldrick as town but when Dice talked to you about the value of Eldrick's input you said to toss it out as he could be scum.  You explained D0 reads--reiterated why you thought Zander was town post-IC reveal and explained why you thought Laine was scummy by EoD (which you hadn't actually dropped any hint of at EoD).  You called me town when I went at you and reversed when I stopped, but didn't really answer any of my questions beyond generic "I'm allowed to change my mind", "town contradict themselves too", etc.  You talked about rules of thumb for catching scum partners for a while on the assumption that Lenlo was scum, but you never said why you voted him beyond 'attempt at pocketing denied'.  About the only game-specific and solve-relevant observation you've made is that you don't think Lenlo and Hallia can be scum partners.  You AtE 'quit' around the time I stopped keeping up.

 

I gather you're a fairly aware and experienced player.  I'm going to try to not assume that everything looking scummy on the surface necessarily is scummy for the face-value reason.  A lot of it could alternately function as reaction testing--though I struggle to buy that you wanted to lynch Laine on D0 but forgot to tell anybody.  Your D1 style is good cover for scum to do whatever you want and get away with it if people buy that it's all some test, and it's potentially productive play for town if you get results and act on them.  The problem is, it's not the game you were playing yesterday.  You were playing relatively open D0.  Since D1 something switched in your head to make you take a different, significantly slimier approach to this game.  I'm willing to lynch you for that.

 

This entire post is a misrep

 

I gave my reasoning for voting lenlo when I quoted the post that said "spot the pocket"

 

Almost every one of my non-joke posts have been solve relevant material and you say "you have good tone therefore you must be scum"

 

My style didn't change at all between d0 and d1

 

This guy's scum equity shot up to over 65%

[monstrman]

And I didn't FORGET TO TELL ANYONE

 

I SAID SPECIFICALLY "I STILL FIND THE WAY LAINE AGREED WITH ME WEIRD"

[Zander?]

Mafia is a game of love/hate!!!!

 

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