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[BASIC/STANDARD] Warcraft: War of the Ancients Mafia - GAME OVER, MAFIA WINS

Songstress

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wish-tree Rising Star

wish-tree

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Got it. I think that Pralaya's day today has been a better look comparatively. Still a little bothered by his progression on Cass. [v] Kaylee [/V] what do you think about that?

Kaylee Spam Master

Kaylee

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Pral: your points against me are stronger for D1. What I mean is that my reads strong and I was very wishy washy. Since D2 started however, I've made solid reads considering the info we gained. I've made points/arguments why I have my reads where they are. Having me as one of your top scum reads for liking posts is weak at this point in the game. I could see if I hadn't put in any work but I have.

 

Uh? That doesn't mean anything. Just because you are scum doesn't mean that you will just pocket somebody and do nothing. Of course there will be other things also - casing, nudging etc etc. It is the small things to notice.

Incidentally, most of your "I like this" posts are usually for points against an easy lynch candidate. INitially it was Lenlo, where Pizza made a case against him. When he came out as cop, your posts were focused on Celeste and me.

It is when seen as a whole that my points make sense. Again., context matters heavily. It is not a "Oh, she likes posts and hence scum" kind of thing.

Actually, the above replies have kind of convinced me she is scum. This is not going to happen but it is here for others to see after they know my flip

[v]Kaylee[/v]

 

This reads like a villager replying to someone he actually believes is scum.

I've said the same thing. I understand I'm in the POE though. I'll even self vote of we need to it secure the lynch. Just hope it helps you find the last two schmoes

Cass Master

Cass

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I am asking people to please lynch Kaylee first before anything else happens.

 

If she is scum, you never lynch Pralaya.

 

I was willing to resolve Pralaya so I could blue Nolder.

 

Well, Kaylee is still in the POE, and I'm willing to resolve Kaylee so I can blue Pralaya.

 

Kaylee flips innocent, then we'll talk about Pralaya.

 

This is my executive decision and I need town heroes.

 

I don't get the bold. Last I remember reading, Nolder is insisting Pral is Town. I don't see how Pral's flip clears Nolder either way.

 

I agree Kaylee-Pral not likely WW (Csarmi had them on the same tier; Called Kay outright Town (dunno where I got the idea he was bussing her/agreeing with you, wth?), said No lynch was > Pral lynch). If one of them was wolfing with Csarmi, I doubt the other was too.

 

 

Cass, don't ISO anything. We agree Kaylee can be scum and I am solid blue, and you're aware of why.

 

I'm asking you to do me this as a favor. Move your vote right now if you're so inclined.

 

Then re-read if you wish.

 

 

 

 

Give me something simple to read once I'm out of/between classes pizza. I want to know why this is the BEST way to go

 

Yeah, I won't do anything too complicated.

 

I had time to ISO Pralaya. I won't talk about stuff I think is null, I'll just point out a couple things about him.

 

And on Kaylee, she is extremely scummy in a vacuum. Her behavior since being cased by me is largely the same as before, with some minor adjustments.

 

But I do feel that this is not her town game, and my interpretation of Csarmi's intent could be wrong. When I have her even more scum-read because of that old game he cited, he wasn't satisfied with my response and gave me a more recent game, to reflect Kaylee's change toward a more diplomatic and town-finding game.

 

This could have been because he, on his own, was not happy I was finding her even more scummy, or because kaylee knew of her own evolution since that cited game and offered a more recent game where she exhibited the defined behavior.

 

Other than that behavior by Csarmi read a certain way, Kaylee's behavior this game still reads scummy a lot, and if it's not read that way, it's really easy to see what Pralaya is saying about her.

 

I don't think they're w/w and they're both in the POE. The key is lynching a wolf today, because that moves people OUT of the POE.

 

 

That seems plausible. Not sure that Csarmi-scum is motivated enough to go searching for games to spare Town-Kaylee. Was he close to being lynched at this time?

 

 

 

Why I pushed Pralaya today was largely to clear Nolder if Pralaya is scum, for much the same reason.

 

Scums have been willing to go along with this, clearly. Probably because it is wrong.

 

Pral-Nolder Questioned above. I actually feel Nolder more likely to be scummy in general.

 

Kaylee voted Pral first? That doesn't seem like 'going along'? Need to check timing of it, was it thread consensus? Also hasn't looked like moving her vote, wouldn't Scum be more willing to keep options open earlier in the day?

 

How many scum are actually left? What if there's only one? 

Askthepizzaguy Rising Star

Askthepizzaguy

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What makes you think that Pralaya is less likely to be scum roleblocked/godfather than Kaylee?

 

It's nearly the same. Pralaya is not town-telling heavily, but Kaylee was scum-telling D1.

 

Csarmi's behavior toward Kaylee could have been flinchy.

 

The only evidence like that toward Pralaya was that his wagon stalled with likely 3 villagers on it. But I was actively making that wagon stall.

 

It may have been the case that Pralaya wagon would be full of townies lynching another townie so the wolves thought they had options, then that option disappeared.

Askthepizzaguy Rising Star

Askthepizzaguy

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Got it. I think that Pralaya's day today has been a better look comparatively. Still a little bothered by his progression on Cass. [v] Kaylee [/V] what do you think about that?

 

Did you unvote? I didn't see you unvote if you did.

Songstress Spam Master

Songstress

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Got it. I think that Pralaya's day today has been a better look comparatively. Still a little bothered by his progression on Cass. [v] Kaylee [/V] what do you think about that?

 

Did you unvote? I didn't see you unvote if you did.

 

 

:unsure:

 

:blush:

Kaylee Spam Master

Kaylee

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I am asking people to please lynch Kaylee first before anything else happens.

 

If she is scum, you never lynch Pralaya.

 

I was willing to resolve Pralaya so I could blue Nolder.

 

Well, Kaylee is still in the POE, and I'm willing to resolve Kaylee so I can blue Pralaya.

 

Kaylee flips innocent, then we'll talk about Pralaya.

 

This is my executive decision and I need town heroes.

As I said I'll help if we need the vote. Hope this doesn't go into no lynch. I'd rather be lynched for info then have us not get info with a no lynch.
Askthepizzaguy Rising Star

Askthepizzaguy

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Pral: your points against me are stronger for D1. What I mean is that my reads strong and I was very wishy washy. Since D2 started however, I've made solid reads considering the info we gained. I've made points/arguments why I have my reads where they are. Having me as one of your top scum reads for liking posts is weak at this point in the game. I could see if I hadn't put in any work but I have.

Uh? That doesn't mean anything. Just because you are scum doesn't mean that you will just pocket somebody and do nothing. Of course there will be other things also - casing, nudging etc etc. It is the small things to notice.

Incidentally, most of your "I like this" posts are usually for points against an easy lynch candidate. INitially it was Lenlo, where Pizza made a case against him. When he came out as cop, your posts were focused on Celeste and me.

It is when seen as a whole that my points make sense. Again., context matters heavily. It is not a "Oh, she likes posts and hence scum" kind of thing.

Actually, the above replies have kind of convinced me she is scum. This is not going to happen but it is here for others to see after they know my flip

[v]Kaylee[/v]

 

This reads like a villager replying to someone he actually believes is scum.

I've said the same thing. I understand I'm in the POE though. I'll even self vote of we need to it secure the lynch. Just hope it helps you find the last two schmoes

 

 

No, if you're a villager you will keep your vote on Pralaya and talk to me.

wish-tree Rising Star

wish-tree

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I found her to be more town on Day 1, but I was aware that a surface level reading of her game could be misleading. I was less willing to lynch her than Pralaya and Nolder, but if Pizza wants consolidation, she is at the bottom of my POE.

Kaylee Spam Master

Kaylee

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Give me something simple to read once I'm out of/between classes pizza. I want to know why this is the BEST way to go

 

 

Yeah, I won't do anything too complicated.

 

I had time to ISO Pralaya. I won't talk about stuff I think is null, I'll just point out a couple things about him.

 

And on Kaylee, she is extremely scummy in a vacuum. Her behavior since being cased by me is largely the same as before, with some minor adjustments.

 

But I do feel that this is not her town game, and my interpretation of Csarmi's intent could be wrong. When I have her even more scum-read because of that old game he cited, he wasn't satisfied with my response and gave me a more recent game, to reflect Kaylee's change toward a more diplomatic and town-finding game.

 

This could have been because he, on his own, was not happy I was finding her even more scummy, or because kaylee knew of her own evolution since that cited game and offered a more recent game where she exhibited the defined behavior.

 

Other than that behavior by Csarmi read a certain way, Kaylee's behavior this game still reads scummy a lot, and if it's not read that way, it's really easy to see what Pralaya is saying about her.

 

I don't think they're w/w and they're both in the POE. The key is lynching a wolf today, because that moves people OUT of the POE.

Lynching me you won't lynch scum. Sorry for the off game.

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