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Hate to say this, but I feel BFG could be a wolf this time. Her cases and thought process is usually so clear, and here it isn't. Of course she also hasn't had a lot of time, so waiting to conclude is probably a good thing and give her more time to redeem herself. 

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So now I'm looking at Shad as being shady given that end of day, now distancing from BFG, her partner, and Sooh being a big ole question mark.

 

Oh, and of course, Dice looks really meh to me, but I defer to others.

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  On 10/30/2015 at 9:38 AM, Nomi Sunrider said:

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Then I scrambled over to BFG because why not, I almost feel like BFG posting now when the round is decided is just sort of padding.

 

You know, for all intents and purposes, the round is decided. I would be surprised if even my active discussion about moving it in any other direction would have any effect other than for me to be lynched as the alternative to Rack.

 

This is the single safest part of the round for scums to post in, and BFG could simply be padding her D1 contributions.

 

It's so weak, so flimsy. BFG was one of the people who noted the same thing I noted in my defense of myself, if I recall, about the nature of humanity, we contradict ourselves, etc.

In 3 of 4 of my most recent games as town I've been amongst the highest posters. 'Padding' my post count now isn't going to mean much to anyone. I was hoping by now I'd have more opinions, or at least be more confident with my thoughts, but everything's still a bit grey and I only really post when I have things to say, or mostly when there are people to prod.

 

 

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  On 10/30/2015 at 2:24 PM, Clovdyx said:

 

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I meant get a town read FROM me. You asked if I was town, and after I said yes, you made a comment that essentially boiled down to you claiming town. I'm not going to say that's scummy becaus its not - its completely null. Just the way you went about it was...atypical? I don't know.

 

FEO BFG only

 

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I know you meant from you , and 'are you town', 'yup', 'me too' is a decent interpretation of that conversation, if you thought it was odd that would be fine, but you initially called it dirty, then cheap (if I recall correctly) neither of which are ways that I play (I think the worst that can be said of me is perhaps a tendency to ATE, which can be called dirty/cheap, but is a different situation than 4 posts into the game).

 

What I was trying to say was that for that comment to be taken as anything other than banter/a joke I'd have to be town reading you for real, which isn't going to happen that early in a game (regardless of my alignment) so I'm surprised that was your initial response.

 

I don't know if that makes sense?

 

 

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  On 10/31/2015 at 10:14 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

bfg r u town. I won't believe your answer :P

I am :) and I wouldn't believe you if you said otherwise :p

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  On 10/30/2015 at 2:55 PM, Clovdyx said:

 

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This list looks ~okay, I guess.  If you move Cory up a bunch and replace my name with hers, it's actually incredibly close.  My major complaint with it is that it's just so cookie cutter, and we're 1,600 posts in...and she really didn't help get anybody where they are, if that makes sense.  I would guess that MOST players lists have most of the bottom eight around there in some fashion, but she obviously hasn't contributed anything to get the solve where its at.

 

Work...I fully believe that she's busy with that (bloody biostrat!).  She's not going to lie about it as town, and she's not going to sit there refusing to say anything as mafia and then chalk it up to work.  I will put 100% confidence in that statement.  The problem is similar to what Cory said to Pral - being busy at work doesn't preclude her from randing mafia.  

 

 

 

@BFG - I'm trying very hard to not conclude you're mafia, just on the fact that I know you hate rolling it and you haven't been clear town this game.  Combined with the fact you were considerably more active in the VS game, I have some concerns.  I'm not going to lie about it.  So please, please elaborate on this so I can figure you out better.  Because even though your conclusions look pretty decent, it seems more like the perpetual catch-up from TUS than the wrecking lives from HP. I would love to hear your concerns about Cory and me, specifically, but just give me something to work with?  :wub:

 

/meh I know that people are going to have issues with my activity this game, there's nothing I can do about that except play as I can from now on. In the VS game I had ~220 posts in a week and a half, 200+ of them were before last week (and if anyone tries to say I wasn't invested in that game I will hunt them done) (Brian was complaining I was absent the last few days :rolleyes:).

 

I also know that my list is consensus, I said it was when I wrote it, I've skimmed the thread once and remember very little of it, so my strong opinions are going to have to wait till after I've reread.

 

The 'concerns' I have with you and Cory essentially stem from not seeing anything that you couldn't post as mafia and enough individual posts that give me pause. I'll post what I remember but none of it's worth much at this point.

 

 

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  On 10/30/2015 at 3:17 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 10/30/2015 at 8:57 AM, BFG said:

Hallia was higher due to her early response to Laine, but I don't get her vote on Pral or reasons for the turn around. From a technical perspective I don't think I've ever seen a game where Day 1 isn't the longest, sure the fluff: content ratio decreases but the volume of posting drops. From a game perspective I don't understand why she finds it scummy or why this is what she chooses to vote on, I know later she says its fir pressure but what pressure is there from this argument.

You lost me on this one. Could you maybe reword what you're thinking here?

 

I don't have a massive sample of Hallia's recent games to work with, but as town she seems to get more defensive over her actual contributions (in Belichick I didn't have her out of null until her argument with Yates), her early response to Laine sort of approached that, so I was feeling reasonably confident. Then Cory and Pral argued and Hallia basically said that Pral saying that game volume dropped day 2/3 onwards was scummy. In no way does this make sense at all, and I don't understand why she finds it scummy.

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@Z, Shad, Cory, Clov if the rest of you want to skip or w/e

 

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i will not be around much this weekend, halloween celebrations and all.

 

Rack wasn't lying it seemed. It's good to know how he works, should we ever have another game together. I think him being an unknown to most got him killed, so it'll be interesting to see who overly pushed him, and who didn't. 

 

Sucks for Pral not to have made it to D2. He's quite unlucky lately.

 

i'll peek in every now and then, and am looking forward to start D2. It'll be game on then.     

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  On 10/31/2015 at 11:50 AM, Thane Vakarian said:

i will not be around much this weekend, halloween celebrations and all.

 

Rack wasn't lying it seemed. It's good to know how he works, should we ever have another game together. I think him being an unknown to most got him killed, so it'll be interesting to see who overly pushed him, and who didn't. 

 

Sucks for Pral not to have made it to D2. He's quite unlucky lately.

 

i'll peek in every now and then, and am looking forward to start D2. It'll be game on then.     

1. yes, obviously he wasn't lying. did you figure this out just now?

 

2. it is good, but nows not really the time to focus on his meta.

 

3. yes, if ppl knew him better he probably wouldnt have been lynched.

 

4. how does this 'itll be interesting to see who pushed him' follow from the rest of the sentence?

 

5. whats the point of this post? a sitrep for the game?

 

Bro, so awkward and hamfisted and forced and i want to kill you right now right here. it sends all the wrong signals to me and i remember your wolf game is this. just this.

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Okay, enough of me being silly.

 

Thane I sincerely don't like that last post. i mean i agree i am an idiot, but it doesn't sit well, and this feeling will probably carry onto tomorrow and i will probably vote you at least once.

 

i actually dont know what you could possible do to convince me you are town after that post. I just have a raw hatred for it.

 

bfg its good you're here now, but the fact you have nothing to say after 100 pages means you're rand a wolf. sorry it happened to you :(

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  On 10/31/2015 at 10:22 AM, BFG said:

 

  On 10/30/2015 at 2:24 PM, Clovdyx said:

 

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I meant get a town read FROM me. You asked if I was town, and after I said yes, you made a comment that essentially boiled down to you claiming town. I'm not going to say that's scummy becaus its not - its completely null. Just the way you went about it was...atypical? I don't know.

 

FEO BFG only

 

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I know you meant from you , and 'are you town', 'yup', 'me too' is a decent interpretation of that conversation, if you thought it was odd that would be fine, but you initially called it dirty, then cheap (if I recall correctly) neither of which are ways that I play (I think the worst that can be said of me is perhaps a tendency to ATE, which can be called dirty/cheap, but is a different situation than 4 posts into the game).

 

What I was trying to say was that for that comment to be taken as anything other than banter/a joke I'd have to be town reading you for real, which isn't going to happen that early in a game (regardless of my alignment) so I'm surprised that was your initial response.

 

I don't know if that makes sense?

 

 

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  On 10/31/2015 at 11:18 AM, BFG said:

 

  On 10/30/2015 at 2:55 PM, Clovdyx said:

 

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This list looks ~okay, I guess.  If you move Cory up a bunch and replace my name with hers, it's actually incredibly close.  My major complaint with it is that it's just so cookie cutter, and we're 1,600 posts in...and she really didn't help get anybody where they are, if that makes sense.  I would guess that MOST players lists have most of the bottom eight around there in some fashion, but she obviously hasn't contributed anything to get the solve where its at.

 

Work...I fully believe that she's busy with that (bloody biostrat!).  She's not going to lie about it as town, and she's not going to sit there refusing to say anything as mafia and then chalk it up to work.  I will put 100% confidence in that statement.  The problem is similar to what Cory said to Pral - being busy at work doesn't preclude her from randing mafia.  

 

 

 

@BFG - I'm trying very hard to not conclude you're mafia, just on the fact that I know you hate rolling it and you haven't been clear town this game.  Combined with the fact you were considerably more active in the VS game, I have some concerns.  I'm not going to lie about it.  So please, please elaborate on this so I can figure you out better.  Because even though your conclusions look pretty decent, it seems more like the perpetual catch-up from TUS than the wrecking lives from HP. I would love to hear your concerns about Cory and me, specifically, but just give me something to work with?  :wub:

 

/meh I know that people are going to have issues with my activity this game, there's nothing I can do about that except play as I can from now on. In the VS game I had ~220 posts in a week and a half, 200+ of them were before last week (and if anyone tries to say I wasn't invested in that game I will hunt them done) (Brian was complaining I was absent the last few days :rolleyes:).

 

I also know that my list is consensus, I said it was when I wrote it, I've skimmed the thread once and remember very little of it, so my strong opinions are going to have to wait till after I've reread.

 

The 'concerns' I have with you and Cory essentially stem from not seeing anything that you couldn't post as mafia and enough individual posts that give me pause. I'll post what I remember but none of it's worth much at this point.

 

 

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i missed this though.

 

...reevaluating... stand by

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